Re: Pointing to IANA registries

2010-04-21 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Ned Freed quotes Jari Arkko: (That being said, I wonder if some tool magic would display these references as pointers, just as already happens for normal references.) 1925, 6a. This wierd resistance to including useful information in our documents may have made some small amount of sense in

Re: Pointing to IANA registries

2010-04-21 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
The IETF has in fact already got a URN defined for its documents, it is just not a locatable identifier at the current time. I used the URN form of the documents in XKMS to specify the protocol that a key is being requested for use with. That is one case where you want to have a fixed identifier

Review of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-p2mp-extensions-10.txt

2010-04-21 Thread Russ Mundy
I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just

Re: Pointing to IANA registries

2010-04-21 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:07 PM, ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote: This wierd resistance to including useful information in our documents may have made some small amount of sense in the past when things were less clear. It is completely silly and totally counterproductive now. The weird

Last Call results for draft-lawrence-sipforum-user-agent-config

2010-04-21 Thread Scott Lawrence
The IETF Last Call draft-lawrence-sipforum-user-agent-config ended yesterday (it began 2010-03-23). Abstract: This document defines procedures for how a SIP User Agent should locate, retrieve, and maintain current configuration information from a Configuration Service. This document

Re: Pointing to IANA registries

2010-04-21 Thread Kim Davies
Hi all, A few comments from the perspective of IANA staff maintaining the website infrastructure: a) This is a timely discussion as we have been discussing this very issue internally. The thought was coming up with better guidance on referencing IANA registries in such a way the provides

Re: Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext (Additional Random

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Rex
The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Additional Random Extension to TLS ' draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext-01.txt as a Proposed Standard I'm somewhat confused to see a Last Call for this proposal.

Re: Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext (Additional Random

2010-04-21 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 12:05 AM +0200 4/22/10, Martin Rex wrote: The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Additional Random Extension to TLS ' draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext-01.txt as a Proposed Standard I'm somewhat

Re: Pointing to IANA registries

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Rex
Julian Reschke wrote: I was recently pointed at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5226#section-4.2: All such URLs, however, will be removed from the RFC prior to final publication. I have to say that I think

Re: Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext (Additional Random

2010-04-21 Thread Simon Josefsson
Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org writes: At 12:05 AM +0200 4/22/10, Martin Rex wrote: The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Additional Random Extension to TLS ' draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext-01.txt

Re: Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Rex
Paul Hoffman wrote: At 12:05 AM +0200 4/22/10, Martin Rex wrote: The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Additional Random Extension to TLS ' draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext-01.txt as a Proposed

Re: Last Call: draft-ogud-iana-protocol-maintenance-words (Definitions for expressing standards requirements in IANA registries.) to BCP

2010-04-21 Thread Brian E Carpenter
I see that this (still the same version) is On agenda of 2010-05-06 IESG telechat, and I must say I'm a little surprised, since I counted seven clear objections to the document and no strong supporting comments. Also, IANA said IANA does not understand the implications of the IANA Actions

another document categorization suggestion

2010-04-21 Thread james woodyatt
everyone-- After just now finding the root cause of yet another stupid interoperability problem to be an interaction between a client not choosing a sufficiently unique host/session identifier and a server being overly clever about using said identifiers for purposes other than intended in the

Re: another document categorization suggestion

2010-04-21 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 04/21/2010 05:55 PM, james woodyatt wrote: everyone-- After just now finding the root cause of yet another stupid interoperability problem to be an interaction between a client not choosing a sufficiently unique host/session identifier and a server being overly clever about using said

Re: Pointing to IANA registries

2010-04-21 Thread Mark Nottingham
For the issues around formats, have you considered using content negotiation? http://www.apps.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2616.html#sec-12.1 WRT XHTML, it's a candidate for deprecation for a different reason; the W3C is moving away from XHTML as part of the HTML5 effort. Current fashion for this type of

Re: another document categorization suggestion

2010-04-21 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 22 Apr 2010, at 01:55, james woodyatt wrote: After just now finding the root cause of yet another stupid interoperability problem to be an interaction between a client not choosing a sufficiently unique host/session identifier and a server being overly clever about using said identifiers

RE: another document categorization suggestion

2010-04-21 Thread Yoav Nir
How about a Real World Deployment wiki page linked from each RFC, where implementers can insert comments like Don't do like vendor xxx - don't always set the nonce to zero. Hopefully vendor xxx fixes it in the next release, and changes the page to read Don't do like vendor xxx did prior to

Last Call: draft-sheffer-emu-eap-eke (An EAP Authentication Method Based on the EKE Protocol) to Informational RFC

2010-04-21 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'An EAP Authentication Method Based on the EKE Protocol ' draft-sheffer-emu-eap-eke-06.txt as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final

Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext (Additional Random Extension to TLS) to Proposed Standard

2010-04-21 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Additional Random Extension to TLS ' draft-hoffman-tls-additional-random-ext-01.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments

Last Call: draft-hoffman-tls-master-secret-input (Additional Master Secret Inputs for TLS) to Proposed Standard

2010-04-21 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Additional Master Secret Inputs for TLS ' draft-hoffman-tls-master-secret-input-01.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final