and the point of your ad-hominem argument is what, exactly?
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/publications/internet-drafts
From: Yoav Nir [y...@checkpoint.com]
Sent: 18 April 2013 15:18
To: Wood L Dr (Electronic Eng)
Cc: wor...@ariadne.com;
A statistician? This entire thread is basically arguing that the IETF needs a
human resources department.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E
Carpenter
Only that you know enough people so that you could push a new technology even
without attending, although you would need to collaborate with some people who
do go. But pushing a new technology requires team building anyway.
The same should apply to other non-attenders who have gained some
Andrew
Because some people report that they experience a chilly environment,
and we respect those people for their other contributions and would
like more people like them to contribute in similar ways, and
therefore we want to make the environment less chilly. I'm sort of
surprised that that
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From: Dan Harkins dhark...@lounge.org
To: Andrew Sullivan a...@anvilwalrusden.com
Cc: ietf@ietf.org
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 4:59 AM
On Thu, April 18, 2013 6:44 pm, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 08:17:21AM -0700, Dan Harkins wrote:
So a problem
Female ADs include Allison Mankin, whose bio recently appeared on this list in
relation to her new appointment.
There's now a diversity discussion list, where this discussion should move to.
http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/04/diversity/
Does what you think matter, when you clearly don't know
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No name in the AD list appear so far, but if your the discuss-list is
right then it may be good progress, hoping for more names for
diversity. Your input not helping discussion,
AB
On 4/19/13, l.w...@surrey.ac.uk l.w...@surrey.ac.uk wrote:
Female ADs include Allison Mankin, whose bio recently
On 19 April 2013 at 12:22 Abdussalam Baryun abdussalambar...@gmail.com wrote
on this list:
No name in the AD list appear so far, but if your the discuss-list is
right then it may be good progress, hoping for more names for
diversity.
I count three ADs on the diversity discussion list at the
Following a number of the threads on diversity and, in particular, on
whether the effort to get a better demographic view of participation will
lead to quotas, I have been increasingly uncomfortable with some of the
arguments which appear to have some presumptions about how diversity and
I like your analysis. A comment while I am still warm
The first suggestion is a Newcomer's directorate.
(snip)
The second suggestion is a simple tool that at WG call time (be it last call
or call for adoption) randomly selects a set number of participants from the
mailing list, and then
Hi Ted,
interesting points indeed. I don't really know whether or not the approach you
propose might work in practice, though.
My personal experience in the IETF is that it is really hard to gain some
'popularity' among the members of this variegated gallery of characters,
especially if you
Nice post.
I wonder whether a better mechanism for drawing newcomers into the inner
circle - which is what I think you're intent is here - would be to randomly
select people to be involved in a short online meeting to discuss the
draft, rather than review it in isolation.
It'd be a different
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Dave Cridland d...@cridland.net wrote:
Nice post.
I wonder whether a better mechanism for drawing newcomers into the inner
circle - which is what I think you're intent is here - would be to randomly
select people to be involved in a short online meeting to
Hi Simon,
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Simon Pietro Romano sprom...@unina.itwrote:
Hi Ted,
interesting points indeed. I don't really know whether or not the approach
you propose might work in practice,
There is certainly a risk there, but I hope we can find ways of increasing
the
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Dave Cridland d...@cridland.net wrote:
Nice post.
I wonder whether a better mechanism for drawing newcomers into the inner
circle - which is what I think you're intent is here - would be to randomly
select people to be involved in a short online meeting to
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Riccardo Bernardini
framefri...@gmail.com wrote:
I like your analysis. A comment while I am still warm
The first suggestion is a Newcomer's directorate.
(snip)
The second suggestion is a simple tool that at WG call time (be it last
call
or call
On Apr 19, 2013, at 10:31 PM, Ted Hardie
ted.i...@gmail.commailto:ted.i...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Dave Cridland
d...@cridland.netmailto:d...@cridland.net wrote:
Nice post.
I wonder whether a better mechanism for drawing newcomers into the inner circle
- which is
Ted: Very nice post and good ideas. Thanks.
Jari
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Document: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6021-bis-01
This is an announcement of an Interim Meeting for the HTTPbis WG.
The goal of the meeting is to discuss the issues against HTTP/2 and formulate
proposals to bring back to the WG.
We'll be meeting in San Francisco from 13-14 June 2013. Twitter has kindly
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More details are
The Kitten WG is planning to hold a virtual interim meeting on May 6th,
2013 at 8am PDT, using Jabber, WebEx and/or conference dial-in.
The latest agenda is/will be at:
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