Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-06 Thread Skise
Lynn Kinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti: Or, more correctly, a bit doesn't produce a gait; natural talent produces gait, aided by the rider's seat and legs. Like our riding instructor on a riding weekend (strictly traditional icelandic) said: You are all using too much hand, you don't ride

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-05 Thread Janice McDonald
Trust me, going really fast is vastly over rated. I love that my Icelandic cross can gait along in a sweet easy gait that doesn't require prayer. Nancy or an energy level thats the same as a full blown gallop. Teev did a flying pace I think twice! I really do, it felt just like a rack.

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-05 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/6/5 Janice McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]: but smooth for me, on a hard clay road. Same as teev, I would have to beat him or panic him to make him go that fast if other horses werent just flying. Wellfor heaven's sake Janice. Pop a dropped noseband on him and strap it down really tight

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-05 Thread pyramid
come on, folks, this is the icehorses list. the only acceptable answer is no bit at all, the tolt is done in a sidepull. --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-05 Thread Lynn Kinsky
On Jun 5, 2008, at 5:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: come on, folks, this is the icehorses list. the only acceptable answer is no bit at all, the tolt is done in a sidepull. --vicka Or, more correctly, a bit doesn't produce a gait; natural talent produces gait, aided by the rider's seat

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-04 Thread Lorraine
She was told to use a Wonder Bit to get tolt. I used one of those one Dagur. he didn't like it at all. He likes his hackamore Lorraine

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-04 Thread Janice McDonald
I started stonewall in a wonderbit on advice of the seller. I believe that started him out on his hyped up craziness I now have to work so hard to contain. I am short on my posts and lurking from my phone you guys! no internet at work! gives you guys a break from me ha! janice -- even good

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-04 Thread Judy Ryder
I do have that right don't I? Rack tolt are the same gait? Yes, tolt and rack are the same gait. Probably most of our Icelandic Horses are not tolting (racking) on the trails unless we are really going fast. It's probably a saddle rack. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-04 Thread Nancy Sturm
Probably most of our Icelandic Horses are not tolting (racking) on the trails unless we are really going fast. It's probably a saddle rack. Trust me, going really fast is vastly over rated. I love that my Icelandic cross can gait along in a sweet easy gait that doesn't require prayer.

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-03 Thread Nancy Sturm
That she's worrying about the wrong end of the horse... Way to go Wanda That's the best answer I've heard ever. I get sick of the concept that a gaited horse needs a special (read more severe) bit. Hunter, who is a racking fool, goes bitless, but also racked just as well in a French link

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-03 Thread Mic Rushen
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:39:16 -0700, you wrote: A lady wrote to me this morning asking which bit to use to get tolt. What would you tell her? Whatever bit the horse is comfortable being ridden in, and you as a rider are happy using - or no bit at all, if that works for you and the horse. Mic

[IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-03 Thread Judy Ryder
A lady wrote to me this morning asking which bit to use to get tolt. What would you tell her? Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-03 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/6/3 Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A lady wrote to me this morning asking which bit to use to get tolt. What would you tell her? That she's worrying about the wrong end of the horse... Wanda -- Thoughts become things...

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-03 Thread Renee Martin
2008/6/3 Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A lady wrote to me this morning asking which bit to use to get tolt. What would you tell her? To get her thinking about this, I'd probably start out by asking her if she needs different bits to get walk, trot, and canter. Hopefully, she'll say no. :

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-03 Thread Judy Ryder
Finally, I'd ask why she thought she would need a special bit. . (because I'd be curious where THAT notion came from!) She was told to use a Wonder Bit to get tolt. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-03 Thread Janice McDonald
She was told to use a Wonder Bit to get tolt. yep. cranks that head up til his ears are in your face. been there. done it. and he gaits great without it. it made him pace. janice

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-03 Thread Renee Martin
where THAT notion came from!) She was told to use a Wonder Bit to get tolt. Oy. If *they* aren't telling people to nail on gait, they are advising to strap it on in some fashion. It just never ends. There's always newbies who believe. Sigh. -- Renee M. in Michigan

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-03 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/6/3 Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: She was told to use a Wonder Bit to get tolt. Is that that strange combo noseband thing with more hardware on it than the kitchen sink? Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
where THAT notion came from!) She was told to use a Wonder Bit to get tolt. Oy. If *they* aren't telling people to nail on gait, they are advising to strap it on in some fashion. It just never ends. There's always newbies who believe. Sigh. -- Renee M. in Michigan There are also those

Re: [IceHorses] What bit, what bit? What is going on....????

2008-02-12 Thread Judy Ryder
trail that leads down to a waterhole with lots of rocks that we cross sometimes. Everytime we get near it, he decides he is going down and through and home. I expected it Saturday and he faked me out and nearly passed the spot and turned a perfect L to he left with his next and flipped is

RE: [IceHorses] What bit

2008-02-12 Thread Karen Thomas
. The reason I believe the Bob Marshall will be the right saddle is that it is treeless and is supposed to conform to his body and make him feel like he is being ridden bareback. Whatever I can do to make him and I both as comfortable as possible is my goal. You would think he would be sore,

[IceHorses] What bit

2008-02-12 Thread Judy Fiedler
Wow, I typed a reply and it went to never, never land. So if you see two posts, one is incomplete. Sorry I really appreciate all the feedback. I don't think Dakota is barn sour because it is only at that one place he likes to turn and go. He is fine at all the locations we have come and

Re: [IceHorses] What bit

2008-02-12 Thread Janice McDonald
Judy, When I ride my horses on my property, they know where the paddock is. And there are a couple of them that will make a sudden try to see if I will let them go back. They never do this off on a trail ride we have hauled to. One of them does it in the same exact spot every time, like

Re: [IceHorses] What bit, what bit? What is going on....????

2008-02-11 Thread Renee Martin
Hi Judy, I'm trying to get Dakota straighten out with the right saddle, the right bit, etc. . . . However, I use a kimberwick on him right now. It is hard to get him to stop sometimes. He likes to bolt or just plain ignore you. . . . I don't want to go severe because he really is a good

Re: [IceHorses] What bit, what bit? What is going on....????

2008-02-11 Thread Pat Grimmer
What kind of saddle are you currently riding him with treed or treeless? and what makes you think that the Bob Marshall saddle will make things better? Pat G., in MN

Re: [IceHorses] What bit, what bit? What is going on....????

2008-02-11 Thread Wanda Lauscher
Hello Judy, Renee gave you some good advice. Ride where you're safe. When you have your saddle issues settled, take some lessons on him, and get some communication going before you take him out on the trail. I had the same type of issues with my old Hreggur. He managed to bolt on me. But he