From: Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us
their work has been ignored and/or shouted down since it doesn't fit
the narrative.
The usual fate of those who care more about the data than the herd-meme of the
moment. For a good example of this in action, those who are unfamiliar with
the
I'm fine with this text.
Either with eap-lower-layer as a MUST or the more complex version.
Hi Matt,
I currently writing a position paper but I'm travel tomorrow and over the
weekend and am not sure if I will be able to finish the paper today. Is it
maybe possible to submit the paper a couple days later?
Mirja
On Friday 14 June 2013 10:42:43 Matthew Ford wrote:
Possibly of
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Noel Chiappa j...@mercury.lcs.mit.eduwrote:
From: Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us
their work has been ignored and/or shouted down since it doesn't fit
the narrative.
The usual fate of those who care more about the data than the herd-meme of
On Jun 19, 2013, at 9:29 AM, joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote:
Given that this document was revved twice and had it's requested status
change during IETF last call in response to discussion criticism and new
contribution I am going to rerun the last call.
I reviewed this version and I
There was an intent to have a virtual meeting of the JOSE WG on
2013-06-17. The announcement never made it to the IETF announce list.
Because of this that virtual meeting is considered a design team meeting
and not an official virtual interim meeting. As such, all output is
subject to
Keep in mind that you're talking to an organisation that believes that
Vancouver qualifies as Asia.
On 19/06/2013, at 12:07 PM, SM s...@resistor.net wrote:
Hi Aaron,
At 11:40 19-06-2013, Aaron Yi DING wrote:
Relating to the statement above(I assume Phillip is addressing the US
Academia),
Olafur,
Based on reviewing the current draft and the handling of my
objections and other of others to the prior ones, I agree that
the document is ready for publication.
However, I feel a need to comment on one of your observations
below because it seems to lie at the core of why this
I think this is ok, but my email client isn't distinguishing the new vs. old
text.
If it's just changes to produce this new bullet, I have a small edit:
o Channel binding MUST be used for all application authentication.
The EAP server MUST either require that the correct EAP lower-layer
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:17:16AM -0400, John C Klensin wrote:
So some review of the DNSEXT-specified procedures and
expectations may be in order.
I encourage you, then, to organize the BOF session that will spin up
the WG to achieve this. DNSEXT is only still alive because our last
Below is the current validated list of volunteers for Nomcom
2013. If your name has a *, I'm waiting for a message back
from you.
Big thanks to everyone who has volunteered!
Now what are the rest of you waiting for?
We still need quite a few to get up to 200 volunteers.
Please reply and
On 06/20/2013 09:36 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:17:16AM -0400, John C Klensin wrote:
So some review of the DNSEXT-specified procedures and
expectations may be in order.
I encourage you, then, to organize the BOF session that will spin up
the WG to achieve this.
On Jun 20, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote:
Perhaps we could have a non-WG mailing list so that people could submit
proposals for review prior to the expert review process. Even some of the
get off my lawn crowd offered good suggestions for this EUI case (make 1
On 6/20/13 10:04 AM, Doug Barton wrote:
I agree with at least a little of what each of Olafur, John, and
Andrew have said; but I think there's a middle ground between throw
the doors wide open and everything we have tried before didn't
work. At least I hope there is.
Well recall that we
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:04:54AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
Perhaps we could have a non-WG mailing list so that people could
submit proposals for review prior to the expert review process.
The WG list isn't going away with the WG. The list is explicitly
called out as a good place to try out
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 05:10:20PM +, Ted Lemon wrote:
You mean like namedroppers?
If only we still had that list. Alas, it was the victim of politics.
Perhaps Randy Bush will bring it back to life.
A
--
Andrew Sullivan
a...@anvilwalrusden.com
On 06/20/2013 10:27 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 10:04:54AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote:
Perhaps we could have a non-WG mailing list so that people could
submit proposals for review prior to the expert review process.
The WG list isn't going away with the WG. The list is
Thank you Bob and the IAOC for taking the time to analize the
possiblities of a meeting outside North America, Europe and Asia.
Independently of the result, I think it had been a good opportunity
for many of us to take advantage of the momentum and to initiate some
actions to promote the
+1!
On 6/20/13 3:13 PM, Arturo Servin wrote:
Thank you Bob and the IAOC for taking the time to analize the
possiblities of a meeting outside North America, Europe and Asia.
Independently of the result, I think it had been a good opportunity
for many of us to take advantage of the
At 08:02 20-06-2013, Mark Nottingham wrote:
Keep in mind that you're talking to an organisation that believes
that Vancouver qualifies as Asia.
That should be added to the Tao. :-)
At 08:24 20-06-2013, John C Klensin wrote:
Political convenience and expedience trumps geographical reality
One of the IAOC goals for 2013 was to update the IAOC website to improve
consistency, organization, linkage, and ease of use.
I am pleased to announce that the IAOC site has been updated and is available
now for your use at http://iaoc.ietf.org/.
On the home page see a video of an Overview of
At 11:00 20-06-2013, The IAOC wrote:
series of events and programs in South America. This would include:
- Increasing the IETF Fellows and policy makers from the region
I don't see any policy makers reviewing
Internet-Drafts. I don't see any policy makers
writing IETF RFCs. Policy
You mean like namedroppers?
If only we still had that list.
any reports of its death are from questionable sources
it was the victim of politics.
like much of life
randy
On Jun 20, 2013, at 11:26 AM, SM s...@resistor.net wrote:
At 08:02 20-06-2013, Mark Nottingham wrote:
Keep in mind that you're talking to an organisation that believes that
Vancouver qualifies as Asia.
That should be added to the Tao. :-)
At 08:24 20-06-2013, John C Klensin wrote:
I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on
Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at
http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq.
Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments
you may receive.
Document: draft-thornburgh-adobe-rtmfp-07
--On Thursday, June 20, 2013 12:36 -0400 Andrew Sullivan
a...@anvilwalrusden.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:17:16AM -0400, John C Klensin wrote:
So some review of the DNSEXT-specified procedures and
expectations may be in order.
...
But more generally, as a practical matter it is
-- Why does this need to be published as an IETF stream RFC? If I
understand correctly, this documents an existing protocol as implemented by
commercial products. I agree with Martin's comment that there is value in
publishing this sort of thing, but I applaud the Adobe and the author for
--On Thursday, June 20, 2013 22:14 -0400 Barry Leiba
barryle...@computer.org wrote:
FWIW, the IESG has discussed this in the context of other
documents, and is looking at boilerplate that does not say
that the document is a product of the IETF, and makes it
clear that the content is not a
On Jun 20, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org wrote:
-- Why does this need to be published as an IETF stream RFC? If I understand
correctly, this documents an existing protocol as implemented by commercial
products. I agree with Martin's comment that there is value in
On Jun 20, 2013, at 10:12 PM, John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com wrote:
p.s. I started a much more detailed response to Ben, but I think
the essence of it is above. IMO, a discussion that amounts to
whether or not an AD used bad judgment by choosing to sponsor an
individual Informational
Below is the current validated list of volunteers for Nomcom
2013. If your name has a *, I'm waiting for a message back
from you.
Big thanks to everyone who has volunteered!
Now what are the rest of you waiting for?
We still need quite a few to get up to 200 volunteers.
Please reply and
The IAOC would like to thank all the people who commented on the IETF
list and responded to the survey. It was very helpful to the IAOC in
identifying issues and interest.
As of 17 June 2013, the survey had 656 responses. This was more
responses than for any other survey we have done, and is
One of the IAOC goals for 2013 was to update the IAOC website to improve
consistency, organization, linkage, and ease of use.
I am pleased to announce that the IAOC site has been updated and is available
now for your use at http://iaoc.ietf.org/.
On the home page see a video of an Overview of
The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'MPLS Generic Associated Channel (G-ACh) Advertisement Protocol'
(draft-ietf-mpls-gach-adv-08.txt) as Proposed Standard
This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working
Group.
The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel
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