Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-18 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
IETF standards should never attempt to solve a technical issue by changing human behavior. It is futile. And it suggests that the dvelopers are more important than users. This is a bug in the technology. Fix it. Sent from my iPad On Feb 15, 2011, at 13:32, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: > * Stuar

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-18 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Stuart Cheshire wrote: >On my 30-inch displays your hard-wrapped text appears as a thin >narrow ribbon of text no matter how wide the window is, and on my >phone your hard-wrapped lines are too long to fit so they get re- >wrapped to that charming long/short/long/short pattern so >characte

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-17 Thread Doug Barton
On 02/17/2011 23:03, Carsten Bormann wrote: On Feb 15, 2011, at 21:46, Stuart Cheshire wrote: (readable E-Mail) How did you manage to get Apple Mail to properly use RFC 3676, i.e. ; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" on the Content-Type? Apple broke that in 10.6, IIRC. (Not that solving t

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-17 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Feb 15, 2011, at 21:46, Stuart Cheshire wrote: (readable E-Mail) How did you manage to get Apple Mail to properly use RFC 3676, i.e. ; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" on the Content-Type? Apple broke that in 10.6, IIRC. (Not that solving this problem on the sender side would solve it

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-17 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu
On 17 Feb 2011, at 20:34, Stuart Cheshire wrote: > On 15 Feb, 2011, at 13:32, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: >> That is the result of some clients and users violating netiquette and mail >> standards, for instance, RFC 1855, section 2.1.1: >> >> - Limit line length to fewer than 65 characters and end a

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-17 Thread Cyrus Daboo
Hi Randy, --On February 17, 2011 3:04:02 PM -0800 Randy Presuhn wrote: Assuming you have ASCII key board, 80-column assumption is reasonable. For reasonable devices, I would agree. But the use case cited is for people are using devices with display capabilities which are in some respects

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-17 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - > From: "Masataka Ohta" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 2:14 PM > Subject: Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping ... > But, when plain text is good enough, we use plain text. > > Assuming you have ASCII key board, 80-column assumption is > reas

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-17 Thread Masataka Ohta
Stuart Cheshire wrote: >> - Limit line length to fewer than 65 characters and end a line >> with a carriage return. > > I'm sure that was all wonderful back in the century of teletypes and (if > you were very lucky) a 80-column VT100 terminal, but these days I read > email on devices ranging fr

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-16 Thread t.petch
Original Message - From: "Marc Petit-Huguenin" To: "Bjoern Hoehrmann" Cc: "Stuart Cheshire" ; "IETF-Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 12:22 AM > > On 02/15/2011 01:32 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: > > * Stuart Cheshire wrote: > >> In the MHonArc mail archive there are of

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-15 Thread Marc Petit-Huguenin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/15/2011 01:32 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: > * Stuart Cheshire wrote: >> In the MHonArc mail archive there are often super-long lines, which >> would be wrapped to the window width when viewing in most mail >> clients, but when viewed in a web

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-15 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Stuart Cheshire wrote: >In the MHonArc mail archive there are often super-long lines, which >would be wrapped to the window width when viewing in most mail >clients, but when viewed in a web browser they appear as long single >lines which take a lot of left-to-right scrolling to read them.

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-15 Thread RJ Atkinson
Earlier, Stuart Chesire wrote: > In the MHonArc mail archive there are often super-long lines, which would be > wrapped to the window width when viewing in most mail clients, but when > viewed in a web browser they appear as long singlelines which take a lot of > left-to-right scrolling to read

Re: MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-15 Thread Lixia Zhang
good catch of the problem. I suffered when I read IETF email on the web. Would be great to see this fixed. Lixia On Feb 15, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Stuart Cheshire wrote: > In the MHonArc mail archive there are often super-long lines, which would be > wrapped to the window width when viewing in mos

MHonArc mail archive line wrapping

2011-02-15 Thread Stuart Cheshire
In the MHonArc mail archive there are often super-long lines, which would be wrapped to the window width when viewing in most mail clients, but when viewed in a web browser they appear as long single lines which take a lot of left-to-right scrolling to read them. For example: