Dotless Domain conflict with user searching and branding [was: IAB Statement on Dotless Domain]

2013-07-14 Thread Hector Santos
On 7/13/2013 2:20 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: So finding your site is not that difficult for first-timers. But regardless, the people who type in addresses or DNS names in full are rare and far between. Agreed. Just to see again, I tried it on my wife's new computer with Chrome and it showed:

Re: Dotless Domain conflict with user searching and branding [was: IAB Statement on Dotless Domain]

2013-07-14 Thread Yoav Nir
On Jul 14, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Hector Santos hsan...@isdg.net wrote: On 7/13/2013 2:20 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: So finding your site is not that difficult for first-timers. But regardless, the people who type in addresses or DNS names in full are rare and far between. Agreed. Just to

Re: Dotless Domain conflict with user searching and branding [was: IAB Statement on Dotless Domain]

2013-07-14 Thread Hector Santos
On 7/14/2013 9:53 AM, Yoav Nir wrote: On Jul 14, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Hector Santos hsan...@isdg.net wrote: On 7/13/2013 2:20 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: So finding your site is not that difficult for first-timers. But regardless, the people who type in addresses or DNS names in full are rare

Re: IAB Statement on Dotless Domains

2013-07-14 Thread Dave Crocker
Reading some of this discussion leaves me puzzled because I can't tell which things that some people are saying are intended to be about dotless use of domains, or are intended to be about the expansion of top level domains in general. Yes, they should be trreated as entirely separate

Re: Regarding call Chinese names

2013-07-14 Thread Hui Deng
Hi Arturo, diffcult for us, english speaking people other than western, Section 4 has been moved. thanks for your comments, -Hui 2013/7/11 Arturo Servin arturo.ser...@gmail.com Great document, I really liked. Same as SM I would suggest change western for something else. And

Re: Regarding call Chinese names

2013-07-14 Thread Hui Deng
will mention this and candidate ways in the next version. thanks, -Hui 2013/7/11 Simon Perreault simon.perrea...@viagenie.ca Le 2013-07-11 02:04, Hui Deng a écrit : We submitted two drafts to help people here to correctly call chinese people names:

Re: Regarding call Chinese names

2013-07-14 Thread Hui Deng
revised to for english speaking people who care thanks -Hui 2013/7/11 Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com On Jul 11, 2013, at 8:14 AM, Hui Deng denghu...@gmail.com wrote: I personally feel that this is maybe one of not easier part for western people to do in today IETF. and chinese's names

Re: Regarding call Chinese names

2013-07-14 Thread Hui Deng
Right, it seems most email addresses are the correct order as far as my email deng...@chinamobile.com denghu...@gmail.com denghu...@hotmail.com -Hui 2013/7/11 Ted Lemon ted.le...@nominum.com On Jul 11, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Simon Perreault simon.perrea...@viagenie.ca wrote: Is there a way

Re: Regarding call Chinese names

2013-07-14 Thread Hui Deng
Hi Stephen, all caps should be included, thanks for your pointint out. for your 85% is one syllable, I guess that normally has two characters for family name, then they will have two syllables? thanks, -Hui 2013/7/11 Stephen Sprunk step...@sprunk.org On 11-Jul-13 08:58, Simon Perreault

Re: Regarding call Chinese names

2013-07-14 Thread Hui Deng
I guess XML draft doesn't support Lǎobǎn thanks for your remindness. -Hui 2013/7/11 Stephen Sprunk step...@sprunk.org On 10-Jul-13 19:04, Hui Deng wrote: We submitted two drafts to help people here to correctly call chinese people names:

Re: Regarding call Chinese names

2013-07-14 Thread Hui Deng
Hi Ted, I did explain them in the 1st paragraph about minorities (not mentioned that they could have two kids in mainland) anyway, I will revise the title by adding Chinese Han people, hope that will be ok -Hui 2013/7/11 Ted Hardie ted.i...@gmail.com Howdy, Thanks for your efforts. I

Re: Regarding call Chinese names

2013-07-14 Thread Hui Deng
I guess that George is your given name. Wes is your family name. Hope I am not wrong.:) -Hui 2013/7/11 George, Wes wesley.geo...@twcable.com From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Shore I agree that this is probably not appropriate for

Re: IAB Statement on Dotless Domains

2013-07-14 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/12/2013 02:40 PM, John R Levine wrote: Point your browser at http://dk/ or http://tm/ and see what happens. As John points out, the ccTLDs are already doing this. ICANN has no authority to tell the ccTLDs NOT to do it, thus restricting the gTLDs from doing it (via their contract with

Re: IAB Statement on Dotless Domains

2013-07-14 Thread Dave Crocker
On 7/14/2013 8:14 PM, Doug Barton wrote: It is unarguably true that as things currently stand there will be problems with dotless domains. How widespread, and how serious those problems become is yet to be seen. However it is also unarguably true that if there is sufficient market demand for

Re: IAB Statement on Dotless Domains

2013-07-14 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/14/2013 08:25 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: On 7/14/2013 8:14 PM, Doug Barton wrote: It is unarguably true that as things currently stand there will be problems with dotless domains. How widespread, and how serious those problems become is yet to be seen. However it is also unarguably true that

Re: where's the data, was IAB Statement on Dotless Domains

2013-07-14 Thread John Levine
In article 51e368f9.70...@dougbarton.us you write: On 07/12/2013 02:40 PM, John R Levine wrote: Point your browser at http://dk/ or http://tm/ and see what happens. As John points out, the ccTLDs are already doing this. ICANN has no authority to tell the ccTLDs NOT to do it, thus restricting

The case of dotless domains (was: Dotless Domain conflict with user searching and branding)

2013-07-14 Thread S Moonesamy
At 06:53 14-07-2013, Yoav Nir wrote: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moonesamy-dotless-domains-00 That memo discusses about the case of the dotless domains in terms of the technical standards. Comments are welcome. At 13:11 13-07-2013, Ofer Inbar wrote: What this brings to mind is that

Welcome to IETF-87!

2013-07-14 Thread IETF Chair
IETF-87 is two weeks away, and I would like to welcome you all to the meeting! The number of registered attendees is trending above all recent meetings, which of course makes me happy. Particularly when I see a large number of newcomers in the registrations. And if you have not registered yet,