why specify on-the-wire protocols?

2000-11-07 Thread Jeff . Hodges
"So why," I am asked from time-to-time, "should we bother thoroughly specifying on-the-wire protocols? Why isn't just having the app (or whatever) open a socket to the other machine and schlep bytes over to it good enough? Why isn't it good enough to hide the protocol behind an API and only thi

RFC 2327 extensions - draft document

2000-11-07 Thread Raghavendra Rao
Hi, Need to know how the IETF draft document on "extensions to RFC 2327 for use in ATM base network" may be accessed. The URL:://Draft-ietf-megaco-sdp-atm-00.txt is no longer accessible. Thanks in adv, Ragahvendra Do not go where the path may lead, go instead w

Is there a URL for the Pillsbury "bake-off" cease-and-desist letter?

2000-11-07 Thread Jeff . Hodges
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Re: Bake-off as trademark

2000-11-07 Thread Paul Hoffman / IMC
OK, we have now reached >20 messages from armchair lawyers on trademark law. Given the earlier threads this year from armchair lawyers on patents, that leaves us just two months for us to have a ponderous thread on trade secrets, and we will have covered the main parts of intellectual property

Re: Bake-off as trademark

2000-11-07 Thread John Stracke
Scott Brim wrote: > At 09:22 PM 11/06/2000 +, Bob Braden wrote: > >Henning, > > > >Please see RFC 1025 from Sept 1987, or IEN 160 (online at > >the RFC Editor web site) for a November 1980 bake off. > >Is this 20 years ago early enough? > > Since the first Pillsbury Bake-Off was 50 years ago,

Re: More on bake-offs and trademarks

2000-11-07 Thread Jon Crowcroft
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Henning Schulzrinne typed: >>"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they are not after you... " >>Apparently, Pillsbury is on a bigger crusade, as the editorial change at >>http://cacheoff.ircache.net/ is indeed due to lawyer pressure, based on >>reports f