IETF Travel Woes (was Deja Vu)
London is well known to be one of the most expensive cities in the world for hotel accommodation. It would be a bad thing if clue was excluded because of the total cost of a meeting being very high. But hopefully IETF attendies are of the mindset that can forgo the ensuite hotel room for BB accomodation or the like. London is going to be interesting as we're going to be there at the peak of the holiday season, when accomodation rates are at their highest and room availability is at its lowest. For travel planning purposes it's important to me that the location of the London meeting be announced as early as possible. I doubt very much I'll be staying in the conference hotel (or anywhere near it), which means I need to book alternate accomodation as early as possible. (BTW, if you want to reproduce the Minneapolis-in-winter experience in Europe, I highly recommend Brighton in February.) Also, to follow up on (I think it was) Melinda's comments about airfare costs, I'll note that a return ticket for Edmonton-Minneapolis (a 2.5 hour flight) was just under CAD$1700. A return ticket for Edmonton-London (about 9 hours) can be had for around CAD$900. --lyndon
Re: IETF Travel Woes (was Deja Vu)
Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: [..] But hopefully IETF attendies are of the mindset that can forgo the ensuite hotel room for BB accomodation or the like. In my experience IETF attendees care little about the room itself, only that it is within short(ish) walking distance of the meetings rooms, hallways, and bars wherein which their work is getting done. Far-flung-yet-cheap accomodation is false economy for those there to work. cheers, gja
Re: IETF Travel Woes (was Deja Vu)
Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: For travel planning purposes it's important to me that the location of the London meeting be announced as early as possible. I doubt very much I'll be staying in the conference hotel (or anywhere near it), which means I need to book alternate accomodation as early as possible. (BTW, if you want to reproduce the Minneapolis-in-winter experience in Europe, I highly recommend Brighton in February.) --lyndon Cost of a ticket from SF is approximately $1100US right now. Can't say which way it's going, given the economy and hoof and mouth disease, but if last year's silliness was any predictor, prices peaked at around $3000US for two week advance fare.
Re: IETF Travel Woes (was Deja Vu)
Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: But hopefully IETF attendies are of the mindset that can forgo the ensuite hotel room for BB accomodation or the like. [...] For travel planning purposes it's important to me that the location of the London meeting be announced as early as possible. I doubt very much I'll be staying in the conference hotel (or anywhere near it), which means I need to book alternate accomodation as early as possible. But, if you're not going to be staying in the conference hotel, you have more options, and you can book without knowing precisely where the conference hotel is. -- /\ |John Stracke| http://www.ecal.com |My opinions are my own. | |Chief Scientist |===| |eCal Corp. |"Your reality, sir, is lies balderdash, and I| |[EMAIL PROTECTED]|am pleased to say I have no grasp on it| ||whatsoever!" --Baron Munchausen| \/
Re: IETF Travel Woes (was Deja Vu)
But, if you're not going to be staying in the conference hotel, you have more options, and you can book without knowing precisely where the conference hotel is. But to do that sanely I want to be within walking distance of a tube station that's on a direct line to the conference venue, thus the need for it's location. --lyndon
Re: IETF Travel Woes (was Deja Vu)
I agreegja I ask for a bed, which is clean and a shower with hot water. The room needs to be rather close to a bar. (for working purposes of course). In all other circumstances, I carry a Leatherman, thus quick repairs and modifications are not too far fetched. (ie: shower heads that are restricted with low pressure flow restriction valves) ((upgrading from 10BaseT to gigE so to speak :-D )) Regards- Jasen Strutt - Original Message - From: "grenville armitage" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Lyndon Nerenberg" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 2:24 PM Subject: Re: IETF Travel Woes (was Deja Vu) Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: [..] But hopefully IETF attendies are of the mindset that can forgo the ensuite hotel room for BB accomodation or the like. In my experience IETF attendees care little about the room itself, only that it is within short(ish) walking distance of the meetings rooms, hallways, and bars wherein which their work is getting done. Far-flung-yet-cheap accomodation is false economy for those there to work. cheers, gja
Re: IETF Travel Woes (was Deja Vu)
From: Lyndon Nerenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: IETF Travel Woes (was Deja Vu) Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:30:30 -0700 [...] (BTW, if you want to reproduce the Minneapolis-in-winter experience in Europe, I highly recommend Brighton in February.) [...] Just for the record, the IETF has never met in Minnesota in winter. Apparently, even highly evolved (or adapted, or something) Southern Californians without jackets managed to survive a week at the Minnesota (not in winter) IETF, something that wouldn't necessarily be true during a real Minnesota winter. (Actually, this aspect of the climate is generally regarded as a "feature"; something about "Keeps the riff-raff out", or something like that.) Of course, it's trying to snow today. Never mind... -tjs