Re: Last Call: 'The IESG and RFC Editor documents: Procedures' to BCP

2004-05-12 Thread John C Klensin
--On Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:39 PM -0400 Scott Bradner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in general that seems OK though I'd like to see including the possibility of the author pursuing the work within the IETF added Clearly I intended that option to be included. I didn't state it for two reasons.

Re: Last Call: 'The IESG and RFC Editor documents: Procedures' to BCP

2004-05-12 Thread Scott Bradner
I get really worried about text -- especially new text-- in these procedural documents that enables or encourages potential protocol lawyers... whether they are inside the IESG or outside the core IETF community. a reasonable worry (sorry to say) - note though that the text I'm

RE: [dnsop] Re: Complaint on abuse of DNSOP lists

2004-05-12 Thread Richard Barr Hibbs
while Rob and I have had serious disagreements about technical matters in the past, I've never known him to make disparaging remarks about anyone, and a scan of the last 30 days' messages on the DNSOP list authored by Rob (and delivered to my inbox) show NONE that mention AV8, it's products,

Re: Complaint on abuse of DNSOP lists

2004-05-12 Thread Kevin C. Almeroth
This pretty much does it for me: anyone who says they are entitled to participate in the IETF immediately goes into my spam bucket. As others have pointed out, you've done yourself more harm than good. I'm entitled to particpate, and I'm entitled to send email to the WG chairs as a