Marshall Eubanks wrote:
For this thread, perhaps you meant "you have been warmed."
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Jari Arkko wrote:
>> Please save the planet by working on a better Internet, not
>> by posting to an off-topic mail thread.
Perhaps the IETF should consider purchasing carbon credits for each
standards track document produced :)
Darryl (Dassa) Lynch
Please save the planet by working on a better Internet, not
by posting to an off-topic mail thread.
Jari
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Here we go
Copious amounts of data...graphs...formulas...models...scientists
predicting doom and humans are the cause. Where have I heard this before?
Oh yea, the Club of Rome. Their copious amounts of data, graphs, models
and formulas, predicted mass starvation and that economic growt
On Oct 12, 2007, at 11:24 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
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I asked James this privately, but if we're going to get into an off-
topic discussion of global warming, I'll ask it publicly to whoever
has a good answer.
We all agree that global warming is ha
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I asked James this privately, but if we're going to get into an off-
topic discussion of global warming, I'll ask it publicly to whoever
has a good answer.
We all agree that global warming is happening. If you go to the
terminal moraine, the f
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Mr Chairman, I have a suggestion. I suggest that we have a BOF at the
next IETF on heat transfer issues, and subsequently open a working
group. It can deal with this issue right after it solves the leakage
current problem in fine lithography sil
> Here is an interesting optimization problem: it turns out the
> most polluting part of a conference is people taking jets to
> fly to the conference. Minimize that and the planet wins.
Simple solution. Only allow people to attend if they take a train or bus
to the conference. Enforce this b
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> > From: Dan Harkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 5:03 PM
> > To: James M. Polk
> > Cc: ietf@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: Travel Considerations
> >
> >
> > Hi James,
> >
> > I th
lk
> Cc: ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Travel Considerations
>
>
> Hi James,
>
> I think you're missing the point. I'm not advocating being wasteful
> because everyone else is. I'm saying that this effort is futile and
> will not result in _any_ "win&q
Hi James,
I think you're missing the point. I'm not advocating being wasteful
because everyone else is. I'm saying that this effort is futile and
will not result in _any_ "win" for the planet. Your analogy to driving
an SUV is incorrect because not driving the SUV (or driving an
electric car
On 10/12/07 3:31 PM, "Eric Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Time out for station identification; this is the "Internet
> Engineering Task Force."
I tend to think of it as at least in part an engineering question.
Obvious questions about tradeoffs and whatnot, and then the question
of engineering
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 3:18 PM
> To: Dan Harkins; Eric Burger
> Cc: ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Travel Considerations
>
> Unfortunately, using this logic -- I can buy a tank and get 2
> gallons-to-the-mile mileage because the rest of the planet (or at
> leas
Unfortunately, using this logic -- I can buy a tank and get 2
gallons-to-the-mile mileage because the rest of the planet (or at
least America) is still buying SUVs that get horrible mileage too,
since there will be nearly an unmeasurable difference to global
warming if I drive my tank or not...
Eric Burger wrote:
Here is an interesting optimization problem: it turns out the most
polluting part of a conference is people taking jets to fly to the
conference. Minimize that and the planet wins. Favors hub cities over
spokes, like San Diego or Prague, where you "can't get there from here
You're assuming that if 1000 people decide not to fly to Prague
some weekend that the number of planes burning jet fuel to fly there
will be different. I don't think so.
Maybe you can start a "Boycott Prague The Spoke City" campaign which,
if wildly successful, will reduce demand to fly there
On Oct 12, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Eric Burger wrote:
Here is an interesting optimization problem: it turns out the most
polluting part of a conference is people taking jets to fly to the
conference. Minimize that and the planet wins. Favors hub cities
over
spokes, like San Diego or Prague, wh
ade> for what lemonade is.
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From: Stewart Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Eric Burger
Cc: ietf@ietf.org
Sent: Fri Oct 12 07:59:42 2007
Subject: Re: Travel Considerations
Eric Burger wrote:
>
> See http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/318/5847/36.pdf
&
Eric Burger wrote:
See http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/reprint/318/5847/36.pdf
Which seems to be only available to those prepared to pay.
Stewart
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Here is an interesting optimization problem: it turns out the most
polluting part of a conference is people taking jets to fly to the
conference. Minimize that and the planet wins. Favors hub cities over
spokes, like San Diego or Prague, where you "can't get there from here",
no matter where "her
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