would this mandate wearing badges only in certain locations, e.g. over the left 
breast?

/bill


On 6August2013Tuesday, at 23:26, Riccardo Bernardini wrote:

> Just thinking out aloud....
> 
> What about a web-cam (maybe a wireless one? Never tried to use
> them...) right under the mic, so that it takes a picture of the badge
> and shows it on the screen?  Everyone (right?) in a meeting has a
> badge  wit his/her/its :) name and affiliation, so privacy concerns
> are just comparable to those of wearing a badge.
> 
> Of course, this is not applicable to jabber participants, in that case
> you need a different solution.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Henning Schulzrinne <h...@cs.columbia.edu> 
> wrote:
>> Yes, a group from my lab did this, using short-range RFID. (The range was 
>> about 1-2 inches.) It required a bit of a setup which made it hard to 
>> replicate at scale, but it worked reasonably well.
>> 
>> Privacy concerns are an issue, but you'd have to be very close to the person 
>> to sense the card (and you can obviously leave it behind any time you'd want 
>> to) - it would be much more convenient to track people using BlueTooth or 
>> WiFi MAC addresses, if you'd be so inclined, or just use video cameras. Yes, 
>> you can use long-range directional antennas to increase your read range, but 
>> those would be rather hard to hide. As was mentioned, the hotel room cards 
>> use very much the same technology, and you can't really leave them behind 
>> when you leave the building.
>> 
>> Henning
>> 
>> On Aug 5, 2013, at 5:15 AM, Dan York <y...@isoc.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On the topic of badge-sensing at the mic, I seem to recall that we had this 
>>> working at an IETF sometime back in the RAI working groups. It was maybe 4 
>>> or 5 years ago and I think it may have been some student(s) under Henning 
>>> Schulzrinne at Columbia... but I am not sure about that.  I remember that 
>>> when you went to the mic you put your badge up to this sensor and your name 
>>> appeared in the jabber room. We used it in several of the RAI sessions at 
>>> that IETF. Unfortunately I don't remember how well it worked or why it 
>>> wasn't continued. There may be someone out there who can provide some 
>>> insight. (And if it was Henning's students we can just drop him a note.)
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "Paul Aitken" <pait...@cisco.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've remotely participated in several IETFs.
>>>> 
>>>> I find that the biggest problem with remote attendance is the lack of 
>>>> visual cues. I've come to realise just how important these are in a 
>>>> meeting.
>>>> -are people paying attention, are they interested / confused / distracted 
>>>> / bored?
>>>> 
>>>> Also there's no way for local attendees (in the WG room) to know that 
>>>> remote attendees are "at the mic" and whose turn it is to speak.
>>>> 
>>>> There's been some discussion on the "87attendees" mailer about badge 
>>>> sensing at the mic - whether QR codes, NFC, or RFID. This could help 
>>>> remote attendees too.
>>>> 
>>>> eg, see what they did with NFC + mic here: 
>>>> http://www.5thbar.me/blog/2012/09/14/nfc-enabled-badges-at-the-5thbar-mobile-marketing-forum/
>>>> 
>>>> P.
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