Re: The requirements cycle

2003-07-07 Thread Alex Zinin
Eric, Looking at this from the high-level perspective... Though I became the responsible AD for PPVPN just recently, I was exposed to certain aspects of interaction between ADs are PPVPN WG chairs. There was clearly a communication problem there. I believe it's been solved and we are in

Re: First Timers

2003-07-07 Thread Michael Koehler
i read about that before: draft-001-jabberanal-proposal-001.txt Tomson Eric (Yahoo.fr) wrote: Hey, ShogunX, is that part of your anatomy on http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/images/data.jpg? :))

Re: First Timers

2003-07-07 Thread Ole J. Jacobsen
Bob Is the exception that proves the rule. ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Tel: +1 408-527-8972 GSM: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj

Re: The requirements cycle

2003-07-07 Thread Eric Rosen
Eric> Not sure what you mean, it always takes time to produce a document, Eric> even if the document is just a "rock fetch". Harald> sorry; "rock fetch" is beyond my scope of American idiom. "Rock fetch": when the "boss" sends the workers out on useless but time-consuming tasks.

Re: First Timers

2003-07-07 Thread Clint Chaplin
If this is your 50th IETF, I find it difficult to believe that you haven't seen Bob Moskowitz more than five times Clint (JOATMON) Chaplin >>> "Ole J. Jacobsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/5/03 03:08:33 >>> Rohit, The IETF prides itself on formality. You should be prepared to wear only the finest

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2003-07-07 Thread massaly
 

Re: The requirements cycle (Re: WG review: Layer 2 Virtual....)

2003-07-07 Thread Dave Crocker
Scott, SWB> This is wayyy too abstract and theoretical. Unfortunately, it was intentional. I was sufficiently surprised that anyone would blame the working group for failing to overcome inappropriate barriers, imposed by management that I fell into academic mode, to try to moderate the reactio

Re: First Timers

2003-07-07 Thread John Stracke
Richard Perlman wrote: On 7/5/03 3:08 AM, "Ole J. Jacobsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Casual and comfortable" is a phrase that describes us well. We favor the practical over the formal. Don't believe a word Ole says. I have seen him at many of his 50 IETF meetings and most of the time his T-