windows and the room is IPv6 only...), or who points their
/etc/resolv.conf to their own name server, will not really be affected.
I do not suggest we close port 53 :-)
I am in favour (and hope to be there).
I would also volunteer to help set it up.
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] ON HUMILITY: to err is human.
Olaf M. Kolkman wrote:
Although IANA is in a unique position that it has an established
relation with the TLD operators and the number registries for the
domains under in-addr.arpa, it is not the only party that could offer
How much of the IAB's concern is that it's under .arpa, and how muc
Ted Hardie wrote:
The people that are fighting having ULA-C are the same ones that don't want
PI, and they are trying to force ULA-C == PI so they can turn that argument
around and say 'we told you PI was a bad idea' when there is no way to
filter out what would have been ULA-C. If you really bel
Jeff McAdams wrote:
Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Sam Weiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> It is remarkably easy to get involved with the ARIN public policy
> procecss and submit a proposal
Yes, and they listen so well! Just like they listened to the people telling
them that PI "addresses
Jari Arkko wrote:
Sure. But I understood Michael has nothing now, so from his
point of view its a question of getting either PI from ARIN or
PA from his provider.
No, it's PI from ARIN, or PA from *some* provider.
My immediate need is for space which is unique, and has whois and reverse
m
Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino wrote:
Let me see if I understand this. Without PI, the enterprises say
no, and with
PI, the ISP's say no. Got it.
I believe that a more constructive assessment is that enterprises are
unwilling to pay non-trivial costs to renumber, and ISPs are
unwilling to pay non
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]Bear: "Me, I'm just the shape of a bear." | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Li
tw)
I am very disappointed. I don't expect anyone to go and fix ARIN.
I am simply posting to express myself.
I also have heard that RIPE isn't so non-sensical.
It looks like I will use 6to4 to form my own /48.
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]Bear: "Me, I'm just the shape of a bear
, the only way I can guess what
you said was because I already know who you are.
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]Bear: "Me, I'm just the shape of a bear." | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.s
Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
And think of the Security Considerations section. (And do we need IANA
considerations, too?)
For this subject, there is absolutely no way to avoid an
internationalization considerations section - and of course the
scalability considerations section needs to be
(Naturally, we understand that there may be ietf-dads,and ietf-spouses...)
My wife (Meaghan), who is coming to IETF68 in Prague wants to know
if there will be other non-participating parents/spouses in Prague.
To quote her: "If you had told me that so-and-so was going to be in San Diego,
then yea
% using SSH.
The second one is "UDP" --- and I'd be curious to know if there are
systems using UDP-encap even when they have a public IP. Or, as my
colleagued suggested: it's Skype/SIP/etc.
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]Bear: "Me, I'm just the shape of a bear." |
he de-facto "bar" is.
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] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[
] panic("Just anothe
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Has jabber moved from ietf.xmpp.org?
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] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http
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Can we get the hotel to turn it's access points off in the Salons?
Is there a NOC email?
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] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON
t many would also like to know "US vs non-US", given the
difficulties of getting in/out of that country.
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] Michael Richardson Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON | firewalls [
] mcr @ xelerance.com Now doing IPsec training, see |net archite
ng locations are;
Canada
Europe
South America
1st-world Pacific Rim: Japan/Australia/etc.
US
other-harder-to-get-places
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] Michael Richardson Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON | firewalls [
] mcr @ xelerance.com Now doing IPsec training
jan spam.
That is because users can not "conveniently" turn off the extension ->
application mapping.
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] Michael Richardson Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON | firewalls [
] mcr @ xelerance.com Now doing IPsec training, see |net architect[
]
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:53:15 -0400
From: "David Fewer [c]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: David Fewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Media Release - Digital Security Coalition [u]
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Digital Security Coali
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So, I noticed that RFC4003 was issued.
Wow, so we passed the 4000 mark.
I went to find out what rfc4000 was.
Aha... not yet issued.
That's kind of anti-climatic. Oh well.
Maybe 4096 will be more fun :-)
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Is there a document that explains how 169.254/16 is used?
And if so, how come RFC3330 does not reference it?
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] Michael Richardson Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON | firewalls [
] mcr @ xelerance.com Now doing IPsec training, see
est 6to4 router. The irony is that, given sparse IPv6
network, 6to4 addresses most closely follow the topology, since they
follow the IPv4 network.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net a
; iesg, iab, etc...). And, as Harald notes, their support needs
Carl> are fairly minor. So, I lumped their funding needs in the
Carl> "misc." category of the ietf financials.
I strongly agree with this.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | fir
more there.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Linux
tend IETF.
Of course, I might never meet the RG people that don't attend
IETF. If so, who are they?
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://w
MTP when sending their e-mails. It
Franck> seems they do use ESMTP to receive e-mails...
Why the developing world would want to keep all their emails at the
far side of a slow pipe is beyond me. Build local mail servers/systems.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine.
N HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, security guy&q
rve as
Bill> a barrier to adoption, we should not delay work on a standard
Bill> until the IPR claim is definitively proven bogus in the
Bill> courts.
I don't think that the question was ever properly asked.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser"
r or not this causes a loophole in the -00 "no placeholder"
rule, or whether or not we perhaps WANT this to be an official loophole,
I don't know.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance C
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> "Eric" == Eric S Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> isomorphic > to the "commercial/noncommercial" problem. The
>> really nasty cases are > near service libraries.
>>
>> Maybe you should spell this out.
>>
>> For example, ser
t changing the rules the closest we can get is two
scott> weeks
Right, we want to have time to read the documents, and I think two
weeks is fair.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corp
late.
Why do we keep scheduling summer IETF on the first week of August.
That's the only decent week of weather in most of Canada! mid-July is a
much better time in my opinion.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Ri
train from Toronto via NYC on Sunday, November
7th. I have a 20 minute allocation to change changes at Penn station,
which I fear that Amtrak won't make. And I am trying to catch the last
train that night to DC. I fear that I'll be sitting in Penn station all
night reading drafts... An
y to embrace and extend Internet standards?
That's a biased question.
You use the word "company"
As such, you imply a whole set of things that do not work out
correctly in the open source world.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | f
location is TBD, has the continent and/or country
been determined yet? Travel budget allocators want to know.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL
m anytime, I'm not sure that I see the point in expending more
energy.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.
s up simply went away. And SSH is a client-server
Harald> protocol.
So, you were happier with less NAT.
See, I knew that making you happier behind the NAT was the wrong solution.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Ri
7;t be there. That's tough for them.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[
] panic(&q
;s worth saying.)
I don't think we need a working group to say this.
I think that the IAB could write a document much easier that said
that.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation,
r hotels
on it, and enough conference space, but we'd be slightly split up.
There is a group that is trying to host fall-NANOG/ARIN 2005 in Ottawa.
That's about half the size of IETF, but otherwise has similar
requirements.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" -
s fill
up early. (Me, I like Minneapolis just fine. I do wish to have fewer
meetings in the US)
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off restrictions| firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.o
s fill
up early. (Me, I like Minneapolis just fine. I do wish to have fewer
meetings in the US)
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off restrictions| firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.o
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Jordi, from the consultant-report: (UPCASE mine)
While the day-to-day operational aspects of meetings are extremely
well coordinated, long-range planning for IETF meetings is almost
non-existent. For example, by IETF60 in August, 2004, planning for
ance for setup purposes.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[
] panic("Just ano
h> been selected - up to date numbers for hotel rooms,
Iljitsch> meeting rooms, terminal room and so on
I second this.
I also welcome the information that Vancouver was booked. That's
important to understand.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson
point is that the hotel bar provides the
*defacto* point to have ad-hoc meetings. I.e. ones where two people just
bump into each other and start chatting.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporatio
My wife isn't happy that I can go three weeks and wear only conference
T-shirts. Or that I have more cloths than her. I'm happy that they all
still fit.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance C
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kerne
se
right, based upon my experience with our local transit company.)
I'm not in the loop on the problem-statement stuff, having missed two
IETFs, and been busy. But that's where some of the answers need to come
from.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The
?
no? right. Internet, not Internet Explorer. The thing that
Nortel invented."
Don't expect any help from the Canadian federal government. Too
clueless, sorry. On the other hand, do not expect any hinderance
either.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser&qu
should consider very seriously
JORDI> skipping event in US.
What he said.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ot
at, so a large random number can be used
>> instead of a short registered number. In other cases, like name
>> resolution, that may require a technical break-through. But we
>> should definitely think about it!
I think that reducing the number of IANA registries sho
stand the protocols. This can't be easily reversed.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca
abels without much mind share as long as there documents
Donald> are also RFCs. The only hope to get people to REALLY switch
Donald> to using these new disgnations in general is to make those
Donald> documents NOT be RFCs.
I concur.
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*> Then requests for an RFC should _never_ redirect to a STD (which was
*> where I was going, BTW), but it's OK for the STD to redirect to the
*> current RFC (or set thereof, if multiples).
I think that it is reasonable that there be a URL that
Bob> No, it is STDs that have static meaning; RFCs can change.
This statement confuses me.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
n be changed to point at
the new RFC that defined STD005.
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] "Elmo went to the wrong fundraiser" - The Simpson | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mc
the STD. The specific version would be available via another URL (such
as the /rfc/rfc.txt that we have now).
The idea was that it would always refer to the most recent one.
But, if we have multiple documents as part of STD-5, then that won't
work at all.
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] "Elmo wen
s).
It might be worth doing this. Yes, some thought is necessary.
One thing to consider, is having a web server which, when asked for:
http://www.ietf.org/ref/rfc0791.txt
redirects to:
http://www.ietf.org/std/std005.txt
The point being to change people's habits a little
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>>>>> "Michael" == Michael Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Michael> http://www.ietf.org/std/std0051.txt
Michael> be made that can refer to the STD series of documents?
Several pointed me to
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May I suggest that a URL like:
http://www.ietf.org/std/std0051.txt
be made that can refer to the STD series of documents?
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] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. [
] Michael Richardson
to secure the channel between sender and receiver (RMX, LMAP, SPF,
Dave> etc.).
Why are these mutually exclusive?
Can't we do both?
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON
someone reviewed how the IETF worked at the conference.
A lot of software developers would benefit from understanding more.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTE
interface is much easier to
navigate.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[
] panic("Just an
r TCP(one TCP connection per mount)
2) SMTP (multiple users' transactions per session)
3) persistent HTTP from a www proxy.
(I'm not really sure if this is really done)
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine.
tain patents... but ITU does!
I wish that was true.
It is not.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device dri
me IBSS systems without something like "hostap"
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[
roper name for new "ad-hoc" mode) won't use the keys as well?
Further, as was said, it does nothing against malicious rogue APs?
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson,Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON|ne
k> deploy it...
Franck> Is there something wrong in the WiFi protocol that needs fixing?
Yes, despite all of 802.11i, the beacons are not authenticated.
] Collecting stories about my dad: http://www.sandelman.ca/cjr/ | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottaw
u move.
We need
1) whitelists and blacklists
2) a way to authenticate the APs
] Collecting stories about my dad: http://www.sandelman.ca/cjr/ | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |de
No, you are just sitting in the wrong part of the room.
But, it is much better than it was at SAAG.
] Collecting stories about my dad: http://www.sandelman.ca/cjr/ | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sand
erstand, and each seems to enclose
the next.
Harald> - "Everything that can seriously impact the Internet is
Harald> appropriate for IETF standardization".
This is very much more nebulous, because "seriously impact" is a question
of very open judgement.
]
nge is unilateral.
Personally, I am considering not renewing any .com or .net that I have.
] Out and about in Ottawa.hmmm... beer.| firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa
.
I find this a bit dis-tasteful.
] Out and about in Ottawa.hmmm... beer.| firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another D
about in Ottawa.hmmm... beer.| firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another Debian/notebook using, kernel hacking, securit
y, maybe in some browsers.
However, once the XML is there, you can be assured that someone will
run xml2rfc -> HTML on everything and make it available. No reason for the
secretariat to burn disk space there :-)
] Out and about in Ottawa.hmmm... beer.| firewalls [
]
I was downtown Ottawa on the Friday, eating at a restaurant that had power,
since we had none at home. (at least, when we arrived they had power...)
What I noticed is that my GSM (Fido/Microcell) had very poor reception,
and I frequently didn't get a signal. My conclusion - they don't have all
of
Last IETF in Minneapolis, I couldn't call my home.
Why? new exchange in Ottawa. 715. Minneapolis thinks that is an area
code... Wisconsin. No operator could understand this concept or problem, and
even 1800 calling card access seemed screwed. I SMS'ed or IRC'ed my wife
to say I was going to my roo
,
Lyndon> *that* just gave several people heart attacks ;-)
] Out and about in Ottawa.hmmm... beer.| firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
]
hmmm... beer. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another Debian/notebook using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [
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] panic("Just another Debian/notebook using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [
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, but we can't find them, so we have to make
new XML biblio files.
>> 3) More uniformity in, e.g. references
IMC> In what way is that helpful? Are there kinds of references commonly
IMC> used now that don't work well?
It makes referencing documents very easy.
] Ou
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> "Rosen" == Rosen, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Rosen> I therefore have a modest proposal:
Rosen> Allow the submission of an xml file meeting the requirements of
Rosen> RFC2629
Rosen> along with the text file (and optional ps file) fo
| firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another Debian/notebook using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [
here all the food is, and the terminal room
cables are pre-cut.
] Out and about in Ottawa.hmmm... beer.| firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
] pani
> I do want to echo Randy Bush and others with thanks to the host
Michael> for an excellent wireless system and network. I didn't have to
Yes... it just worked. Thank you to Telekom Austria.
] At IETF57 in Wien, Austria | firewalls [
] Michae
ed to help the hosts do the reverse map for the rest, but
it wasn't possible to get the right people there on Saturday/Sunday.
] At IETF57 in Wien, Austria | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
tra Sensory Perception) to transfer data "securely",
with the actual packet being just spare garbage that is transmitted to make
it not too obvious that we are violating causality.
It isn't clear that if you have TCP (as described above) that actually need
more security than that
At IETF57 in Wien, Austria | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
] printk("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, security guy
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Alcatel.com does not have a functional email system. It believes that
all domains must have full NS-record delegations. I.e. that my domain
"sandelman.ottawa.on.ca" must be a delegation from "ottawa.on.ca",
rather than from "ca". (The .CA namespace has a single
hink that
this is the main argument for them), but firewall vendors have screwed that
up so badly, that this is now better done by dedicated IDS.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architec
protocol still exists to do it.
Can we change this in IPv6? Maybe.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device dri
27;m happier in less expensive
hotels. But those ones do not have the conference space.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |dev
Type Bits/KeyIDDate User ID
pub 1024/E99DD5FD 2001/05/06 Michael Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Michael Richardson (General Purpose Key 2002) <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]>
Michael Richardson (General Purpose Key 2
all> i'll ask the ops guys to install an A RR, but you should be
Marshall> able to join
Thank you.
*gabber* does not understand the SRV construct is seems.
Also, with gabber, it seems that all the userids' that I've made up
are in use already.
] ON HUMILI
f the conference rooms will be hosted on
Marshall> conference.ietf.jabber.com
This name is still not in DNS... Is it still planned?
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON
uite frequently..)
Primary systems were up Saturday, and just prior to being duplicated onto
backup systems, the primaries 'blew up'.
At 13:30, things are mostly back to normal.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sa
ce in one building.
Mind you, there are some empty Nortel buildings that seat 1500!
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca
up, then we'd get more done.
I am of the opinion that the IETF needs far more organized time for
"running code" before "rough consensus" is tested for.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Softwa
not in the USA, so I can't speak about it.
I think that legislating that email is private doesn't help make it so.
Deploying PGP or S/MIME widely, and educating people about its use would be
more effective.
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