, 2007 1:31 PM
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Subject: Re: When is using patented technology appropriate?
Lawrence Rosen wrote:
Steven Bellovin wrote:
Right. Any IPR policy has to acknowledge the fact that relevant
patents can be owned by non-troll non-participants. (Too many
Lawrence Rosen wrote:
Steven Bellovin wrote:
Right. Any IPR policy has to acknowledge the fact that relevant
patents can be owned by non-troll non-participants. (Too many
negatives there -- what I'm saying is that IETFers don't know of all
patents in the space, and there are real patent
Sam Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simon == Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simon Frank Ellermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simon Josefsson wrote:
I would even consider a requirement that in order to move
beyond Proposed Standard, a protocol needs to have a
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Sam Hartman wrote:
However I feel there is something pathalogical going on in the open
source community surrounding patents. People are willing to use
technologies that probably have patents but are unwilling to use
technologies that clearly have patents and that have a
Simon == Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simon Sam Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simon == Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simon Frank Ellermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Simon Josefsson wrote: I would even consider a
requirement that in order
On 2007-10-25 04:30, Sam Hartman wrote:
...
Simon If you replace IBM with 'A Patent Troll', do you think the
Simon same holds?
I think that such behavior should be presumed not to be a patent
troll. Patent trolls are not known forpromising to give away
royalty-free licenses.
They
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:15:55 +1300
Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-10-25 04:30, Sam Hartman wrote:
...
Simon If you replace IBM with 'A Patent Troll', do you think
Simon the same holds?I think that such behavior should
Simon be presumed not to be a
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Subject: Re: When is using patented technology appropriate?
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:15:55 +1300
Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-10-25 04:30, Sam Hartman wrote:
...
Simon If you replace IBM with 'A Patent Troll', do you think
Simon the same
It seems to me that in some sense that disclosing a patent should not
make us less willing to use something. This is especially true when
the disclosing party is not obligated to make the disclosure.
Disclosing a patent along with an implication that the patent will be
enforced or that the
Ted == Ted Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It seems to me that in some sense that disclosing a patent
should not make us less willing to use something. This is
especially true when the disclosing party is not obligated to
make the disclosure. Disclosing a patent along
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