Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-27 Thread Alexa Morris
(3) While it is almost certainly too late to populate it before Berlin, I think the meeting page template could use a Remote Participants main section with pointers to hints and other relevant materials, including which mailing lists one should watch and that the web version of the meeting

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-27 Thread Aaron Yi DING
On 27/07/13 11:25, Alexa Morris wrote: We have created a small section called Remote Participation on the lower right side of the 87 meeting page here: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/index.html. It can and will be improved over time, but it's a start. +1. The key parts are there now.

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-27 Thread John C Klensin
--On Saturday, July 27, 2013 03:25 -0700 Alexa Morris amor...@amsl.com wrote: (3) While it is almost certainly too late to populate it before Berlin, I think the meeting page template could use a Remote Participants main section with pointers to hints and other relevant materials, including

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-26 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
I agree with your suggestion Christer. Remote-participants have right to register their attendance because they do attend remotely and IETF SHOULD register their information if available. Last meetings I did not like that I was not registered because I am remote, but now I feel more welcomed. I

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-25 Thread Christer Holmberg
Hi, Whatever the information is used for, or not used for, I think it would be useful to know the number of remote participants, and where they are located. Regards, Christer Sent from Windows using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com) -Original Message- From: SM [s...@resistor.net] To:

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-25 Thread Aaron Yi DING
On 25/07/13 05:27, Moriarty, Kathleen wrote: I like Aaron's suggestion to update the web with important information about a meeting. There is a lot of mail on the list and that could be a useful way to communicate updates, etc. Thanks, in case the previous mail is down in the pile

Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Janet P Gunn
I am another remote participant who would like to be able to subscribe to the meeting-specific mailing list. I can skip (myself) the ones about coffee and cookies, but definitely want to read the ones about schedule changes, etc. And even the other messages give me a taste of what it would

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Jari Arkko
Janet, I am another remote participant who would like to be able to subscribe to the meeting-specific mailing list. I can skip (myself) the ones about coffee and cookies, but definitely want to read the ones about schedule changes, etc. And even the other messages give me a taste

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Tim Chown
On 24 Jul 2013, at 16:18, Jari Arkko jari.ar...@piuha.net wrote: Janet, I am another remote participant who would like to be able to subscribe to the meeting-specific mailing list. I can skip (myself) the ones about coffee and cookies, but definitely want to read the ones about

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Jari Arkko
I see no reason why the 87attend...@ietf.org list shouldn't be open to remote participants. Is that not the case already? We should be doing all we can to encourage participation. Several people pointed out already (in private e-mail) that the list might be all that is needed, and it

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Scott Brim
The point of having a separate list for participants was to avoid spamming the ietf list. It can be open to everyone to subscribe to, since anyone can see the archives, HOWEVER I recommend that only registered participants be allowed to post. Scott

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 17:46 +0100 Tim Chown t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote: I see no reason why the 87attend...@ietf.org list shouldn't be open to remote participants. Is that not the case already? We should be doing all we can to encourage participation. It is already. It is a bit

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Barry Leiba
Unfortunately 87...@ietf.org --the announce version of the list-- is where the really important things, like schedule changes, show up. And, at least as far as I can tell, there is no way for a non-registrant to get on that list. Has anyone tried to subscribe on the listinfo page?:

RE: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Eric Gray
John, As I understand it, the meeting-specific mailing lists are used either mostly or exclusively for chatting about stuff at the meeting that is most relevant to folks at the meeting. Stuff like network/power/room issues, potential social activities, etc. If folks that are

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 02:26:21PM -0400, John C Klensin wrote: Unfortunately 87...@ietf.org --the announce version of the list-- is where the really important things, like schedule changes, show up. And, at least as far as I can tell, there is no way for a non-registrant to get on that list.

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 25/07/2013 05:01, Scott Brim wrote: The point of having a separate list for participants was to avoid spamming the ietf list. It can be open to everyone to subscribe to, since anyone can see the archives, HOWEVER I recommend that only registered participants be allowed to post. Ahem.

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Ted Lemon
On Jul 24, 2013, at 3:56 PM, Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote: I would envisage a fair amount of chatter about specific remote-participation issues, like this new codec isn't working for me, is it OK for anyone else using browser version on operating system version? We get

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Christer Holmberg
Hi, Why couldn't remote participants register to the meeting like all other participants? Remote participation would of course still be free, but it would allow remote participants to subscribe to the attendee list in the same way as other participants. In addition, it would provide better

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread SM
Hi Christer, At 13:54 24-07-2013, Christer Holmberg wrote: Why couldn't remote participants register to the meeting like all other participants? Remote participation would of course still be free, but it would allow remote participants to subscribe to the attendee list in the same way as

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, July 24, 2013 14:36 -0400 Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org wrote: Unfortunately 87...@ietf.org --the announce version of the list-- is where the really important things, like schedule changes, show up. And, at least as far as I can tell, there is no way for a

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Barry Leiba
Has anyone tried to subscribe on the listinfo page?: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87all I'm sorry to be difficult about this, but the point I was trying to make was about access by relatively remote relative newcomers. For them, at least, the question is not does the listinfo page

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Scott Brim
Brian: yes but non-registered thus non-ifentifiable subscribers, spammers etc don't. On Jul 24, 2013 3:56 PM, Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/07/2013 05:01, Scott Brim wrote: The point of having a separate list for participants was to avoid spamming the ietf list.

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Melinda Shore
On 7/24/13 10:35 AM, Eric Gray wrote: These lists are not - AFAIK - intended for meeting participation anywhere near as much as they are for meeting logisitics. My experience has been that they're for both, and while I'll be a remote participant this time I've already subscribed to the

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 25/07/2013 11:27, Scott Brim wrote: Brian: yes but non-registered thus non-ifentifiable subscribers, spammers etc don't. We're talking about a list with a useful lifetime of perhaps 3 weeks. I really don't think spam is a big issue. Trolls might be, but they would be *our* trolls ;-) Anyway

Re: Remote participants access to Meeting Mailing Lists was Re: BOF posters in the welcome reception

2013-07-24 Thread Moriarty, Kathleen
I like Aaron's suggestion to update the web with important information about a meeting. There is a lot of mail on the list and that could be a useful way to communicate updates, etc. Best regards, Kathleen Sent from my iPhone On Jul 25, 2013, at 12:12 AM, Brian E Carpenter