URI IPR

2010-05-14 Thread t.petch
Signing up to the URI list, I find it tells me, inter alia, that All IETF Contributions are subject to the rules of RFC 3978 and RFC 3979. Statements made outside of an IETF session, mailing list or other function, that are clearly not intended to be input to an IETF activity, group or function,

Re: URI IPR

2010-05-21 Thread t.petch
'. (And it has not got a web interface, as far as I can see:-(. Tom Petch - Original Message - From: Marshall Eubanks t...@americafree.tv To: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com Cc: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org; Trustees trust...@ietf.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 4:02 PM Subject: Re: URI IPR

Re: IPv4 depletion makes CNN

2010-05-28 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org To: Ofer Inbar c...@a.org Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 12:37 AM The point of the article was to make more people aware of IPv6 and to urge them actually start planning to move to IPv6. I've got IPv6 at home

Contribution Corner Cases was Re: New Trust Copyright FAQ

2010-08-02 Thread t.petch
I am encountering two cases of Contributions where I am uncertain what my rights are. One is when material is not posted directly to an IETF list, rather a URL is provided in an e-mail to a WG list, pointing to a Word or pdf document or a page on a web site. Do the contents of such a document

Re: [dna] Last Call: draft-ietf-dna-simple (Simple procedures for Detecting Network Attachment in IPv6) to Proposed Standard

2010-08-11 Thread t.petch
There is something a bit weird in the IETF e-mail system. The dna list moved from d...@eng.monash.edu.au to d...@ietf.org in June 2008. I changed my address in 2010 (and get a monthly reminder from the IETF to confirm that the change was effective). The i-d-announce for this I-D and the IETF

Finding a patent

2010-08-17 Thread t.petch
I hope that someone can bridge the gap in my understanding between the IETF databases and those of the USPTO. Looking, for example, at http://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1339/ I see Patent, Serial, Publication, Registration, or Application/File number(s): US 12/708048 but when I go to the USPTO to

Re: Finding a patent

2010-08-17 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Stephan Wenger st...@stewe.org To: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com Cc: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 7:54 PM Go here: http://portal.uspto.gov/external/portal/pair Enter the two words of the graphics challenge Of the radio buttons

[DRUMS]

2010-08-23 Thread t.petch
RFC2919 makes reference to [DRUMS] for some of its ABNF but I see no sign of DRUMS in its references (nor is there a relevant erratum). Would that be what became RFC2822? Tom Petch ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: Optimizing for what? Was Re: IETF Attendance by continent

2010-08-31 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Iljitsch van Beijnum iljit...@muada.com To: Olaf Kolkman o...@nlnetlabs.nl Cc: IETF-Discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 10:33 PM On 30 aug 2010, at 21:57, Olaf Kolkman wrote: If you want to be fair to the individual participants you

Re: NAT behavior for IP ID field

2010-09-02 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Iljitsch van Beijnum iljit...@muada.com To: John Kristoff j...@cymru.com Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:53 AM On 31 aug 2010, at 22:04, John Kristoff wrote: I'm trying to locate an RFC that spells out the behavioral requirements,

Re: Review of draft-saintandre-tls-server-id-check

2010-09-06 Thread t.petch
I realise that this thread has moved on to a question of what RFC4985 means (and I agree with the conclusions) but I thought that this post was about to raise a quite different point, that may still need clarifying. see inline Tom Petch - Original Message - From: Bernard Aboba

Re: Review of draft-saintandre-tls-server-id-check

2010-09-08 Thread t.petch
[TP]inline - Original Message - From: Bernard Aboba bernard_ab...@hotmail.com To: daedu...@btconnect.com; ietf@ietf.org; stpe...@stpeter.im Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 8:48 PM That was in fact my original question. Section 5.1 states that the source domain and service type MUST be

Re: Review of draft-saintandre-tls-server-id-check

2010-09-16 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im To: Stefan Santesson ste...@aaa-sec.com Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:16 PM On 9/13/10 12:39 PM, Stefan Santesson wrote: On 10-09-13 6:08 PM, Peter Saint-Andre stpe...@stpeter.im wrote: Hi Shumon, As I see it,

Re: IAOC volunteers (Re: NomCom 2010-2011: Call for More Nominations)

2010-09-17 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Marshall Eubanks t...@americafree.tv To: m...@sap.com Cc: ietf@ietf.org; NomCom Chair nomcom-ch...@ietf.org Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 2:47 AM On Sep 16, 2010, at 8:12 PM, Martin Rex wrote: NomCom Chair wrote: Nominations have slowed down

Re: Fisking vs Top-Posting

2010-09-22 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Martin Rex m...@sap.com To: Randy Dunlap rdun...@xenotime.net Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 7:54 PM Stripping quoted text to the relevant would be a HUGE improvement. Some Mails arrive with quotations that are extremely hard to read,

Re: Call for Community Feedback on Willing Nominees

2010-10-25 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Thomas Walsh twa...@juniper.net To: IETF discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 6:09 PM -Original Message- From: ietf-announce-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-announce-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of NomCom Chair Sent: Monday,

Re: what is the problem bis

2010-10-29 Thread t.petch
As an engineer, I do like to know what problem I am required to solve before proposing a solution:-) My reading of this thread is that the problem is the length of time it takes to produce an RFC of any kind, that vendors are off to the races at the fifth or tenth version of an I-D stage because

Re: what is the problem bis

2010-11-01 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.com To: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com Cc: Keith Moore mo...@network-heretics.com; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:54 PM I am finding this discussion difficult to parse. Here we have a post that says 'I can't

Re: Alternate entry document model (was: Re: IETF processes (wasRe: draft-housley-two-maturity-levels))

2010-11-01 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:39 PM On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 01:20:23PM -0700, SM wrote: It would be difficult to get buy-in if the document is not published as a RFC. Supppse we actually have the

Re: Alternate entry document model (was: Re: IETF processes (wasRe:

2010-11-03 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Yoav Nir y...@checkpoint.com To: m...@sap.com Cc: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 5:08 PM Strange. I look at the same facts, and reach the opposite conclusions. The fact that there were many implementations based

Re: Last Call: draft-salowey-secsh-uri-00.txt (Uniform ResourceIdentifier (URI) Scheme for Secure Shell (SSH)) to Proposed Standard

2010-11-19 Thread t.petch
I am somewhat surprised to see this I-D launched straight into IETF last call. Its predecessor, albeit with a somewhat wider focus, reached -04 in 2006 and I commented thereon on the ssh list. I see my comments have not been addressed in the intervening four years, and think that this I-D would

Re: Wikipedia

2010-12-16 Thread t.petch
I notice that the RFC Editor has a Citations Committee; should they be responding to this issue? Tom Petch - Original Message - From: Andrew Sullivan a...@shinkuro.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: Wikipedia On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at

Re: New Year's Exploration: Changing the Internet's Infrastructure

2011-01-01 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: John Leslie j...@jlc.net To: Richard L. Barnes rbar...@bbn.com Cc: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, December 31, 2010 7:38 PM Richard L. Barnes rbar...@bbn.com wrote: ISTM that the success of changes to the infrastructure depends on the value

Re: Old transport-layer protocols to Historic?

2011-01-07 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Lixia Zhang li...@cs.ucla.edu To: Bob Braden bra...@isi.edu Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 10:08 PM On Jan 6, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Bob Braden wrote: Historic might imply that they were once in service, but have later been

LC changes was Last Call Summaryondraft-yevstifeyev-http-headers-not-recognized

2011-01-08 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de To: Mykyta Yevstifeyev evniki...@gmail.com Cc: i...@ietf.org; ietf-message-head...@ietf.org; IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org; httpbis Group ietf-http...@w3.org Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 12:17 PM On 08.01.2011 11:19,

Re: Old transport-layer protocols to Historic?

2011-01-11 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Brian F. G. Bidulock bidul...@openss7.org To: Mykyta Yevstifeyev evniki...@gmail.com Cc: Bob Hinden bob.hin...@gmail.com; ts...@ietf.org; IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 9:06 AM Mykyta, RDP is still in use (I know of companies

Last Call On draft-yevstifeyev-tn3270-uri-12

2011-01-11 Thread t.petch
tn3270 is a widely used protocol but also a venerable one, so it is a little surprising that the IETF is to register a provisional URI for it at this stage. I have always seen it as an IBM protocol, and while that is no bar to being an RFC - there are plenty of Cisco or Microsoft parallels - I am

Re: Last Call On draft-yevstifeyev-tn3270-uri-12

2011-01-12 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: SM s...@resistor.net To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 2:00 AM At 08:29 11-01-11, t.petch wrote: The provenance of the editor is unknown to me - and of course, once an RFC has been through the IETF processes, then the editorship

Re: author's address (was: Re: Fwd: [OPS-DIR] OPS-DIR Reviewofdraft-yevstifeyev-tn3270-uri-12)

2011-01-14 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Doug Ewell d...@ewellic.org To: The IETF ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 6:56 AM Subject: Re: author's address (was: Re: Fwd: [OPS-DIR] OPS-DIR Reviewofdraft-yevstifeyev-tn3270-uri-12) Peter Saint-Andre wrote: For what it's worth, Section 10 of

Re: Use of unassigned in IANA registries

2011-01-18 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Lars Eggert lars.egg...@nokia.com To: Spencer Dawkins spen...@wonderhamster.org Cc: Iljitsch van Beijnum iljit...@muada.com; Phillip Hallam-Baker hal...@gmail.com; paul.hoff...@vpnc.org; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 3:02 PM On 2011-1-18, at

Re: Use of unassigned in IANA registries

2011-01-19 Thread t.petch
doing when they were granting us the right to use their text. Tom Petch - Original Message - From: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com To: Lars Eggert lars.egg...@nokia.com; Spencer Dawkins spen...@wonderhamster.org Cc: Iljitsch van Beijnum iljit...@muada.com; Phillip Hallam-Baker hal

Last Call: draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Procedures for the Management of the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry) to BCP

2011-01-21 Thread t.petch
I would like to see more clarity in 8.1 For assignments done through IETF-published RFCs, the Contact will be the IESG. in that I am unclear what IETF-published RFCs are; presumably that is Standards Track, BCP and Individual Submissions, but not Independent Submissions or IRTF RFC. I think

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt (InternetAssigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Procedures for the Managementof the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port NumberRegistry) to BCP

2011-01-27 Thread t.petch
And what happens when we have ProtocolX over SSH and ProtocolX over TLS? Must they share a port, with ProtocolX, which has been quietly using its assigned port for 20 years? Tom Petch - Original Message - From: Lars Eggert lars.egg...@nokia.com To: Cullen Jennings flu...@cisco.com;

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt (InternetAssigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Procedures for the Managementof the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port NumberRegistry) to BCP

2011-01-28 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Lars Eggert lars.egg...@nokia.com To: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com Cc: Cullen Jennings flu...@cisco.com; IESG IESG i...@ietf.org; IETF discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:11 PM On 2011-1-27, at 18:58, t.petch wrote: And what

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt (Internet AssignedNumbers Authority (IANA) Proceduresfor the Management of the Service Nameand Transport Protocol Port Number Registry) to BCP

2011-02-02 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Joe Touch to...@isi.edu To: Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org IETF discussion list ietf@ietf.org; ts...@ietf.org; IESG IESG i...@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:39 PM To clarify some of this discussion, providing some context that might be useful:

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt (Internet AssignedNumbers Authority (IANA) Procedures forthe Management of the Service Nameand Transport Protocol Port Number Registry) to BCP

2011-02-02 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org To: Magnus Westerlund magnus.westerl...@ericsson.com Cc: Cullen Jennings flu...@cisco.com; IESG IESG i...@ietf.org; IETF discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:01 PM On 2/1/11 2:14 AM, Magnus

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-16 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: Marc Petit-Huguenin petit...@acm.org To: Bjoern Hoehrmann derhoe...@gmx.net Cc: Stuart Cheshire chesh...@apple.com; IETF-Discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 12:22 AM On 02/15/2011 01:32 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * Stuart Cheshire

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-09.txt (InternetAssigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Procedures for the Managementof the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port NumberRegistry) to BCP

2011-02-16 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: Cullen Jennings flu...@cisco.com To: Christian Huitema huit...@microsoft.com Cc: ts...@ietf.org; Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org; Chris Benson cben...@adax.com; IESG IESG i...@ietf.org; Sam Hartman hartmans-i...@mit.edu; IETF discussion list ietf@ietf.org

Re: [sidr] Last Call: draft-ietf-sidr-arch-11.txt (An Infrastructure to

2011-02-21 Thread t.petch
I find this I-D problematic. The subject matter is of crucial importance, comparable to, or perhaps more important than, IPv6, yet this I-D is not an easy read and there should be one such somewhere. sidr has produced an awesome collection of I-Ds (some now obsolete) but it is not obvious, short

Re: Where to find IETF recommendations?

2011-03-01 Thread t.petch
Shane What I carry with me - used to be on a diskette, now on a stick - is the index to RFC, available from the same source as RFC themselves. Plain text, compact, easy to search. The caveat is you never know whether the people choosing the title of an RFC will have abbreviated a common term

Re: My comments to the press about OAM for MPLS

2011-03-04 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Ross Callon rcal...@juniper.net To: John E Drake jdr...@juniper.net; Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com; Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com Cc: IETF ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:28 PM I have been on several design teams over the years,

Re: My comments to the press about OAM for MPLS

2011-03-07 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Worley, Dale R (Dale) dwor...@avaya.com To: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon) nurit.sprec...@nsn.com; Huubvan Helvoort huubatw...@gmail.com; Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com Cc: IETF ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:09 PM Given

Re: Differences between RFC4944 as distributed by tools.ietf anddatatracker.ietf / rfc-editor

2011-03-28 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Henrik Levkowetz hen...@levkowetz.com To: Mathieu Goessens mathieu.goess...@irisa.fr Cc: adr...@olddog.co.uk; 6low...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org; 'Paul Hoffman' paul.hoff...@vpnc.org; rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 12:34 PM Subject: Re:

Re: IETF and APIs

2011-03-30 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Joe Touch to...@isi.edu To: Sam Hartman hartmans-i...@mit.edu Cc: i...@ietf.org; dcroc...@bbiw.net; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:11 AM Perhaps we're not talking about an API, or even an abstract API, but just the application interface

Re: [paws] WG Review: Protocol to Access White Space database (paws)

2011-04-20 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Joel M. Halpern j...@joelhalpern.com To: Rex Buddenberg bud...@nps.navy.mil Cc: Paul Lambert p...@marvell.com; p...@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; IETF discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 4:17 AM Subject: Re: [paws] WG Review: Protocol to

Re: Last Call: draft-housley-two-maturity-levels-06.txt (Reducingthe Standards Track to Two Maturity Levels) to BCP

2011-05-06 Thread t.petch
I oppose publication of this as an RFC. It is about politics, not about technical matters, and politics is the art of the possible. Even if this proposal succeeds in persuading (most of) the IETF to rethink the meaning of 'Proposed Standard', its impact on the rest of the world will be nil. The

The XML page cannot be displayed

2011-05-20 Thread t.petch
The IANA website has moved on and seems to have left my PC behind. Accessing the registries I get The XML page cannot be displayed Cannot view XML input using style sheet. Please correct the error and then click the Refresh button, or try again later.

Re: The XML page cannot be displayed

2011-05-20 Thread t.petch
offlist - Original Message - From: Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de To: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com Cc: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 3:37 PM Subject: Re: The XML page cannot be displayed On 2011-05-20 14:11, t.petch wrote: The IANA website has moved

Re: one data point regarding native IPv6 support

2011-06-13 Thread t.petch
Another data point from a different and large ISP (and mobile company). Mobile supplier calls. We have this great new broadband offer for you with all these irresistible features. Tom. Does it support IPv6, Internet Protocol version six? Mobile supplier. I will check with my supervisor.

Re: one data point regarding native IPv6 support

2011-06-13 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Nathaniel Borenstein n...@guppylake.com To: Keith Moore mo...@network-heretics.com Cc: John Levine jo...@iecc.com; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:49 PM Just for the record: -- I don't believe that my single experience with first line tech support

Re: one data point regarding native IPv6 support

2011-06-13 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com To: Michel Py mic...@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us Cc: Keith Moore mo...@network-heretics.com; IETF-Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 6:15 PM On Jun 12, 2011, at 12:24 PM, Michel Py wrote: According to this:

Re: Has anyone found a hotel for Quebec City that isn't exorbitant?

2011-06-21 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Mary Barnes mary.ietf.bar...@gmail.com To: John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:02 PM Subject: Re: Has anyone found a hotel for Quebec City that isn't exorbitant? Exactly. Given that we spend most of our days in

Re: Why ask for IETF Consensus on a WG document?

2011-06-24 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org To: The IESG i...@ietf.org Cc: IETF-Discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 12:36 AM Greetings again. The subject line is an honest question, not a gripe. For those on the ietf@ mailing list, please see

Re: Another look at 6to4 (and other IPv6 transition issues)

2011-07-19 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Ronald Bonica rbon...@juniper.net To: Noel Chiappa j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu; ietf@ietf.org Cc: v6...@ietf.org Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 10:20 PM Noel, Given that each of us reads something different into the definition of HISTORIC, is there any hope that

Re: Historic status (was Another look at 6to4 (and other IPv6transitionissues))

2011-07-23 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 5:53 PM Hi - From: Mykyta Yevstifeyev evniki...@gmail.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 3:16 AM Subject: Historic status (was Another look at 6to4

Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic (yet again)

2011-07-26 Thread t.petch
It seems strange that this e-mail is not copied to the v6ops list. I would have expected this first to have been hammered out on the v6ops list and, if and only if consensus was reached there, the new text be then brought to the IETF list. I realise that, as you spell out, you are seeking IETF

Re: draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic (yet again)

2011-07-27 Thread t.petch
I oppose this action. I see clear evidence that 6to4 is damaging the Internet and although there are those who can use it without causing damage, I believe that the principle is 'First, do no harm' so the IETF has a responsibility to discourage its use. For me, classifying it as 'Historic' is

Re: DKIM Signatures now being applied to IETF Email

2011-07-28 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: Sean Turner turn...@ieca.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:09 PM On 7/25/11 2:01 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: On 7/25/2011 1:17 PM, Glen wrote: I am very pleased to report that the IETF is now applying DKIM signatures to all outgoing

Re: DKIM Signatures now being applied to IETF Email

2011-07-29 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: Dave CROCKER d...@dcrocker.net To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:18 PM On 7/28/2011 12:34 PM, t.petch wrote: But more importantly we have abolished the end-to-end principle. If I am going to benefit from improved security on e-mail, I want

Re: DKIM Signatures now being applied to IETF Email

2011-07-30 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org To: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com Cc: ietf ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 5:02 PM I think that it is an error for the IETF to add DKIM signatures. They do indeed tell me which intermediary has sent me the mail

Re: A modest proposal for Friday meeting schedule

2011-08-02 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: David Kessens david.kess...@nsn.com To: Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com Cc: IETF ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:49 PM Russ, On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 11:10:24AM -0400, Russ Housley wrote: I am discussing the possibility with the Secretariat

Re: Drafts Submissions cut-off

2011-08-02 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Keith Moore mo...@network-heretics.com To: Joe Touch to...@isi.edu Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 12:36 AM On Aug 1, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Joe Touch wrote: Not all IDs are discussed at the upcoming IETF. It is inconvenient to need to delay an

Re: DKIM Signatures now being applied to IETF Email

2011-08-02 Thread t.petch
to be controlled? Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of t.petch Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 3:26 AM To: Barry Leiba Cc: ietf Subject: Re: DKIM Signatures now being applied to IETF Email Sadly, I

Re: subject_prefix on IETF Discuss?

2011-08-11 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Martin Rex m...@sap.com To: Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 7:00 AM Barry Leiba wrote: On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Martin Rex m...@sap.com wrote: If one intends to actually *process* close to all of

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-intarea-ipv6-required-01.txt (IPv6Support Required for all IP-capable nodes) to Proposed Standard

2011-08-22 Thread t.petch
I find this document utterly bizarre and think it would seriously damage the Internet to publish it. The idea that ipv6 should be regarded as normal, as of equal standing to ipv4 is fine, the sort of statement that the IAB should make, or have made, as an RFC or in some other form. But this I-D

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-intarea-ipv6-required-01.txt (IPv6Support Required for all IP-capable nodes) to Proposed Standard

2011-08-24 Thread t.petch
tpinline/tp - Original Message - From: George, Wesley wesley.geo...@twcable.com To: ietf@ietf.org; t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com Cc: draft-ietf-intarea-ipv6-requi...@tools.ietf.org Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:12 PM From: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com To: ietf@ietf.org Reply

Re: Hyatt Taipei cancellation policy?

2011-08-25 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Thomas Nadeau tnad...@lucidvision.com To: Alia Atlas akat...@gmail.com Cc: Sam Hartman hartmans-i...@mit.edu; Dave CROCKER dcroc...@bbiw.net; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:39 PM On Aug 24, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Alia Atlas wrote: On Wed, Aug 24,

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2011-08-26 Thread t.petch
Why does the IETF website consider it necessary to use TLS to access the mailing list archives, when they all appeared without it, or any other security, in the first place? Besides all the usual hassle of TLS, today the certificate is reported by IE as expired, which sort of sums it up. Tom

Re: https

2011-08-26 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: SM s...@resistor.net To: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com Cc: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: https Hi Tom, At 00:18 26-08-2011, t.petch wrote: Besides all the usual hassle of TLS, today the certificate is reported by IE as expired, which sort

Re: https

2011-08-26 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Donald Eastlake d3e...@gmail.com To: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com Cc: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 3:43 PM On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 4:39 AM, t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com wrote: - Original Message - From: SM s

Re: https

2011-08-26 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com To: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com Cc: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 4:44 PM Subject: Re: https It doesn't... http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/v6ops/current/maillist.html Try the source of http

Re: https

2011-08-27 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us To: Joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com Cc: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com; IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org; webmas...@ietf.org Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 11:00 PM Subject: Re: https Joel, I don't know what It doesn't is supposed

Re: https

2011-08-27 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Glen Zorn glenz...@gmail.com To: ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com Cc: John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com; IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:29 AM Subject: Re: https On 8/26/2011 11:14 PM, ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote: +1. If you

Re: https

2011-08-27 Thread t.petch
spammers have caught on that TLS should be used everywhere. End to end? Tom Petch - Original Message - From: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com To: Glen Zorn glenz...@gmail.com; ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com Cc: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 10:53 AM Subject: Re

Re: authenticated archives, was https

2011-08-27 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: John Levine jo...@iecc.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:31 PM I can't tell what problem we're trying to solve here. The original question (other than that whoever runs the IETF web site should buy a new cert) seemed to have something to

Re: https

2011-08-29 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com To: Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us Cc: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com; IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org; webmas...@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:55 PM On 8/28/11 11:31 , Joel jaeggli wrote: On 8/26/11 14:00 , Doug Barton

Re: https

2011-08-29 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: Hector Santos hsan...@santronics.com To: Adam Novak interf...@gmail.com Cc: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 8:49 PM Subject: Re: https I see, so as long as its not revoked, if compromised, you are hosed until it expires. I wonder

Re: Pachyderm

2011-09-02 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com To: Yaron Sheffer yaronf.i...@gmail.com Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 11:54 PM can you please explain *why* publishing conformance statements would be such a bad idea? I am not being cynical, I really want to

Re: Minimum Implementation Requirements (Was: 2119bis)

2011-09-02 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Spencer Dawkins spen...@wonderhamster.org To: Melinda Shore melinda.sh...@gmail.com; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:11 PM Hi, Melinda, Can anybody point to an incident in which lack of clarity around 2119 language caused problems, and

Re: 2119bis

2011-09-02 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: George Willingmyre g...@gtwassociates.com To: Mykyta Yevstifeyev evniki...@gmail.com; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 4:00 PM Subject: Re: 2119bis While we are on the topic of definitions I hoped to stimulate thinking and we can reach the

Re: Conclusion of the last call on draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

2011-09-07 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Keith Moore mo...@network-heretics.com To: Ted Hardie ted.i...@gmail.com Cc: ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:55 AM On Sep 6, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Ted Hardie wrote: but it means we are changing out a standard that

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-nfsv4-federated-fs-dns-srv-namespace-08.txt (Using DNS SRV to

2011-09-13 Thread t.petch
I believe that this is the first Last Call since RFC6335 was published to request an entry in the Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry and so a chance to understand how the RFC works in practice. From the proforma in s.8.1.1., I was expecting to see something similar to the

Re: Last Call: draft-melnikov-mmhs-header-fields-04.txt (Registrationof Military Message Handling System (MMHS) header fields foruse in Internet Mail) to Informational RFC

2011-09-15 Thread t.petch
I notice that section 3, to which IANA are directed, contains many formulations such as Specification document(s): [[anchor14: this document]] Would I be right in thinking that this is what other documents would refer to as RFC -- Note to RFC-Editor - replace RFC by the RFC Number

Re: Pre-IETF RFCs to Historic (not really proposing)

2011-09-16 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Cyrus Daboo cy...@daboo.name To: Keith Moore mo...@network-heretics.com; Ronald Bonica rbon...@juniper.net Cc: Scott O Bradner s...@harvard.edu; IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 4:52 PM Hi Keith, --On September 16, 2011 10:10:06

Re: Fwd: [81all] Quick Meeting Survey

2011-09-21 Thread t.petch
Interesting too that the questions about future attendance mention the sponsor, as if our decision should be predicated upon who is sponsoring the event. And, in the reasons for non-attendance, it is a shame, in the light of recent discussions on this list, that 'cost' is not broken down into -

Re: Need help tracking down problem accessing IETF Subversionrepository on Mac OS X

2011-09-27 Thread t.petch
--- Original Message - From: Yoav Nir y...@checkpoint.com To: Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org Cc: Stuart Cheshire chesh...@apple.com; IETF-Discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 10:11 PM On Sep 26, 2011, at 5:25 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Sep 25, 2011, at 7:20

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-pim-port-08.txt (A Reliable TransportMechanism for PIM) to Experimental RFC

2011-09-27 Thread t.petch
The choice of service name for this transport seems unfortunate; having a port number registry with a service in it called 'port' may be witty but seems like a source of future confusion. I notice that IANA currently have a service name of 'pim-port' which seems a better idea and one that I think

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt(The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM)to Informational RFC

2011-10-04 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Scott O Bradner s...@sobco.com To: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:30 PM I'm having a hard time understanding just what this document is trying to do Scott Provide another instalment in the long running and yet-to-be

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (TheReasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) toInformational RFC

2011-10-05 Thread t.petch
I oppose publication of this I-D in its present form. The idea of having an I-D that says two OAM solutions will cost is fine, but there are too many technical errors, especially in sections 4 and 5 (better as Brian suggested as appendices), for it to go forward as it stands. Huub, Malcolm and

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (TheReasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) toInformational RFC

2011-10-05 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Loa Andersson l...@pi.nu To: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 1:46 PM Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (TheReasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt(TheReasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM)toInformational RFC

2011-10-05 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: Stewart Bryant stbry...@cisco.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 2:01 PM Tom I would take issue with OSPF/ISIS and IPv4/IPv6. Stewart See my reply to Loa for the first. For IPv4/IPv6, we are not talking about two solutions which are

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt(The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) toInformational RFC

2011-10-07 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Huub van Helvoort huubatw...@gmail.com To: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 8:47 AM All, Section 1.1 contains the following text: An analysis of the technical options for OAM solutions was carried out by a design team (the MEAD team)

Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Drafts

2011-10-08 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: Frank Ellermann hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkzt...@gmail.com To: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com Cc: ietf@ietf.org; joe...@bogus.com Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 12:32 AM On 7 October 2011 11:36, t.petch wrote: No thousands of .gif to spend ages downloading

Re: Re: watersprings.org archive of expired Internet Drafts

2011-10-10 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: Julian Reschke julian.resc...@gmx.de To: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com Cc: Frank Ellermann hmdmhdfmhdjmzdtjmzdtzktdkzt...@gmail.com; ietf@ ietf.org Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2011 3:07 PM On 2011-10-08 09:20, t.petch wrote: If I'm looking for an internet

Re: size of the XML of IANA ports

2011-10-13 Thread t.petch
Joe When I access it, I see a 3.08Mbyte .xml file in temporary storage. Interestingly, the text variant is still 2.7Mbyte. My access time is variable. When I first used the xml file, the access time was always in minutes, time to make a coffee, come back and continue waiting. Now it is

Re: Last Call draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt(The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) toInformational RFC

2011-10-18 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Yaakov Stein yaako...@rad.com To: Ross Callon rcal...@juniper.net; Rolf Winter rolf.win...@neclab.eu; Stephen Kent k...@bbn.com; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:09 PM The IETF has a very long history of pushing back on multiple redundant

DKIM delays

2011-10-21 Thread t.petch
I notice that e-mail via this ietf list is being delayed with respect to mail to a working group list at or around the time of DKIM processing. Thus to the mpls list, the mail travels at the speed of light Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with

Re: DKIM delays

2011-10-25 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com To: Alessandro Vesely ves...@tana.it Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:59 AM Subject: Re: DKIM delays The long delays are not due to DKIM. These happen when a message to a mail list gets held for

Re: Requirement to go to meetings

2011-10-25 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Melinda Shore melinda.sh...@gmail.com To: dcroc...@bbiw.net Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Requirement to go to meetings On 10/22/11 10:26 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: So the question is how to move the center of gravity

Re: Requirement to go to meetings

2011-10-25 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: John Leslie j...@jlc.net To: John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:46 PM John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com wrote: --On Sunday, October 23, 2011 07:05 -0700 Murray S. Kucherawy m...@cloudmark.com wrote: ... I

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