Hi,
as usual, the normos project (http://www.normos.org) provide tarballs of
all internet-drafts and rfcs for the ietf meeting. The internet-drafts and
rfcs tarballs are always available at the normos site and are updated daily.
Here are the urls:
internet-drafts (20M, tar-gzipped):
Masataka Ohta and Vernon Schryver make excellent points in favor
of the domain name status quo. I agree that IDN should be frozen
for at least a few years to see what local domain admins and
application vendors tend to do, especially since the pieces of
the likely solutions (such as the compe
>And the lawyers would insist that something like:
>180.035.069.037
>would spell 1-800-Flowers and try to reserve an IP address based on that name.
oh,
That's ridiculous! Besides, 180.035.069.037 is already taken. It spells
"Isotoner gloves" ... everybody knows that.
Dan K
> From: Masataka Ohta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ...
> > (Can we please move this discussion to the IDN list, where it
> > belongs?)
>
> The point is that IDN WG is purposeless and is wrong to exist. Of
> course, it is waste of time to discuss it in IDN list
Masataka Ohta is raising a point of or
Maybe that's why the marketing guys don't laugh at some of our jokes -- by
the time we get to the punchline, they're planning a campaign to promote the
idea! :-)
- Ian King (who actually does respect our marketing folks. Really.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[E
Henning wrote:
> And they would insist that something like
>
> 180.035.069.037
>
> would spell 1-800-Flowers and try to reserve an IP address based on that
> name.
> --
Believe it or not, the SRI NIC did get at least one request for a vanity
IP address around 1988-89. As your example notes, t
John;
> (Can we please move this discussion to the IDN list, where it
> belongs?)
The point is that IDN WG is purposeless and is wrong to exist. Of
course, it is waste of time to discuss it in IDN list. So, the
only reasonable reaction is to ignore it (I dropped improper CC:).
The only necessar
>p.s. the lawyers wouldn't give up so easily...they would simply
>insist that we support IP addresses with octet values greater than 255.
Perhaps it would save us all a lot of grief if we just gave in and
assigned them that address space now. How about moving all lawyers to the
666.0.0.0 subne
Keith Moore wrote:
>
> > If easy-to-type was the original problem we could do away with DNS
> > altogether and just use IP addresses everywhere, that could even get
> > rid of a lot of lawyers...
>
> if it would really get rid of lawyers, it would be well worth it...
>
> Keith
>
> p.s. the law
> If easy-to-type was the original problem we could do away with DNS
> altogether and just use IP addresses everywhere, that could even get
> rid of a lot of lawyers...
if it would really get rid of lawyers, it would be well worth it...
Keith
p.s. the lawyers wouldn't give up so easily...they w
John C Klensin wrote:
>
> --On Wednesday, 06 December, 2000 10:22 -0500 Dan Kolis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Dan K says:
> > 1) your right. with your tld .de I assume for the moment you
> > also speak German. The difference is what you 'try' when a url
> > doesn't work. If you tried:
> >
Hi,
I've read 60 printed pages of the retroactive corresp. about
internationalizing the DNS off the ietf ftp site. Pretty interesting.
My passed around napkin tests to non-technocrats at lunch today was
surprising. No one got even close to an effective proceedure to find a DNS
for the Icelandic i
http://www.ieee802.org/1/pages/802.1x.html
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 8:18
AMTo: end2end-interest@ISI. EDU; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:
Secure "point to point" like connection over Ethernet (not
PPPoE)
I can't agree more.
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From: John C Klensin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 December 2000 16:46
To: vint cerf
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Will Language Wars Balkanize the Web?
(Can we please move this discussion to the IDN list, where it
bel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Kolis) wrote:
> 123.34.56.67 has got to be easier to enter than www.bq--abzw55tnn5zq.se
Yes, but the problem is that the first one represents an IP address,
which is at the addressing level, and can change, while the second
one is at the naming level, as a synonyme to the
(Can we please move this discussion to the IDN list, where it
belongs?)
--On Wednesday, 06 December, 2000 08:19 -0500 vint cerf
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mr. Ohta has put his finger on a key point: ability of all
> parties to generate email addresses, web page URLs and so on.
> Even if we int
--On Wednesday, 06 December, 2000 10:22 -0500 Dan Kolis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dan K says:
> 1) your right. with your tld .de I assume for the moment you
> also speak German. The difference is what you 'try' when a url
> doesn't work. If you tried:
> > http://ßrehct.de
> > and it didn't wor
Is there any work
being done to solve the new situation of home and business users who are no
longer using dial-up's or any other point to point connections like ADSL, ISDN
etc. but instead are using a "shared" switched Ethernet
infrastructure?
What about
applications which are not suitab
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Claus said:
>> http://www.déjà.fr/
>> http://www.deja.fr/
>This is really not new at all. Today, we do already have domains that
>are very similar: foobar.com vs. foo-bar.com vs. foobarr.com vs. ...
>foobar.com vs. foobár.com is not much different.
>Claus
Dan K says:
1) your right. with your
what is important here is the quality of work.
in the end people will refer to the draft using the first author name with the
famous "et al."
_
abbie
Garrett Wollman wrote:
> < said:
>
> > Author(s): B. Aboba, P. Calhoun, S. Glass, T. Hiller,
> > P. McC
Mr. Ohta has put his finger on a key point: ability of all
parties to generate email addresses, web page URLs and so on.
Even if we introduce extended character sets, it seems vital
that there be some form of domain name that can be rendered
(and entered) as simple IA4 characters to assure continu
Claus;
> vint cerf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb/wrote:
> > Incorporating other character sets without deep technical
> > consideration will risk the inestimable value of interworking across
> > the Internet. It CAN be done but there is a great deal of work to make
> > it function properly.
>
> Ho
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