RE: RFC 6234 code

2013-06-28 Thread Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
I'd actually tried the authors, but no reply yet (only a few days). I also tried the RFC Editor thinking they might have e.g. XML from which extraction might have been easier, but also no response yet. And I had found several libraries, but not the RFC code. I can't see any suggestion that the

Re: RFC 6234 code

2013-06-28 Thread Eggert, Lars
Hi, On Jun 28, 2013, at 10:53, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) chris.dearl...@baesystems.com wrote: But the broader point is that if it's worth the IETF publishing the code as an RFC, it's worth making the code available straightforwardly. some WGs are good at this. RFC5662 for example includes

RE: RFC 6234 code

2013-06-28 Thread Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
I think we must agree to differ on whether the IETF should do this. If it takes twenty minutes work for everyone who has to do it, either that stacks up, or no one is actually interested, so is the RFC worth it? As for maintaining the code, I'm just suggesting the same snapshot as the RFC is

New form of remote attendance [was Re: The Nominating Committee Process: Eligibility]

2013-06-28 Thread Elwyn Davies
On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 12:44 +0100, Arturo Servin (probably did not intend to) wrote: What is the rationale of the requirement to attend psychically to meetings? I attend all meetings psychically so spriritual! Sorry.. couldn't resist. E.

Re: Evi Nemeth

2013-06-28 Thread Jun Murai
As we have been working together as IETF community as well as univ. community with us, I would share thiss loss of Evi with us and all the students working with her at IETF. Jun Murai 2013年6月28日金曜日 Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com: Evi used to be an IETF regular. There is rather

Re: RFC 6234 code

2013-06-28 Thread Tony Hansen
On 6/28/2013 4:53 AM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) wrote: I'd actually tried the authors, but no reply yet (only a few days). For me, a thanks to Tony Hansen, who did the extraction for me. (That makes me feel a little guilty, why should he do my work I could have done?) But the point of

Re: RFC 6234 code

2013-06-28 Thread Riccardo Bernardini
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Tony Hansen t...@att.com wrote: On 6/28/2013 4:53 AM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) wrote: I'd actually tried the authors, but no reply yet (only a few days). For me, a thanks to Tony Hansen, who did the extraction for me. (That makes me feel a little

Re: adaptive http

2013-06-28 Thread Richard Barnes
Hi Faiz, Thanks for bringing your idea to the IETF. The best way to propose your idea is to write down the details in an Internet-draft. That helps make sure that everyone understands how your system works. There are some tools for writing drafts here: http://tools.ietf.org/ Once you've

Re: RFC 6234 code

2013-06-28 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jun 28, 2013, at 1:57 AM, Eggert, Lars l...@netapp.com wrote: some WGs are good at this. RFC5662 for example includes the shell commands to extract the sources it contains. Earlier example: RFC 4134. It would certainly be nice if other WGs did this, too, but I'm not sure we need to

Part of Improving IETF Electronic Diversity [was: RFC 6234 code]

2013-06-28 Thread Hector Santos
I believe this is all part of improving the IETF Electronic Diversity picture. Just like we have to deal with greater people personal globalization diversity issues, there is also greater technology and legal diversity issues to deal with. So many tools, so many languages, so many OSes, so

draft-eastlake-trill-rfc6327bis-00 was replaced by draft-ietf-trill-rfc6327bis-00

2013-06-28 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi, Please note that draft-eastlake-trill-rfc6327bis-00 was replaced by draft-ietf-trill-rfc6327bis-00. Thanks, Donald = Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA d3e...@gmail.com

Experience with Online Protocol Testing

2013-06-28 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 [I posted this question a little while ago to the WG chairs mailing list and got no response. Maybe my question is too trivial but I thought I should try it on the ietf@ietf.org list as well to get some feedback.] Hi all, when concerns about

Re: Experience with Online Protocol Testing

2013-06-28 Thread Michael Tuexen
On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:54 PM, Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 [I posted this question a little while ago to the WG chairs mailing list and got no response. Maybe my question is too trivial but I thought I should try it on

Re: Experience with Online Protocol Testing

2013-06-28 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 For SCTP we did a number of interoperability tests, which were face to face meetings and the people who were developing stacks we there. This events were always very helpful not only for improving the stacks but also for improving the IETF

Re: Experience with Online Protocol Testing

2013-06-28 Thread Michael Tuexen
On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 For SCTP we did a number of interoperability tests, which were face to face meetings and the people who were developing stacks we there. This events were always

Re: RFC 6234 code

2013-06-28 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, June 28, 2013 10:11 -0400 Tony Hansen t...@att.com wrote: I also tried the RFC Editor thinking they might have e.g. XML from which extraction might have been easier, but also no response yet. And I had found several libraries, but not the RFC code. ... But the broader point is

Re: RFC 6234 code

2013-06-28 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Jun 28, 2013, at 12:10 PM, John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com wrote: Folks, IANAL, but please be _very_ careful about the comment Joe made about the potential difference between publishing a paper or article that contains code and exporting the code itself or making it generally available

Re: RFC 6234 code

2013-06-28 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-06-28, at 15:19, Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org wrote: The RFC Editor is publishing code in a text file that is formatted like an RFC. The proposal is for the RFC Editor to publish *the exact same code* in a file without the RFC wrapping. If you really think you see a legal

Re: Part of Improving IETF Electronic Diversity [was: RFC 6234 code]

2013-06-28 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi Hector, On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Hector Santos hsan...@isdg.net wrote: I believe this is all part of improving the IETF Electronic Diversity picture. Just like we have to deal with greater people personal globalization diversity issues, there is also greater technology and legal

Re: RFC 6234 code

2013-06-28 Thread Martin Rex
Dearlove, Christopher (UK) wrote: I'd actually tried the authors, but no reply yet (only a few days). I also tried the RFC Editor thinking they might have e.g. XML from which extraction might have been easier, but also no response yet. Extracting code from text is pretty trivial. Use

Re: RFC 6234 code

2013-06-28 Thread Martin Rex
Martin Rex wrote: Dearlove, Christopher (UK) wrote: I'd actually tried the authors, but no reply yet (only a few days). I also tried the RFC Editor thinking they might have e.g. XML from which extraction might have been easier, but also no response yet. Extracting code from text is

Comments For I-D: draft-moonesamy-nomcom-eligibility-00 (was Re: The Nominating Committee Process: Eligibility)

2013-06-28 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
This message is reply to an author of a new draft under ietf discussion. If this list is not the correct place to discuss such matter, then the list's responsible Chair is required to give details of where to discuss such new work. + Hi Moonesamy,

WG Review: Security Automation and Continuous Monitoring (sacm)

2013-06-28 Thread The IESG
A new IETF working group has been proposed in the Security Area. The IESG has not made any determination yet. The following draft charter was submitted, and is provided for informational purposes only. Please send your comments to the IESG mailing list (iesg at ietf.org) by 2013-07-08. Security

WG Review: Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange (mile)

2013-06-28 Thread The IESG
The Managed Incident Lightweight Exchange (mile) working group in the Security Area of the IETF is undergoing rechartering. The IESG has not made any determination yet. The following draft charter was submitted, and is provided for informational purposes only. Please send your comments to the IESG

WG Action: Formed Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband Performance (lmap)

2013-06-28 Thread The IESG
A new IETF working group has been formed in the Operations and Management Area. For additional information please contact the Area Directors or the WG Chair. Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband Performance (lmap) Current Status: Proposed WG

UPDATED WG Review: Security Automation and Continuous Monitoring (sacm)

2013-06-28 Thread The IESG
A new IETF working group has been proposed in the Security Area. The IESG has not made any determination yet. The following draft charter was submitted, and is provided for informational purposes only. Please send your comments to the IESG mailing list (iesg at ietf.org) by 2013-07-08. Security

New Non-WG Mailing List: vmeet -- IETF remote participation meeting services discussion

2013-06-28 Thread IETF Secretariat
A new IETF non-working group email list has been created. List address: vm...@ietf.org Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/vmeet/current/maillist.html To subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vmeet Purpose: Explore, specify and develop improved services for remotely

RFC 6956 on Forwarding and Control Element Separation (ForCES) Logical Function Block (LFB) Library

2013-06-28 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6956 Title: Forwarding and Control Element Separation (ForCES) Logical Function Block (LFB) Library Author: W. Wang, E. Haleplidis, K.

RFC 6971 on Depth-First Forwarding (DFF) in Unreliable Networks

2013-06-28 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6971 Title: Depth-First Forwarding (DFF) in Unreliable Networks Author: U. Herberg, Ed., A. Cardenas, T. Iwao,