Re: Acknowledgements section in a RFC (Was: Last Call: 'Matching of Language Tags' to BCP (draft-ietf-ltru-matching)

2006-06-09 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: Disclaimer: IANAL, and this message is not intended as legal advice. Please, read RFC3979 for yourself, and if you have concerns as to what your obligations are or what you can get away with, consult a lawyer. On Wednesday, June 07, 2006 02:22:06 PM -0400 Gray, Eric

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-iab-rfc-editor-00.txt

2006-06-09 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Eliot Lear wrote: Brian E Carpenter wrote: Although I'm an IAB member, I'd rather make my one comment on this draft in public. I think it misses one point that should be mentioned. The easiest way to explain it is to suggest new text: 4.4. Avoiding interference between publication streams

Re: RFC Author Count and IPR

2006-06-09 Thread todd glassey
Unfortunately the genesis of some IP is not that easily dealt with - In fact EACH and EVERY contributor must be named, since their rights to the core genesis are something that are either defined in an agreement or somethign for resolution before a trier of fact in some form. Todd - Original

Re: Best practice for data encoding?

2006-06-09 Thread Brian E Carpenter
So how about concluding that there is no single right answer to Iljitsch's question, but there may be scope for defining considerations for the choice of data encoding? Brian ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: IETF Sites Support IPv6

2006-06-09 Thread Ray Pelletier
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: Ray, On 6-jun-2006, at 16:31, Ray Pelletier wrote: I am pleased to report this 6th day of June 2006 that IETF FTP, Mail Web support IPv6. I was wondering: would it be possible to publish statistics about IPv4 vs IPv6 traffic for these services? I have

icalendar feeds for network/tech meeting calendar

2006-06-09 Thread Joe Abley
This is not especially on-topic here, but since (a) there are probably more people here who have an interest in debugging/reviewing RFC 2445 documents than anywhere else and (b) there are probably more people here for whom a maintained calendar of meetings is a wildly useful thing, I

Re: Comments on draft-iab-rfc-editor: IETF control

2006-06-09 Thread Michael StJohns
Brian - In absolute seriousness, I could publish an ID/RFC or other document that says that I'm the king of the Internet - doesn't make it so. These are the facts as I understand them. 1) The RFC Series has always been at ISI, originally under Jon Postel the RFC Editor, but more recently

Re: Comments on draft-iab-rfc-editor: IETF control

2006-06-09 Thread Eliot Lear
Mike, Are you suggesting that the ISOC pull RFC Editor funding and invest in another series where the community has more say? Otherwise one person can override the will of the community, as Jon did on more than one occasion. I don't think we want that any more. I certainly don't. Eliot

Re: Comments on draft-iab-rfc-editor: IETF control

2006-06-09 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Eliot Lear wrote: Mike, Are you suggesting that the ISOC pull RFC Editor funding and invest in another series where the community has more say? Otherwise one person can override the will of the community, as Jon did on more than one occasion. I don't think we want that

Re: Comments on draft-iab-rfc-editor: IETF control

2006-06-09 Thread Leslie Daigle
Mike, I am not going to engage in a public debate about what constitutes the complete set of facts here: there is no dispute (afaict) that the RFC Editor series started before the IETF, or that it has had a broader mandate than IETF standards. The IAB document is consistent with the

Re: Comments on draft-iab-rfc-editor: IETF control

2006-06-09 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Leslie Daigle wrote: Mike, I am not going to engage in a public debate about what constitutes the complete set of facts here: there is no dispute (afaict) that the RFC Editor series started before the IETF, or that it has had a broader mandate than IETF standards. What

Re: Comments on draft-iab-rfc-editor: IETF control

2006-06-09 Thread Michael StJohns
At 02:31 PM 6/9/2006, Eliot Lear wrote: Mike, Are you suggesting that the ISOC pull RFC Editor funding and invest in another series where the community has more say? Otherwise one person can override the will of the community, as Jon did on more than one occasion. I don't think we want that

Re: Comments on draft-iab-rfc-editor: IETF control

2006-06-09 Thread Michael StJohns
At 02:48 PM 6/9/2006, william(at)elan.net wrote: On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Eliot Lear wrote: Mike, Are you suggesting that the ISOC pull RFC Editor funding and invest in another series where the community has more say? Otherwise one person can override the will of the community, as Jon did on

Re: Comments on draft-iab-rfc-editor: IETF control

2006-06-09 Thread Michael StJohns
At 03:04 PM 6/9/2006, Leslie Daigle wrote: Mike, I am not going to engage in a public debate about what constitutes the complete set of facts here: I love it when discussions start out with throw away the facts. The IAB document is consistent with the operational facts that have governed

Re: Comments on draft-iab-rfc-editor: IETF control

2006-06-09 Thread Leslie Daigle
Mike, Michael StJohns wrote: At 03:04 PM 6/9/2006, Leslie Daigle wrote: Mike, I am not going to engage in a public debate about what constitutes the complete set of facts here: I love it when discussions start out with throw away the facts. That's a mischaracterization of what I said,

Re: Comments on draft-iab-rfc-editor: IETF control

2006-06-09 Thread Michael StJohns
At 04:09 PM 6/9/2006, Leslie Daigle wrote: Mike, Michael StJohns wrote: At 03:04 PM 6/9/2006, Leslie Daigle wrote: Mike, I am not going to engage in a public debate about what constitutes the complete set of facts here: I love it when discussions start out with throw away the facts.

Re: Comments on draft-iab-rfc-editor: IETF control

2006-06-09 Thread Bob Braden
* * I think there is a middle ground that can exist - a contract between * IAOC representing IETF and ISI representing RFC Editor where RFC Editor * agrees to publish documents submitted to it by IETF (i.e. they'll not * be able to say no to IETF request to publish document even if RFC

Last Call Comments: 'A Process Experiment in Normative Reference Handling' to Experimental RFC (draft-klensin-norm-ref)

2006-06-09 Thread Kurt D. Zeilenga
I do not support approval of this experiment. I opine that most of the publication delay is due to WG/author choice, not the downref rule. I also offer an alternative cure which keeps in place the downref rule in published RFCs. If a WG or individual is pursuing publication of a Standard Track

RFC 4555 on IKEv2 Mobility and Multihoming Protocol (MOBIKE)

2006-06-09 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4555 Title: IKEv2 Mobility and Multihoming Protocol (MOBIKE) Author: P. Eronen Status: Standards Track Date: June 2006