Re: Denial of Service by Spamware?

2000-12-28 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: "Christopher Ambler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Given the duration and frequency of vacation notice abuse from > > users of "Internet Mail Service," the fault is in the software > > instead of those who configure it. > > This is what I mean. You're singling out one product. I just got > a bu

Re: Denial of Service by Spamware?

2000-12-28 Thread Christopher Ambler
> Given the duration and frequency of vacation notice abuse from > users of "Internet Mail Service," the fault is in the software > instead of those who configure it. This is what I mean. You're singling out one product. I just got a bunch of vacation notices. Quite a few looked like this one, be

Re: Denial of Service by Spamware?

2000-12-28 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: "Christopher Ambler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 > > Although I know it's hopeless, I still say the right thing is for the > > IETF to automatically unsubscribe anyone whose mail bears the tell tail > > "X-Mailer: In

Re: Denial of Service by Spamware?

2000-12-28 Thread Christopher Ambler
> Although I know it's hopeless, I still say the right thing is for the > IETF to automatically unsubscribe anyone whose mail bears the tell tail > "X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service". > By tolerating the malware and being "inclusive" of those who insist on > abusing the rest of us with it, the I

Re: Denial of Service by Spamware?

2000-12-28 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... > > Anyone who has posted to the IETF list in the last week or two has > > gotten literally dozens of "out of office notification" messages from > > Microsoft Exchange clients. ... > i'll see ya' and raise ya' o ne better. mailing list owners get th

Re: Denial of Service by Spamware?

2000-12-28 Thread Randy Bush
> Anyone who has posted to the IETF list in the last week or two has > gotten literally dozens of "out of office notification" messages from > Microsoft Exchange clients. You would think the largest application > software provider in the world would understand the difference between > envelope and

Re: Denial of Service by Spamware?

2000-12-28 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > actually, if it is a delivery failure notification, 1123 5.3.3 would seem > to apply. mail bounces are to be sent to the MAIL FROM: not the original > sender. or even if they were sent to the from: we would not see them. > > this has been designed to b

Tool for very basic presentations

2000-12-28 Thread John Stracke
I have a program I wrote a while ago that turns an outline written into HTML into a presentation made up of linked HTML pages. It occurred to me that this might be useful for people who want to do a simple drill-down talk in a WG meeting; the results aren't pretty enough to be distracting, and al