Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as reference material

2000-09-29 Thread Masataka Ohta
Eliot; I would accept your interpretation if you can go to a major search engine, like Yahoo or Altavista, and find me in a brief period of time ANY version of Mike O'Dell's 8+8 proposal. You should really check archive of a big internet mailing list (does someone know where it is archived?)

VPN definition (Re: can vpn's extended to mobility)

2000-09-29 Thread Harald Alvestrand
At 09:42 26/09/2000 -0700, Paul Hoffman / VPNC wrote: At 4:09 AM +0200 9/24/00, Fred Baker wrote: A VPN is, by my definition, any case where one overlays the global Internet with another private Internet using tunneling. Tunneling procedures today include MPLS, IPSEC, IP/IP, GRE/IP, and

Re: Need to preserve Internet Drafts

2000-09-29 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
Grenville, I don't mind that you don't find anything valid in my little bit of our exchange, that was the point -- WGs, IESG, inexpiry, etc., aren't the exhaustive sources of "validity". Incidently, the "isn't revised, and falls into the expired (and hence not-valid) state" applies to both the

WHY SO MUCH SMART MONEY IS SO HIGH ON READ-RITE !

2000-09-29 Thread HotStock-
Link to article below: http://www.thestreet.com/comment/herbonthestreet/1096812.html Commentary: Herb on TheStreet.com Why So Much Smart Money Is So High on Read-Rite By Herb Greenberg Senior Columnist 9/26/00

Re: Topic drift Re: An Internet Draft as reference material

2000-09-29 Thread Eliot Lear
John, Let's assume that Mike O'Dell never submits his idea as an RFC. What then? It's not just Mike O'Dell who loses. Perhaps he doesn't lose at all, since he'll be able to reproduce what he wrote from his personal archives. So while you may argue what's morally correct (and others might