Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-09 Thread Donald Eastlake
wrote: Subject: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes. Date: Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 04:58:52PM -0400 Quoting Hector Santos (hsan...@isdg.net): This is one of those DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) arising from globalization, April 1 HRC (Humor

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes. Date: Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 04:58:52PM -0400 Quoting Hector Santos (hsan...@isdg.net): This is one of those DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) arising from globalization, April 1 HRC (Humor Recognition

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Melinda Shore
Doesn't it strike you as odd that this discussion has moved towards some sort of tacit/accepted acknowledgment of the role of joke RFCs as insider/outsider cultural markers rather than just clever bits of writing that are widely enjoyed? I'm a little surprised to find myself developing sympathy

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes. Date: Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 12:30:30AM -0800 Quoting Melinda Shore (melinda.sh...@gmail.com): Doesn't it strike you as odd that this discussion has moved towards some sort of tacit/accepted

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Ted Lemon
On Apr 8, 2013, at 4:30 AM, Melinda Shore melinda.sh...@gmail.commailto:melinda.sh...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway this strikes me as an unfortunate use of those documents. Although this is not entirely a good thing, it is worth noting that one purpose in creating borders is to lure people across

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Melinda Shore
Well, the timing of this strikes me as one of those oh moments, following as quickly on the heels of the diversity discussion. Not so much because of language and culture issues (although those are unavoidable) but because it strikes me as kind of unhealthy to use the April Fool RFCs as a tool to

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Ted Lemon
On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Melinda Shore melinda.sh...@gmail.commailto:melinda.sh...@gmail.com wrote: Well, the timing of this strikes me as one of those oh moments, following as quickly on the heels of the diversity discussion. Not so much because of language and culture issues (although

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Melinda Shore
I am absolutely not suggesting changing anything other than the unfortunate attitude that the right response to someone missing the joke is to read them out of the meeting/declare them anathema or unworthy or not members of this community. Your beef isn't with me, it's with Måns. Melinda

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Ted Lemon
On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Melinda Shore melinda.sh...@gmail.commailto:melinda.sh...@gmail.com wrote: Your beef isn't with me, it's with Måns. I've got no beef with either of you—I'm a vegetarian! :) (I actually found what Måns had to say valuable, which illustrates one of the great

RE: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Pat Thaler
Of Melinda Shore Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 1:31 AM To: Måns Nilsson Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes. Doesn't it strike you as odd that this discussion has moved towards some sort of tacit/accepted acknowledgment

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes. Date: Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 05:57:54AM -0800 Quoting Melinda Shore (melinda.sh...@gmail.com): I am absolutely not suggesting changing anything other than the unfortunate attitude that the right

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Yoav Nir
On Apr 8, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Måns Nilsson mansa...@besserwisser.org wrote: Subject: Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes. Date: Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 05:57:54AM -0800 Quoting Melinda Shore (melinda.sh...@gmail.com): I am absolutely

Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-07 Thread Hector Santos
This is one of those DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) arising from globalization, April 1 HRC (Humor Recognition Culture) differences, IETF stalization and the growth of I-D submissions. I suggest there is a direct correlation among these factors with the end goal efficacy of the