Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-06 Thread Wes Hardaker
Olafur Gudmundsson o...@ogud.com writes: If you agree with this petition please either comment on this posting, With regret, if you still need more signatures, you can add my name to the list and I am nomcom eligible. -- Wes Hardaker SPARTA, Inc.

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-06 Thread Carlos Caliente
Yo, add my name, too. Now. I'm NomCom eligible and shit according to RFC 3777, and the last time I talked at Marshall was at the Philly plenary a few years ago and he was a total dick. I don't give seven fucks if he blows his brains out because he loses his title, I want him gone. The IETF

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-06 Thread IETF Chair
After a very brief consultation with the IESG, I have asked the Secretariat to block the verywarmc...@gmail.com email address from further posting to this mail list, and I have asked the Secretariat to delete the message from the mail list archive so that searches will not bring it up. On

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-05 Thread Tobias Gondrom
Thank you Russ for the clarification and info. I am Nomcom-eligible and you can add me to the signature list, i.e. I support the recall. Best regards, Tobias On 04/11/12 09:15, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote: Thanks for extra info. You can add me to the list who sign the request for recall.

Re: [IETF] Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-05 Thread SM
At 10:39 01-11-2012, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: As this never been attempted before, by collecting the signatures myself, checking the NomCom eligibility and diversity in organizations as required by RFC3777, I hoped to There seems to be some misunderstanding about NomCom eligibility. It

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-04 Thread Bert Wijnen (IETF)
Thanks for extra info. You can add me to the list who sign the request for recall. Bert --On Saturday, 03 November, 2012 11:36 -0400 Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com wrote: John: I assume at this point the IAOC would like to pursue the recall option? If not, please be very clear about

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-04 Thread Arturo Servin
Thanks for the information to have a better decision. I am Nomcom-eligible and you can add me to the signature list. /Arturo Servin On 04/11/2012 12:15, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote: Thanks for extra info. You can add me to the list who sign the request for recall. Bert

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-04 Thread Livingood, Jason
Same here. I'm noncom-eligible and suppose the recall. Jason Livingood On 11/4/12 11:45 AM, Arturo Servin arturo.ser...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the information to have a better decision. I am Nomcom-eligible and you can add me to the signature list. /Arturo Servin On

RE: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-04 Thread Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
-Discussion list Subject: Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks Thanks for extra info. You can add me to the list who sign the request for recall. Bert --On Saturday, 03 November, 2012 11:36 -0400 Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com wrote: John: I assume at this point

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-04 Thread Livingood, Jason
suppose = support (if you were an auto-correct program) G... On 11/4/12 5:59 PM, Livingood, Jason jason_living...@cable.comcast.com wrote: Same here. I'm noncom-eligible and suppose the recall. Jason Livingood On 11/4/12 11:45 AM, Arturo Servin arturo.ser...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-04 Thread ALAIN AINA
Olafur, Add me to the signature list. I am NomCom elligible --Alain

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-03 Thread Scott O Bradner
I have not signed the petition because I did not think it was proper to do so (as a IAOC member - see Russ's message and RFC 3777) but, that aside, I do support the petition - I feel that the IAOC has given Marshal the full opportunity to start participating again or to resign and he has done

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-03 Thread Bob Hinden
On Nov 3, 2012, at 5:39 AM, Scott O Bradner wrote: I have not signed the petition because I did not think it was proper to do so (as a IAOC member - see Russ's message and RFC 3777) but, that aside, I do support the petition - I feel that the IAOC has given Marshal the full

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-03 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, 01 November, 2012 22:22 -0400 Michael StJohns mstjo...@comcast.net wrote: I assume at this point the IAOC would like to pursue the recall option? If not, please be very clear about it to the list as I haven't actually seen a request from the IAOC for that process to proceed

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-03 Thread Russ Housley
John: I assume at this point the IAOC would like to pursue the recall option? If not, please be very clear about it to the list as I haven't actually seen a request from the IAOC for that process to proceed as far as I can tell. Because I am personally very reluctant to see this handled

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-03 Thread Paul Hoffman
I am NomCom-eligible and I sign this petition. --Paul Hoffman

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-03 Thread Turchanyi Geza
All, Many tahanks for the clarification, the situation is clear enough. On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com wrote: John: At the end of our visit, I believe that Marshall understood that there were three possibilities: 1) Tell the community that he

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-03 Thread John C Klensin
Russ, Thanks very much for the clarification. Olafur, Go ahead and add me to the signature list. I am Nomcom-eligible. john --On Saturday, 03 November, 2012 11:36 -0400 Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com wrote: John: I assume at this point the IAOC would like to pursue the recall

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-02 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 01/11/2012 21:45, Sam Hartman wrote: ... At this point, I believe the recall process is the correct process to follow unless there is an approved BCP update. In a case where there's been no contact and there's an argument we've found a gap in the procedures I can see the argument for

RE: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-02 Thread Stephen Hanna
I also, with regret, would like to add my name to the recall petition. I am NomCom eligible. Thanks, Steve

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-02 Thread Turchanyi Geza
Brian, I would like to express my sadness as well, adding that I am most probably not NomCom eligible. I was only 23 when one of my freinds, community activist in the students circle of the university, committed a suicide. Three years later it happened again, by one other freind of us. I feel

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-02 Thread Henk Uijterwaal
On 01/11/2012 19:43, Fred Baker (fred) wrote: On Nov 1, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Olaf Kolkman wrote: I also offer my signature under the recall procedure, in case pragmatism doesn't prevail (see my other note). My offer of signature should in no way be interpreted as reflecting an opinion

Re: [IETF] Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Turchanyi Geza
Hello, I am glad to see that apparently there are no more supporters of this proposal. Please be more tolerant to Marshall Eubank. Best, Géza On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Warren Kumari war...@kumari.net wrote: Warren Kumari -- Please excuse typing, etc -- This was sent from a

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Margaret Wasserman
I am more concerned than disappointed about Marshall's disappearance from the IETF. However, I agree that complete absence from an I* position for three months without explanation should be grounds for recall. So, please consider me to be one of the signers of this petition. Marshall, if

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread tglassey
On 10/31/2012 2:30 PM, Margaret Wasserman wrote: I am more concerned than disappointed about Marshall's disappearance from the IETF. However, I agree that complete absence from an I* position for three months without explanation should be grounds for recall. So, please consider me to be one

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Olaf Kolkman
On Oct 31, 2012, at 10:21 PM, Olafur Gudmundsson o...@ogud.com wrote: Fellow IETF'rs below is a recall petition that I plan on submitting soon if there is enough support. If you agree with this petition please either comment on this posting, or send me email of support noting if you are

Re: [IETF] Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Dave Cridland
I am not NomCom qualified, but I do support the recall. I also suspect that, given the total disappearance of Marshall Eubanks from all online activity in early August, he is either ill, deceased, or otherwise unable to fulfill his obligations. Whichever, the IAOC needs a functional member, and so

Re: [IETF] Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Michael StJohns
Per Olafur's email, I submitted my signature directly to him, along with my Nomcom eligibility status. I'm sure other's did as well, so you shouldn't take the absence of emails on this list as lack of support for the proposal. Mike At 06:25 AM 11/1/2012, Turchanyi Geza wrote: Hello, I am

Re: [IETF] Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Dave Crocker
On 11/1/2012 10:52 AM, Michael StJohns wrote: Per Olafur's email, I submitted my signature directly to him, along with my Nomcom eligibility status. I'm sure other's did as well, so you shouldn't take the absence of emails on this list as lack of support for the proposal. (wearing no hat)

Re: [IETF] Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread tglassey
On 11/1/2012 11:08 AM, Dave Crocker wrote: On 11/1/2012 10:52 AM, Michael StJohns wrote: Per Olafur's email, I submitted my signature directly to him, along with my Nomcom eligibility status. I'm sure other's did as well, so you shouldn't take the absence of emails on this list as lack of

Re: [IETF] Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Olafur Gudmundsson
On 01/11/2012 14:08, Dave Crocker wrote: On 11/1/2012 10:52 AM, Michael StJohns wrote: Per Olafur's email, I submitted my signature directly to him, along with my Nomcom eligibility status. I'm sure other's did as well, so you shouldn't take the absence of emails on this list as lack of

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Fred Baker (fred)
On Nov 1, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Olaf Kolkman wrote: I also offer my signature under the recall procedure, in case pragmatism doesn't prevail (see my other note). My offer of signature should in no way be interpreted as reflecting an opinion about Marshall's character. Ditto, and Ditto.

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
On Nov 1, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Olaf Kolkman wrote: I also offer my signature under the recall procedure, in case pragmatism doesn't prevail (see my other note). My offer of signature should in no way be interpreted as reflecting an opinion about Marshall's character.

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread James Polk
At 01:43 PM 11/1/2012, Fred Baker (fred) wrote: On Nov 1, 2012, at 9:32 AM, Olaf Kolkman wrote: I also offer my signature under the recall procedure, in case pragmatism doesn't prevail (see my other note). My offer of signature should in no way be interpreted as reflecting an opinion about

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Eliot Lear
+1. On 11/1/12 5:32 PM, Olaf Kolkman wrote: I also offer my signature under the recall procedure, in case pragmatism doesn't prevail (see my other note). My offer of signature should in no way be interpreted as reflecting an opinion about Marshall's character.

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Sam Hartman
I offer my signature to the recall petition. I am nomcom eligible. At this point, I believe the recall process is the correct process to follow unless there is an approved BCP update. In a case where there's been no contact and there's an argument we've found a gap in the procedures I can see the

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Bob Hinden
Sam, On Nov 1, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: I offer my signature to the recall petition. I am nomcom eligible. At this point, I believe the recall process is the correct process to follow unless there is an approved BCP update. In a case where there's been no contact and there's an

Re: [IETF] Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread John R Levine
As a small point of procedures, no one is sending an actual signature. It therefore would provide a modicum of better assurance for signatories to send the email that declares their signature directly to the ISOC President rather than to the person initiating the recall. If you're concerned

Re: [IETF] Re: [IETF] Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Warren Kumari
On Nov 1, 2012, at 6:57 PM, John R Levine jo...@taugh.com wrote: As a small point of procedures, no one is sending an actual signature. It therefore would provide a modicum of better assurance for signatories to send the email that declares their signature directly to the ISOC President

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Mike, A 3777 recall isn't dependent on the wishes of the IAOC... Sent from my iPhone On Nov 1, 2012, at 19:22, Michael StJohns mstjo...@comcast.net wrote: mime-attachment.txt

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 05:45:11PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: found a gap in the procedures I can see the argument for creativity. However, according to Bob's note, Marshall has been contacted and rather than resigning, said he would consider resigning. […] In my mind that moves us out of a

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Russ Housley
Mike: As Joel already said, the recall process is not dependent on the wishes of the IAOC. Further, please note that IAB, IESG, and IAOC members cannot be recall petition signers. RFC 3777 says: 1. At any time, at least 20 members of the IETF community, who are qualified to be voting

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-10-31 Thread Melinda Shore
On 10/31/12 1:21 PM, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: Fellow IETF'rs below is a recall petition that I plan on submitting soon if there is enough support. I regret having to do it this way, but since it seems to be necessary and there is no agreed-upon alternative, I support this. Melinda

Re: [IETF] Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-10-31 Thread Warren Kumari
Warren Kumari -- Please excuse typing, etc -- This was sent from a device with a tiny keyboard. On Oct 31, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Melinda Shore melinda.sh...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/31/12 1:21 PM, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: Fellow IETF'rs below is a recall petition that I plan on submitting