Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-05-11 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Fri 11/May/2012 08:56:14 +0200 IETF Chair wrote: > > We have identified space in Vancouver to hold the "Bits and Bites" event, Would it be possible to design a _unified_ event board that mentions _all_ the events at the location, including this one, WGs, BoFs, not only IETF, but also IRTF, ISO

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-05-10 Thread IETF Chair
We have identified space in Vancouver to hold the "Bits and Bites" event, and we are now seeking sponsors for tables at the event. If your organization is interested in face-to-face time with hundreds of IETF participants, please contact Drew Dvorshak to sponsor a table. Please act promptly

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-04-18 Thread Marshall Eubanks
m) 484-962-0060 > w) http://www.comcast6.net > = > > > > > -Original Message- > From: IETF Chair > Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:40:22 -0400 > To: IETF Announce , "ietf@ietf.org" > Subject: Query to the community -- An additional

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-04-17 Thread Brzozowski, John
w) http://www.comcast6.net = -Original Message- From: IETF Chair Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:40:22 -0400 To: IETF Announce , "ietf@ietf.org" Subject: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event? >We sent a query to the

Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-04-16 Thread IETF Chair
We sent a query to the community on March 16, 2012. There was a discussion on the IETF mailing list. We also presented the topic in the IETF chair and IAOC chair presentations at administrative plenary at IETF 83, and there was an active discussion at the open mic that followed. Our conclusio

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-19 Thread Ed Juskevicius
I have two comments on this. 1) I am in favor of allowing the IAOC to experiment with an event (or two) like this for the purposes of developing running code with the associated pros, cons and economics. 2) I would attend such an additional event if the gear on display was related to technology

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-19 Thread Ole Jacobsen
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012, Michael Richardson wrote: > > +1. If it's really the social, or better, the Sunday night event, then > great. I've been at two NANOGs for beer-n-gear, and while I found it a > bit weak in "gear", and not that well attended, I actually enjoyed it. > Must have been a while a

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-19 Thread Michael Richardson
> "Wes" == Wes George writes: Wes> That said, I don't think that this potential experiment Wes> requires a *separate* night. I'd much prefer to replace the Wes> current "overpriced hotel cash bar" arrangement at the welcome Wes> reception with something more like beer-n-gear.

VS: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-19 Thread teemu.savolainen
IAOC Chair Lähet.: 16.03.2012, 22:14 V.ottaja: IETF Announcement List Aihe: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event? The IESG and IAOC are considering an addition to the IETF meeting week, and we would like your views before we develop the idea further. At NANOG, there is a Beer

FW: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-19 Thread Knight, Frederick
I think this is a good thing to try. -Original Message- From: ietf-announce-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-announce-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of IAOC Chair Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 4:14 PM To: IETF Announcement List Subject: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event

RE: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-19 Thread George, Wes
> From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henk > Uijterwaal > > We have had cases where the opening reception was sponsored by somebody other > than the host for the meeting (if there was a host). The sponsor didn't get > much more than the possibility to put a sign

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-18 Thread Henk Uijterwaal
All, We have had cases where the opening reception was sponsored by somebody other than the host for the meeting (if there was a host). The sponsor didn't get much more than the possibility to put a sign near the front door and get some recognition during one of the plenary sessions. This propos

RE: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-17 Thread Richard Shockey
-announce-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of IAOC Chair Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 4:14 PM To: IETF Announcement List Subject: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event? The IESG and IAOC are considering an addition to the IETF meeting week, and we would like your views before we

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-17 Thread Scott Brim
Those vendors who want to organize themselves into a beer & gear should do so and then coordinate with the IETF early in the planning process in order to have space they can pay for. They can either pay the IETF or pay the hotel for the incremental meeting cost. There is no need for the IETF to t

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-17 Thread jonne.soininen
Hello everybody, The beer and gear seems to work pretty well at Nanog, and therefore it is a good idea to consider it for the IETF. However, I am a bit worried that we are, however, not seeing the difference between the IETF and Nanog. Nanog is a Network Operator Group. Hence, the name. Vendors co

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-16 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 3/16/12 14:19 , Fred Baker wrote: > > On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:13 PM, David Meyer wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Fred Baker >> wrote: >>> The question I would ask is: "who are the vendors marketing to, >>> and what are they selling?" At NANOG, that's fairly clear; >>> companies lik

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-16 Thread Fred Baker
On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: > But these are worth pursuing only if the community is comfortable with the > basic idea of doing this kind of event. I'm willing to do the experiment.

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-16 Thread Dave Crocker
Fred, et al, On 3/16/2012 2:03 PM, Fred Baker wrote: Not opposed to the experiment, but not sure that we're comparing apples to apples. To clarify: The current question is about IETF community comfort with the IAOC's exploring this. That is, it's a form of "may we proceed to do the resea

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-16 Thread Fred Baker
On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:13 PM, David Meyer wrote: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Fred Baker wrote: >> The question I would ask is: "who are the vendors marketing to, and what are >> they selling?" At NANOG, that's fairly clear; companies like Cisco and >> Juniper, and resellers like Network

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-16 Thread David Meyer
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Fred Baker wrote: > The question I would ask is: "who are the vendors marketing to, and what are > they selling?" At NANOG, that's fairly clear; companies like Cisco and > Juniper, and resellers like Network Hardware, are selling to their customers, > who are of

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-16 Thread Fred Baker
The question I would ask is: "who are the vendors marketing to, and what are they selling?" At NANOG, that's fairly clear; companies like Cisco and Juniper, and resellers like Network Hardware, are selling to their customers, who are often technical decision makers or senior staff in companies t

Re: Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-16 Thread Riccardo Bernardini
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:49 PM, IAOC Chair wrote: > > The IESG and IAOC are considering an addition to the IETF meeting week, and > we would like your views before we develop the idea further. > > At NANOG, there is a Beer and Gear reception one evening.  There are > exhibitor tables with produ

Query to the community -- An additional IETF Meeting event?

2012-03-16 Thread IAOC Chair
The IESG and IAOC are considering an addition to the IETF meeting week, and we would like your views before we develop the idea further. At NANOG, there is a Beer and Gear reception one evening. There are exhibitor tables with product vendors (hardware and software) and service providers (reg