RE: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-20 Thread l.wood
There's always some excuse as to why multi-homing is never done properly. On 03/19/13 20:38, Michael Richardson allegedly wrote: Actually, I'd just settle for a badge that wasn't always backwards. It costs a lot more to get lanyards that attach at two corners.

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-20 Thread Dave Cridland
On 19 Mar 2013 22:47, Ole Jacobsen o...@cisco.com wrote: I can just see the list of MUST, SHOULD and MAY have attributes, Tsk. RFC 2119 only applies to interoperability requirements, as you well know. So unless we're also swapping t-shirts...

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-20 Thread Yao
, March 19, 2013 4:05 PM Subject: Re: Getting rid of the dot On 18/03/2013 22:10, Carsten Bormann wrote: I wouldn't mind replacing my blue dot with an indication *what* WG I chair, and in which area that is. Might be a bit more logistics when chairs change, but nothing that can't

Re: [IETF] Getting rid of the dot (was: Mentoring)

2013-03-20 Thread Warren Kumari
On Mar 19, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Carsten Bormann c...@tzi.org wrote: On Mar 19, 2013, at 13:22, Michael Richardson m...@sandelman.ca wrote: Instead of getting a new badge every meeting, maybe we should just get an IETF86 dot on a badge we keep from meeting to meeting. I want my badge on a

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-19 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 18/03/2013 22:10, Carsten Bormann wrote: I wouldn't mind replacing my blue dot with an indication *what* WG I chair, and in which area that is. Might be a bit more logistics when chairs change, but nothing that can't be solved with a DYMO labelmaker. I can only speak for myself, but I

Re: Getting rid of the dot (was: Mentoring)

2013-03-19 Thread Michael Richardson
Jeffrey == Jeffrey Haas jh...@pfrc.org writes: Jeffrey Such an exercise would probably generate a lot less Jeffrey controversy than my unsanctioned badge experiment. Jeffrey http://pfrc.org/~jhaas/pictures/badge.jpg nice. Instead of getting a new badge every meeting, maybe we

Re: Getting rid of the dot (was: Mentoring)

2013-03-19 Thread Jeffrey Haas
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 08:22:46AM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: Jeffrey == Jeffrey Haas jh...@pfrc.org writes: Jeffrey Such an exercise would probably generate a lot less Jeffrey controversy than my unsanctioned badge experiment. Jeffrey

Re: Getting rid of the dot (was: Mentoring)

2013-03-19 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Mar 19, 2013, at 13:22, Michael Richardson m...@sandelman.ca wrote: Instead of getting a new badge every meeting, maybe we should just get an IETF86 dot on a badge we keep from meeting to meeting. I want my badge on a shiny embossed metal plate with the words protocol police on it. Where

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-19 Thread Aaron Yi DING
On 19/03/13 17:19, Carsten Bormann wrote: On Mar 19, 2013, at 13:22, Michael Richardson m...@sandelman.ca wrote: Instead of getting a new badge every meeting, maybe we should just get an IETF86 dot on a badge we keep from meeting to meeting. I want my badge on a shiny embossed metal plate

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-19 Thread Scott Brim
I want my badge to have my name and a small screen showing the room I just came from.

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-19 Thread John Levine
In article 51489888.6050...@internet2.edu you write: I want my badge to have my name and a small screen showing the room I just came from. I want the screen to show the room I'm going to next. And it should be upside down so I can read it.

Re: Getting rid of the dot (was: Mentoring)

2013-03-19 Thread Michael StJohns
At 10:08 AM 3/19/2013, Jeffrey Haas wrote: On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 08:22:46AM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: Jeffrey == Jeffrey Haas jh...@pfrc.org writes: Jeffrey Such an exercise would probably generate a lot less Jeffrey controversy than my unsanctioned badge experiment.

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-19 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/19/2013 11:48 AM, John Levine wrote: In article 51489888.6050...@internet2.edu you write: I want my badge to have my name and a small screen showing the room I just came from. I want the screen to show the room I'm going to next. And it should be upside down so I can read it. And a

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-19 Thread Michael Richardson
Doug == Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us writes: In article 51489888.6050...@internet2.edu you write: I want my badge to have my name and a small screen showing the room I just came from. I want the screen to show the room I'm going to next. And it should be upside

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-19 Thread Ole Jacobsen
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, Michael Richardson wrote: Actually, I'd just settle for a badge that wasn't always backwards. This *is* solvable. We've been using double-sided badges at APRICOT for years, they look the same flipped or flopped. Of course this would require (gasp) two sets of dots, I am

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-19 Thread Sumanth Channabasappa
snip Actually, I'd just settle for a badge that wasn't always backwards. While I can't claim that it is 'always' backwards - perhaps a simple(?) solution is to print the identifying information (whatever is decided) on both sides? [Wait - does that double the number of dots :)? Hmmm...] - S

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-19 Thread Scott Brim
On 03/19/13 19:50, Michael StJohns allegedly wrote: There's a long history of martian badges at the IETF. During the Stanford IETF many many years ago, there were something like a dozen Milo Medin badges (and I seem to remember at one point Milo was wearing none of them), as well as badges

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-19 Thread Scott Brim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/13 20:38, Michael Richardson allegedly wrote: Actually, I'd just settle for a badge that wasn't always backwards. It costs a lot more to get lanyards that attach at two corners. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin)

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-19 Thread Spencer Dawkins
On 3/19/2013 4:09 PM, Scott Brim wrote: It costs a lot more to get lanyards that attach at two corners. Why am I encouraged every time I come across a problem that can be solved with duct tape? :-) Spencer

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-19 Thread John Levine
In article 5148d415.1000...@internet2.edu you write: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/13 20:38, Michael Richardson allegedly wrote: Actually, I'd just settle for a badge that wasn't always backwards. It costs a lot more to get lanyards that attach at two corners. If our

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-19 Thread Ole Jacobsen
Oh, please, not an T-shirt designed by an IETF working group! I can just see the list of MUST, SHOULD and MAY have attributes, and how large is large anyway? Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-19 Thread Eliot Lear
On 3/19/13 4:19 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: I want my badge on a shiny embossed metal plate with the words protocol police on it. Where do I have to apply? If memory serves, HP offered such a badge as Interop schwag in the late '80s. Another old timer, Erik Fair, actually kept his for a few

Getting rid of the dot (was: Mentoring)

2013-03-18 Thread SM
Hi Spencer, At 13:49 18-03-2013, Spencer Dawkins wrote: There are dots, and then there are dots. The one I'd like to see continued the most is the orange dot, for Nomcom members. We choose the voting members at random out of a volunteer pool, with some qualifications but not a lot, for a

Re: Getting rid of the dot (was: Mentoring)

2013-03-18 Thread Carsten Bormann
I wouldn't mind replacing my blue dot with an indication *what* WG I chair, and in which area that is. Might be a bit more logistics when chairs change, but nothing that can't be solved with a DYMO labelmaker. Grüße, Carsten

Re: Getting rid of the dot

2013-03-18 Thread Spencer Dawkins
On 3/18/2013 5:04 PM, SM wrote: At 13:49 18-03-2013, Spencer Dawkins wrote: There are dots, and then there are dots. The one I'd like to see continued the most is the orange dot, for Nomcom members. We choose the voting members at random out of a volunteer pool, with some qualifications but

Re: Getting rid of the dot (was: Mentoring)

2013-03-18 Thread Jeffrey Haas
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:10:14PM +0100, Carsten Bormann wrote: I wouldn't mind replacing my blue dot with an indication *what* WG I chair, and in which area that is. Might be a bit more logistics when chairs change, but nothing that can't be solved with a DYMO labelmaker. Since I live