Re: NomCom 2012-2013: Third Call for Volunteers

2012-08-02 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
Probably nothing can be perfect when defining affiliation, but I think some definition can help reducing hidden conflict of interests. Here is an example in other standards body: http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliation.html Yoshihiro Ohba (2012/08/02 14:37), Samuel Weiler wrote: On Thu, 2

Re: NomCom 2012-2013: Third Call for Volunteers

2012-08-01 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
What is the exact definition of affiliation in IETF? If a consultant who runs his/her own consulting company X is paid by his/her customer company Y for his/her IETF activities including NOMCOM activity, then what is his/her affiliation? Yoshihiro Ohba (2012/08/02 11:13), Patrik Fältström

Re: TSVDIR Review for draft-ohba-pana-relay-03

2011-06-06 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
works. Even when IPsec is used between a PRE and a PAA, I think DHCP-ed address for IP2b works as long as IKEv2 identity for the PRE is not based on IP address. Kind Regards, Yoshihiro Ohba Regards, -- Yoshifumi Nishida nish...@sfc.wide.ad.jp

Re: IETF Last Call on Walled Garden Standard for the Internet

2008-03-25 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
Hi Pasi, Thanks for your response. On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:04:00AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yoshihiro Ohba wrote: I think Vidya has a good point. My opinion is that, bootstrapping protocols from long-term credentials used for network access authentication is not such a bad

Re: [HOKEY] EMSK key hierarchy and the DSRK

2008-03-21 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
this situation. Yoshihiro Ohba On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 09:45:47AM -0700, Dan Harkins wrote: Hello, My apologies for being obtuse. This Mother of All Root Keys I've been describing is what the EMSK Key Hierarchy calls the DSRK. The HOKEY key that the ERP/ERX draft uses can

Re: IETF Last Call on Walled Garden Standard for the Internet

2008-03-19 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
-panel-YoshiroOhba.pdf Yoshihiro Ohba On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 09:39:04PM -0700, Narayanan, Vidya wrote: -Original Message- From: Lakshminath Dondeti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 7:58 PM To: Harald Tveit Alvestrand Cc: Narayanan, Vidya; ietf@ietf.org

Re: [HOKEY] Last Call: draft-ietf-hokey-erx (EAP Extensions for EAP Re-authentication Protocol (ERP)) to Proposed Standard

2008-01-31 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
requests, I would expect significant modifications to EAP state machines described in RFC 4137, and such modifications should be described in ERP document. Yoshihiro Ohba ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: [HOKEY] Last Call: draft-ietf-hokey-erx (EAP Extensions for EAP Re-authentication Protocol (ERP)) to Proposed Standard

2008-01-31 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
attention to re-auth DoS attack issue during WG-level review, not to lock-step issue.) Best Regards, Yoshihiro Ohba On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 08:09:54AM -0800, Lakshminath Dondeti wrote: On 1/31/2008 6:23 AM, Yoshihiro Ohba wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 10:53:25PM -0800, Lakshminath Dondeti wrote

Re: comments on draft-houseley-aaa-key-mgmt-07.txt

2007-02-19 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
the requirement itself. Yoshihiro Ohba ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: comments on draft-houseley-aaa-key-mgmt-07.txt

2007-02-18 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
, Yoshihiro Ohba Regards, Vidya -Original Message- From: Lakshminath Dondeti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:36 AM To: Sam Hartman Cc: Narayanan, Vidya; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dan Harkins; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: comments on draft-houseley

Re: [FW: Re: IETF last call on draft-barany-eap-gee-04.txt]

2007-01-05 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
an additional functionality to run parallel EAP conversations, which is not a required functionality for EAP lower layer. - From protocol layering point of view, GEE is part of EAP lower layer in terms of RFC 3748. Hope this helps, Yoshihiro Ohba On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 06:15:40PM -0800, Lakshminath Dondeti

[FW: Re: IETF last call on draft-barany-eap-gee-04.txt]

2007-01-04 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
Let me forward my response with reducing quotes since it got bounced. - Forwarded message from Yoshihiro Ohba [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Yoshihiro Ohba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: IETF last call on draft-barany-eap-gee-04.txt To: Joseph Salowey (jsalowey) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc

Re: IETF last call on draft-barany-eap-gee-04.txt

2007-01-02 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
if the lower layer of GEE negotiates the use of GEE between the peer and authenticator. Yoshihiro Ohba Also, this is not quite the same as pre-authentication, since GEE is to allow multiple authentications for different purposes (e.g., device and user; specific types of accesses, say, IPv4 and IPv6, etc

Re: [FW: Re: [eap] Please review -- IETF Last Call ondraft-barany-eap-gee-04.txt]

2006-12-29 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
that ideally 3GPP2 should take the ownership of the GEE format and its processing rule within their specification unless there is a particular situation that prevents 3GPP2 from doing that. Regards, Yoshihiro Ohba On Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 03:37:03PM +0200, Jari Arkko wrote: Yoshihiro, If we agree

Re: IETF last call on draft-barany-eap-gee-04.txt

2006-12-29 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
to distinguish multiple parallel EAP conversations (we are not talking about multiple types of conversations, but instead multiple conversations). The draft clearly talks about multiple types of authentications. Yoshihiro Ohba ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf

Re: IETF last call on draft-barany-eap-gee-04.txt

2006-12-28 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
EAP conversations between peer and authenticator. Yoshihiro Ohba Next, where as it is true that pre-authentication does allow multiple EAP conversations to occur in parallel, it is important to note that pre-authentication merely solves a subset of the problems. In fact

[FW: Re: [eap] Please review -- IETF Last Call ondraft-barany-eap-gee-04.txt]

2006-12-26 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
- Forwarded message from Yoshihiro Ohba [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Yoshihiro Ohba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [eap] Please review -- IETF Last Call ondraft-barany-eap-gee-04.txt To: Bernard Aboba [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], eap@frascone.com User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08

Re: Last Call: 'Guidance for AAA Key management' to BCP (draft-housley-aaa-key-mgmt)

2006-11-08 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
which involve use of AAA for derivation or transport of keying material. In the case of EAP, that would include EAP methods, AAA protocols as well as the SAP. Does 'AAA key management' protocol also include EAP lower layer protocols such as 802.1X, PANA and IKEv2? Yoshihiro Ohba 1. I do

Re: The Emperor Has No Clothes: Is PANA actually useful?

2006-05-30 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
Hi Joel, Reading the entire thread, I think we should seriously consider your detailed suggestions to improve the PANA framework draft for broader acceptance in the community. Thank you, Yoshihiro Ohba On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 09:42:25AM -0400, Joel M. Halpern wrote: I think the confusion

Re: The Emperor Has No Clothes: Is PANA actually useful?

2006-05-29 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
on the discussion. Yoshihiro Ohba Yours, Joel M. Halpern ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org

Re: The Emperor Has No Clothes: Is PANA actually useful?

2006-05-27 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
Vidya, Administratively scoped multicast is not the only way for PAA discovery. DHCP based PAA discovery is also available: draft-ietf-dhc-paa-option-02.txt Regards, Yoshihiro Ohba On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 04:34:22PM -0700, Narayanan, Vidya wrote: Hi Jari, Hi Vidya, Re 1: I do

Re: The Emperor Has No Clothes: Is PANA actually useful?

2006-05-27 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
but not IPsec SA (e.g., DSL), EAP over IKEv2 is too much. Hope this helps, Yoshihiro Ohba On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 12:00:31PM -0700, Narayanan, Vidya wrote: Hi Jari, Hi Lakshminath, I guess there are differences in our understanding of 3G-WLAN interworking (and I could be wrong

Re: The Emperor Has No Clothes: Is PANA actually useful?

2006-05-25 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
protocol for bootstrapping IPsec to protect NACP, perhaps EAP over IKEv2?? I have other security-related issues on NACP. My view is that secure enhancement of NACP will be equivalent to the EAP over UDP protocol the IETF is standardizing, PANA. Yoshihiro Ohba So from what I can tell, in each

Re: The Emperor Has No Clothes: Is PANA actually useful?

2006-05-25 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
to be the right thing. Yoshihiro Ohba ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-pana-framework-06

2006-04-06 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
has been already clarified by David Nelson. TGi voted to accept the text proposed for the intent. So I don't expect the intent to be changed through the interpretation request procedure, while I expect the intent to be more clarified in the procedure. Best regards, Yoshihiro Ohba On Thu, Apr 06

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-pana-framework-06

2006-03-21 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
802.1X frame exchanged over Uncontrolled Port without any exception, I'd suggest removing the above text in clause 5.4.2.2 from 802.11i specification. Best regards, Yoshihiro Ohba On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 08:17:22PM -0500, Russ Housley wrote: Yesterday I had a discussion with Bernard Aboba about

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-pana-framework-06

2006-03-21 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
of the implementation in Open Diameter project. Regards, Yoshihiro Ohba On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 11:45:25AM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote: Yoshihiro == Yoshihiro Ohba [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: e email discussion over Yoshihiro the EAP mailing list quoted below, I had a short Yoshihiro conversation

Re: HOAKEY BoF in Dallas

2006-02-28 Thread Yoshihiro Ohba
Information on the other part of the HOAKEY BOF, PREAUTH, is given below. PREAUTH chairs: Yoshihiro Ohba ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Alper yegin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) PREAUTH charter: http://www.opendiameter.org/pipermail/preauth/2006-February/57.html PREAUTH Mailing list: http