Re: leader statements

2013-10-10 Thread manning bill
the leaders are there to inform and moderate the discussion and where possible, indicate that consensus has been reached (or not).when leaders speak out on behalf of organization -particularly- this organization and they are _NOT_ relaying the consensus of the group at large, they have

Re: leader statements (was: Montevideo statement)

2013-10-10 Thread manning bill
On 10October2013Thursday, at 1:30, SM wrote: At 12:27 09-10-2013, Andrew Sullivan wrote: Now, there is indeed a possible issue, and that is that these chairs were attending a chief officer-type meeting: there were CEOs and so on, and (presumably by analogy) the chairs got invited to

Re: Montevideo statement

2013-10-08 Thread manning bill
I think the US executive branch would be better rid of the control before the vandals work out how to use it for mischief. But better would be to ensure that no such leverage exists. There is no reason for the apex of the DNS to be a single root, it could be signed by a quorum of

Re: Montevideo statement

2013-10-08 Thread manning bill
On 8October2013Tuesday, at 6:19, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:53 AM, manning bill bmann...@isi.edu wrote: I think the US executive branch would be better rid of the control before the vandals work out how to use it for mischief. But better would

Re: WG Review: Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery (dnssd)

2013-10-03 Thread manning bill
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - dnssdext-requ...@ietf.org (reason: 550 5.1.1 dnssdext-requ...@ietf.org: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual alias table) On 3October2013Thursday, at 8:42, The IESG wrote: A new IETF working group has been

Re: WG Review: Extensions for Scalable DNS Service Discovery (dnssd)

2013-10-03 Thread manning bill
but the To Subscribe pointer is busted…. /bill On 3October2013Thursday, at 11:43, Tim Chown wrote: On 3 Oct 2013, at 18:07, manning bill bmann...@isi.edu wrote: - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - dnssdext-requ...@ietf.org (reason: 550 5.1.1 dnssdext-requ

Re: not really pgp signing in van

2013-09-10 Thread manning bill
perhaps you remember the Comodo CA fraud problem? http://arstechnica.com/security/2011/03/how-the-comodo-certificate-fraud-calls-ca-trust-into-question/ /bill On 10September2013Tuesday, at 14:47, John R Levine wrote: You go to a Web page that has the HTML or Javascript control for generating

Re: decentralization of Internet (was Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA

2013-09-06 Thread manning bill
hum… i did work on a DNS architecture that can be fully disconnected from the Internet and still work with nodes within the visible topology. Needs serious rework of DNSSEC and has some assumptions about topology discovery - but it might be a basis for starting some discussion

Re: An IANA Registry for DNS TXT RDATA (I-D Action: draft-klensin-iana-txt-rr-registry-00.txt)

2013-08-31 Thread manning bill
given the nature of the TXT RR, in particular the RDATA field, I presume it is the path of prudence to set the barrier to registration in this new IANA registry to be -VERY- low. Or is the intent to create a two class system, registered and unregistered types? /bill On 30August2013Friday, at

Fwd: [dnsext] SPF isn't going to change, was Deprecating SPF

2013-08-23 Thread manning bill
Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com From: bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com Subject: Re: [dnsext] SPF isn't going to change, was Deprecating SPF Date: August 23, 2013 10:03:26 PDT Resent-To: bmann...@isi.edu To: John Levine jo...@taugh.com Cc: dns...@ietf.org

Re: IETF 88 - Registration Now Open!

2013-08-23 Thread manning bill
and the hotel is fully booked…. /bill On 23August2013Friday, at 6:36, IETF Secretariat wrote: 88th IETF Meeting Vancouver, BC, Canada November 3-8, 2013 Host: Huawei Meeting venue: Hyatt Regency Vancouver: http://vancouver.hyatt.com/en/hotel/home.html Register online at:

Re: [dnsext] SPF isn't going to change, was Deprecating SPF

2013-08-23 Thread manning bill
On 23August2013Friday, at 11:04, John Levine wrote: Nobody has argued that SPF usage is zero, and the reasons for deprecating SPF have been described repeatedly here and on the ietf list, so this exercise seems fairly pointless. the reasons for not deprecating SPF have been described

Re: [iaoc-rps] RPS Accessibility

2013-08-07 Thread manning bill
would this mandate wearing badges only in certain locations, e.g. over the left breast? /bill On 6August2013Tuesday, at 23:26, Riccardo Bernardini wrote: Just thinking out aloud What about a web-cam (maybe a wireless one? Never tried to use them...) right under the mic, so that it

Re: 6tsch BoF

2013-08-01 Thread manning bill
we have never voted at IETFs. we believe in rough consensus and running code /bill On 1August2013Thursday, at 2:14, A ndy Bierman wrote: Hi, Isn't it obvious why humming is flawed and raising hands works? (Analog vs. digital). A hand is either raised or it isn't. The sum of all hands

Re: IETF registration fee?

2013-07-10 Thread manning bill
you are not allowed to register for two days. /bill On 10July2013Wednesday, at 9:01, Paul Aitken wrote: Can you help me understand why the One Day Pass rate ($350) is so high compared with the full week rate ($650 / $800)? Registering for two days could cost more than a week! Surely

Re: Not Listening to the Ops Customer (was Re: Issues in wider geographic participation)

2013-05-31 Thread manning bill
amen! :) On 31May2013Friday, at 17:23, Randy Bush wrote: rant the sad fact is that the ietf culture is often not very good at listening to the (ops) customer. look at the cf we have made out of ipv6. the end user, and the op, want the absolute minimal change and cost, let me get an

Re: When to adopt a WG I-D

2013-05-28 Thread manning bill
there is also the not uncommon event where an idea starts as an individual idea, moves into a WG, is rejected by the WG, becomes an individual idea, is picked up by another WG, rejected, (lather, rinse, repeat), and then the -right- WG is formed and it is processed that way. In the current

Re: Deployment of standards compliant nameservers

2013-05-20 Thread manning bill
I believe that there are a couple of problems with this plea… 1) - The IETF has -never- tested for or assured compliance with their document series. 2) - The only DNS test suite I am aware of is the older TAHI test suite from http://www.tahi.org/ - which was focused on IPv6 development and is

Re: Deployment of standards compliant nameservers

2013-05-20 Thread manning bill
: In message 6a13ceb4-8906-4ec5-9210-571d5474e...@isi.edu, manning bill writes: I believe that there are a couple of problems with this plea. 1) - The IETF has -never- tested for or assured compliance with their document series. Which has what to do with requesting that a known problem get fixed

Re: IETF Diversity Question on Berlin Registration?

2013-04-17 Thread manning bill
On 17April2013Wednesday, at 12:45, SM wrote:At 04:54 17-04-2013 it was written:Is it true that you are really Professor Irwin Corey?As I was unfamiliar with the above I looked it up.From RFC 3184: "The work of the IETF relies on cooperation among a broad cultural diversity of peoples, ideas, and

Re: IETF Diversity Question on Berlin Registration?

2013-04-17 Thread manning bill
On 17April2013Wednesday, at 12:45, SM wrote: At 04:54 17-04-2013 it was written: Is it true that you are really Professor Irwin Corey? As I was unfamiliar with the above I looked it up. From RFC 3184: The work of the IETF relies on cooperation among a broad cultural diversity of