Hotel Options for IETF 92 in Dallas

2015-01-27 Thread IETF Secretariat
IETF 92 Dallas, TX, USA March 22 - 27, 2015 Host: Google There are only 54 days until the IETF meeting in Dallas and the meeting and overflow hotels are nearly full. Six hotels within one mile of the Fairmont Dallas are identified below. There are certainly others nearby that are discoverable

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-23 Thread Michael Richardson
Randy == Randy Bush ra...@psg.com writes: Randy sorry, but enough is enough. I still do not understand visiting a tourist destination (Orlando) during it's peak (March). I also don't understand two meetings in a row on the US east coast.

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-22 Thread Dave Crocker
On 8/17/2012 12:05 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote: For example once I know the criteria I could check around in Poland to see if there is any place which would satisfy the future IETF venue. http://www.ietf.org/meeting/hosting-an-ietf.html d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking

Re: much farther away than IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-22 Thread John Levine
For example once I know the criteria I could check around in Poland to see if there is any place which would satisfy the future IETF venue. http://www.ietf.org/meeting/hosting-an-ietf.html That's about how to be a meeting host, and it's mostly about terminal rooms and social events. Is

Re: much farther away than IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-22 Thread Worley, Dale R (Dale)
On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 20:11 +, John Levine wrote: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/hosting-an-ietf.html Is there a list anywhere of minimum requirements without which it's not even worth looking at a venue? I'd expect that if a place doesn't have (as some examples) a meeting room big

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-21 Thread Ole Jacobsen (ole)
Glen, Maybe you've missed the fact that the IAOC has a rather excellent contractor that does meeting planning for a living? Maybe you prefer my darts version, oh well :-) Ole J. Jacobsen Editor Publisher http://cisco.com/ipj Sent from my iPhone On 21 Aug 2012, at 06:52, Glen Zorn

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-21 Thread Randy Bush
And that's undoubtedly why the IAOC is packed with professional meeting organizers! looks to me as if the iaoc knows what they do not know and have the sense to contract it out to pros. unlike the amateurs on list who have never organized a medium-sized meeting such as the ietf in their lives

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-21 Thread Michael Richardson
Randy == Randy Bush ra...@psg.com writes: Randy sorry, but enough is enough. I still do not understand visiting a tourist destination (Orlando) during it's peak (March). I also don't understand two meetings in a row on the US east coast. -- Michael Richardson -at the cottage-

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-21 Thread Pelletier Ray
On Aug 21, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: Randy == Randy Bush ra...@psg.com writes: Randy sorry, but enough is enough. I still do not understand visiting a tourist destination (Orlando) during it's peak (March). I also don't understand two meetings in a row on the US

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-21 Thread Randy Bush
I still do not understand visiting a tourist destination (Orlando) during it's peak (March). I also don't understand two meetings in a row on the US east coast. there are lots of things i do not understand. i try to focus on those i need to in order to do good work. that's hard enough.

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-20 Thread Worley, Dale R (Dale)
We are paid well to design protocols because designing protocols that work well in practice is a tricky art that is best practiced by experts in the field. But negotiating all the arrangements for a complex technical conference is a straightforward matter of comparing the published room rates of

Re: [IAOC] IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-20 Thread Dave Crocker
On 8/17/2012 4:34 PM, John C Klensin wrote: --On Friday, August 17, 2012 21:20 +0200 Robert Raszuk rob...@raszuk.net wrote: Besides hotel is least worry as we do know the IETF rates for the last few years and it is quite easy to check with any hotel if they are willing to meet those

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-20 Thread Ole Jacobsen
Dale, We actually like to have a little fun with it. At the World IAOC Headquarters (WIAOCH) we have a huge world map and a set of darts. After having some drinks to put us in the right mood, we start tossing darts at the wall and rolling specially designed dice where each face has logos and

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-20 Thread Glen Zorn
On 08/20/2012 09:29 PM, Worley, Dale R (Dale) wrote: We are paid well to design protocols because designing protocols that work well in practice is a tricky art that is best practiced by experts in the field. But negotiating all the arrangements for a complex technical conference is a

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-18 Thread Michal Krsek
Hi, Hotel contracts by their nature need to be negotiated under mutual NDA unless you want all the vendors in the region to mysteriously arrive at the same lower bound. All hotel rates are wide open and published on IETF web page. It's an interesting NDA which permits open disclosure ;-)

Re: [IAB] IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-17 Thread Wes Hardaker
Behcet Sarikaya sarikaya2...@gmail.com writes: It was a natural event that happens rarely in Dallas, in fact since 2006, it has not happened again. That's because we haven't been back yet. -- Wes Hardaker SPARTA, Inc.

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-17 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Bob, Is there any way to broaden the scope of IAOC choice and provide the candidate locations which would meet IETF criteria by any IETF member ? For example once I know the criteria I could check around in Poland to see if there is any place which would satisfy the future IETF venue. I

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-17 Thread joel jaeggli
On 8/17/12 12:05 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote: Hi Bob, Is there any way to broaden the scope of IAOC choice and provide the candidate locations which would meet IETF criteria by any IETF member ? For example once I know the criteria I could check around in Poland to see if there is any place

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-17 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hotel contracts by their nature need to be negotiated under mutual NDA unless you want all the vendors in the region to mysteriously arrive at the same lower bound. All hotel rates are wide open and published on IETF web page. It's an interesting NDA which permits open disclosure ;-)

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-17 Thread joel jaeggli
On 8/17/12 12:20 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote: Hotel contracts by their nature need to be negotiated under mutual NDA unless you want all the vendors in the region to mysteriously arrive at the same lower bound. All hotel rates are wide open and published on IETF web page. It's an interesting

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-17 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, August 17, 2012 21:20 +0200 Robert Raszuk rob...@raszuk.net wrote: Besides hotel is least worry as we do know the IETF rates for the last few years and it is quite easy to check with any hotel if they are willing to meet those targets or not. Actually, we don't (although one

Re: [IAOC] IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-17 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, August 17, 2012 16:44 -0400 Dave Crocker dcroc...@gmail.com wrote: --On Friday, August 17, 2012 21:20 +0200 Robert Raszuk rob...@raszuk.net wrote: Besides hotel is least worry as we do know the IETF rates for the last few years and it is quite easy to check with any hotel if

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas! ... vetting of alternatives

2012-08-17 Thread David Morris
On Fri, 17 Aug 2012, joel jaeggli wrote: On 8/17/12 12:20 PM, Robert Raszuk wrote: Hotel contracts by their nature need to be negotiated under mutual NDA unless you want all the vendors in the region to mysteriously arrive at the same lower bound. All hotel rates are wide open

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-16 Thread Mark Andrews
Berlin 28 July - 2 Aug Host and Sponsors Sought IETF 88 Vancouver 3 - 8 November Host Sought 2014 - Hosts sought IETF 89 London IETF 90 Toronto IETF 91 Honolulu 2015 - Hosts sought IETF 92 Dallas IETF 93 Europe IETF 94 Yokohama WIDE -- Mark

Re: [IAB] IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-16 Thread John Levine
People also should be aware that Dallas has major transit and highway work underway right now in particular North of the airport. By 2015 (2014 actually), you will be able to take light rail (orange line) from the airport to downtown: http://www.dart.org/about/expansion/orangeline.asp Somehow it

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-16 Thread Fred Baker (fred)
On Aug 15, 2012, at 8:37 PM, Arturo Servin wrote: So Americas was actually North America. Well, it went the possibility to have one in central or south america, what at shame. At least until IETF 98 in March 2017 no IETF down the south of Rio Grande. May I ask the

Re: [IAB] IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-16 Thread Tony Hansen
ah, the memories ... Tony Hansen On 8/16/2012 2:31 PM, John Levine wrote: People also should be aware that Dallas has major transit and highway work underway right now in particular North of the airport. By 2015 (2014 actually), you will be able to take light rail (orange line) from the

Re: [IAB] IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-16 Thread Carlos M. martinez
Fond memories of my first IETF... We were stuck at a highway exit for 4 hours unable to either cross the swollen river that had been a side road minutes before or to go back. :=) ~Carlos On 8/16/12 4:48 PM, Tony Hansen wrote: ah, the memories ... Tony Hansen On 8/16/2012 2:31 PM,

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-16 Thread Bob Hinden
Arturo, [Reducing the cc: list to just the IETF and IAOC lists] The IAOC seriously investigated a venue in South America for IETF92, but based on the data we collected it did not meet the criteria for IETF meetings. We are continuing to talk with the group that suggested the venue and are

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-16 Thread Arturo Servin
Bob, Thanks! It is very nice to hear that you were seriously considering adding new venues for the IETF meetings. Hopefully you will find something suitable and somehow not very hard to go for everybody in the future. Regards, as On 16 Aug 2012, at 18:12, Bob Hinden wrote:

Re: [IAB] IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-16 Thread John R Levine
Fond memories of my first IETF... We were stuck at a highway exit for 4 hours unable to either cross the swollen river that had been a side road minutes before or to go back. I got to DFW, called the place I was staying (a motel across the street from the venue) who told me that the water was

Re: [IAB] IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-16 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
Folks, as a Dallas resident I have to let you know that the flooding we had in 2006 happened after a long period of draught and the rain was very welcome to the people at that time, may be not so much of it of course :-). It was a natural event that happens rarely in Dallas, in fact since 2006,

Re: [IAB] IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-16 Thread Mary Barnes
It is impossible to predict Dallas weather and I'd be the last person to say I had any idea what the weather would be in March 2015. March has some of the most dramatic weather changes and differences - very much the lion and the lamb. However, I've lived in Dallas for 29 years and that was only

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-16 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
It is possible that Brazil will be looking to host various international conferences ahead of the Olympics as 'practice runs'. China did that and so have other countries. Given the Government of Brazil's interest in things Internetish it might be an opening. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Fred

IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-15 Thread IETF Administrative Director
IETF 92 Dallas IETF 93 Europe IETF 94 Yokohama WIDE

Re: [IAB] IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-15 Thread Mary Barnes
London IETF 90 Toronto IETF 91 Honolulu 2015 - Hosts sought IETF 92 Dallas IETF 93 Europe IETF 94 Yokohama WIDE

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-15 Thread Arturo Servin
IETF 89 London IETF 90 Toronto IETF 91 Honolulu 2015 - Hosts sought IETF 92 Dallas IETF 93 Europe IETF 94 Yokohama WIDE

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-15 Thread Alejandro Acosta
IETF 88 Vancouver 3 - 8 November Host Sought 2014 - Hosts sought IETF 89 London IETF 90 Toronto IETF 91 Honolulu 2015 - Hosts sought IETF 92 Dallas IETF 93 Europe IETF 94 Yokohama WIDE

Re: IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-15 Thread joel jaeggli
) Comcast NBC Universal IETF 87 Berlin 28 July - 2 Aug Host and Sponsors Sought IETF 88 Vancouver 3 - 8 November Host Sought 2014 - Hosts sought IETF 89 London IETF 90 Toronto IETF 91 Honolulu 2015 - Hosts sought IETF 92 Dallas IETF

IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-15 Thread IETF Administrative Director
IETF 92 Dallas IETF 93 Europe IETF 94 Yokohama WIDE