Re: Sufficient email authentication requirements for IPv6

2013-04-08 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/8/13 9:18 PM, Douglas Otis wrote: On Mar 31, 2013, at 1:23 AM, Doug Barton > wrote: On 03/30/2013 11:26 PM, Christian Huitema wrote: IPv6 makes publishing IP address reputations impractical. Since IP address reputation has been a primary method for identifyi

Re: Sufficient email authentication requirements for IPv6

2013-04-08 Thread Douglas Otis
On Mar 31, 2013, at 1:23 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 03/30/2013 11:26 PM, Christian Huitema wrote: >>> IPv6 makes publishing IP address reputations impractical. Since IP address >>> reputation has been a primary method for identifying abusive sources with >>> IPv4, imposing ineffective and fl

Re: Comments for Humorous RFCs or uncategorised RFCs or dated April the first

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Braden
On 4/6/2013 2:59 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: On Apr 7, 2013, at 12:33 AM, Ulrich Herberg wrote: Indeed. The wikipedia entry is somewhat misleading though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools%27_Day_RFC "Almost every April Fools' Day (1 April) since 1989, the Internet Engineering Task Force has p

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Yoav Nir
On Apr 8, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Måns Nilsson wrote: > Subject: Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - > IETF April 1 jokes. Date: Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 05:57:54AM -0800 Quoting > Melinda Shore (melinda.sh...@gmail.com): >> I am absolutely not suggesting changing anything

Re: Comments for Humorous RFCs or uncategorised RFCs or dated April the first

2013-04-08 Thread Scott Brim
On 04/08/13 13:35, Lucy Lynch allegedly wrote: > On Mon, 8 Apr 2013, Wes Beebee (wbeebee) wrote: > >> >>> If the date is special then thoes RFCs SHOULD be *historical*. >> >> I thought they should be classified as "hysterical". > > there is an echo (echo) ((echo) ) in here (here) ((here)) IETF h

Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-05

2013-04-08 Thread Richard Barnes
Hi Stewart, I think this resolves my issues. Thanks, --Richard On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote: > On 02/04/2013 15:28, Richard Barnes wrote: > >> Thanks for following up, and for the re-send. Just to be clear, I do not >> mean these as blocking points. >> >> On the forme

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes. Date: Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 05:57:54AM -0800 Quoting Melinda Shore (melinda.sh...@gmail.com): > I am absolutely not suggesting changing anything other than the > unfortunate attitude that the right respo

Re: draft-housley-rfc2050bis-01

2013-04-08 Thread John Curran
On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:06 AM, David Farmer wrote: > 3. Regarding Public WHOIS in section 4; The constituencies and stakeholders > for Public WHOIS are much broader than just the technical community, a number > of constituencies in civil society have legitimate interests in Public WHOIS. > I g

Re: Comments for Humorous RFCs or uncategorised RFCs or dated April the first

2013-04-08 Thread Lucy Lynch
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013, Wes Beebee (wbeebee) wrote: If the date is special then thoes RFCs SHOULD be *historical*. I thought they should be classified as "hysterical". there is an echo (echo) ((echo) ) in here (here) ((here)) - Wes

Re: On the tradition of I-D "Acknowledgements" sections

2013-04-08 Thread Keith Moore
On 03/25/2013 02:05 AM, Melinda Shore wrote: My experience over lo, these many years is that the best way to ensure that you're recognized is to produce text/suggestions/ideas that other people find valuable. +1

RE: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Pat Thaler
RFC 1149 was the first humorous RFC I read and probably the first RFC I read. It was definitely accessible for me as a Layer 1 and 2 IETF outsider. Humorous RFCs can be a nice introduction to the structure of RFCs. Pat From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Meli

Re: draft-housley-rfc2050bis-01

2013-04-08 Thread David Farmer
On 4/7/13 20:34 , Russ Housley wrote: Many of the comments that were posted to this list have been incorporated. Please comment on the updated document. 1. Section 6 and the last paragraph of section 1 are mostly duplicative, I'd suggest eliminating section 6 and merging it into the last pa

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Ted Lemon
On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Melinda Shore mailto:melinda.sh...@gmail.com>> wrote: Your beef isn't with me, it's with Måns. I've got no beef with either of you—I'm a vegetarian! :) (I actually found what Måns had to say valuable, which illustrates one of the great problems of communication: ev

Re: team to look at diversity

2013-04-08 Thread Dave Crocker
Talk about timing! This was in the very next message I looked at: How Internet Fighting Works http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2939#comic d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net

Re: [pkix] Last Call: (X.509 Internet Public Key Infrastructure Online Certificate Status Protocol - OCSP) to Proposed Standard

2013-04-08 Thread Sean Turner
Martin, I went all the way to Sam's original message about his discuss on the draft that became RFC 5019: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pkix/current/msg03627.html and reviewed the 60 or so messages in the thread. Aside: I think when you're referring to "updating" RFC 5019 you're ref

Re: [pkix] Last Call: (X.509 Internet Public Key Infrastructure Online Certificate Status Protocol - OCSP to Proposed Standard

2013-04-08 Thread Sean Turner
On 3/27/13 5:35 PM, Denis wrote: First of all, this is an announcement: I am retiring from Bull at the end of this week, this why I am now using a new email address. Hopefully, you'll still find time in your retirement to keep on PKIXing! The second announcement is that I am taking one full m

Re: team to look at diversity

2013-04-08 Thread Dave Crocker
On 4/1/2013 11:09 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: The most important insight is that diversity is not a "problem" that can be "fixed" by some set of measures, but a process that needs to be ongoing. +1 -- Reducing situations that are perceived as hostile by members of specific groups. -- Wo

Re: Comments for Humorous RFCs or uncategorised RFCs or dated April the first

2013-04-08 Thread Wes Beebee (wbeebee)
>If the date is special then thoes RFCs SHOULD be *historical*. I thought they should be classified as "hysterical". - Wes

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Melinda Shore
I am absolutely not suggesting changing anything other than the unfortunate attitude that the right response to someone missing the joke is to read them out of the meeting/declare them anathema or unworthy or not members of this community. Your beef isn't with me, it's with Måns. Melinda

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Ted Lemon
On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Melinda Shore mailto:melinda.sh...@gmail.com>> wrote: Well, the timing of this strikes me as one of those "oh" moments, following as quickly on the heels of the diversity discussion. Not so much because of language and culture issues (although those are unavoidable)

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Melinda Shore
Well, the timing of this strikes me as one of those "oh" moments, following as quickly on the heels of the diversity discussion. Not so much because of language and culture issues (although those are unavoidable) but because it strikes me as kind of unhealthy to use the April Fool RFCs as a tool t

Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-iid-registry-update-00

2013-04-08 Thread Stewart Bryant
Alvaro Please can you add a line or two of motivation to the draft. I don't think it needs to be major text, but it will be useful to record the reason for the update to the registry. Thanks Stewart On 06/03/2013 15:05, Acee Lindem wrote: I think the draft can talk to the motivation in gener

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Ted Lemon
On Apr 8, 2013, at 4:30 AM, Melinda Shore mailto:melinda.sh...@gmail.com>> wrote: Anyway this strikes me as an unfortunate use of those documents. Although this is not entirely a good thing, it is worth noting that one purpose in creating borders is to lure people across them.

Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-mpls-tp-ethernet-addressing-05

2013-04-08 Thread Stewart Bryant
On 02/04/2013 15:28, Richard Barnes wrote: Thanks for following up, and for the re-send. Just to be clear, I do not mean these as blocking points. On the former point, I might just suggest a minor edit to the introduction: OLD: "This document specifies the options for determination and selec

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes. Date: Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 12:30:30AM -0800 Quoting Melinda Shore (melinda.sh...@gmail.com): > Doesn't it strike you as odd that this discussion has moved towards some > sort of tacit/accepted acknowledg

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Melinda Shore
Doesn't it strike you as odd that this discussion has moved towards some sort of tacit/accepted acknowledgment of the role of joke RFCs as insider/outsider cultural markers rather than just clever bits of writing that are widely enjoyed? I'm a little surprised to find myself developing sympathy fo

Re: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes.

2013-04-08 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Proposed solution for DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) - IETF April 1 jokes. Date: Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 04:58:52PM -0400 Quoting Hector Santos (hsan...@isdg.net): > This is one of those DPEP (Diversity Problem Entry Point) arising > from globalization, April 1 HRC (Humor Recognition