RE: HTML forms

>> Anyone know whether Opera has microphone upload yet? > > More to the point, does anyone care? Well, sure, Opera probably cares whether they have a feature that Tim Berners-Lee claims is an integral part of the HTML standard, but hasn't yet been implemented by any of their competitors: ht

RE: HTML forms

Thanks for the confirmation there Lloyd :) J. --- On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, James P. Salsman wrote: > Anyone know whether Opera has microphone upload yet? More to the point, does anyone care? L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>PGP

RE: HTML forms

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Subject: Re: HTML forms > > Need info. on programming voice over ip If you mean with HTML forms, try: http://www.bovik.org/devup Imagine my shock when I learned microphone upload wasn't in MSIE 5.5. Mozilla already has it, if you'r

RE: HTML forms

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Re: HTML forms

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Re: support for device upload (was Re: HTML forms)

> If there needs to be a formal proposal to the IETF, it should > not be submitted by me alone. Experience has shown that an > outspoken geek with no apparent interest is not taken as > seriously as would be, for example, the officers in charge of > teaching spoken languages to cadets at West Poi

Re: support for device upload (was Re: HTML forms)

James, bottom line is, this is a W3C matter. you need to convince *them*. Keith

Re: HTML forms

Keith Moore wrote: > Note that since IETF does acknowledge W3C as the "owner" of the HTML > specifications ...much as the ITU acknowledges the IETF as the "owner" of the IP specifications. Let's not set a precedent we can't live with. :-) -- /==

support for device upload (was Re: HTML forms)

Keith, Thanks for your message: > the problem as I see it is that Mr. Salsman has not been able to obtain > much community support, much less consensus, for his idea. I am > not so sure that it's a fundamentally bad idea, but perhaps it needs > tweaking in order to gain widespread support.

ACCEPT and DEVICE (was Re: HTML forms)

Stephanos, Thanks for your message: >... You need detailed definitions, changes to DTDs, and more. > If you have these details, it would be nice to point us all to a > proposal so we know how "DEVICE" and "MAXTIME" would work. Sorry about not pointing to this document: http://www.bovik.org/d

Re: HTML forms

> Last time I checked, IANA, and not the IETF, controls the definitions > of Media Types. yes, but IANA follows IETF rules in assignment and updating of media types. > The entry for text/html [1] says, simply "See RFC > 1866". And RFC 1866 [2] is a more or less verbatim copy of the HTML > 2.0 S

Re: HTML forms

>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Apr 1 15:25:32 2000 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 02:25:06 +0300 (EEST) From: Stephanos Piperoglou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "James P. Salsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: R

Re: HTML forms

On Thu, 30 Mar 2000, James P. Salsman wrote: > The proposal would involve ammending the registration of the > text/html media type, incorporating the W3C standards extended with > two attributes of the INPUT element, DEVICE and MAXTIME. Last time I checked, IANA, and not the IETF, controls the d

Re: HTML forms

Janet, Thank you for your reply correcting my error: >>... The W3C... constrains meaningful debate to those >> willing and able to pay US$50,000 per year. > > That is not true, on a variety of counts. I'll name two. > First, membership has two levels: full and affiliate. For > more details, pl

Re: HTML forms

Valdis, Thank you for your reply: > When was the last time you bought a microphone/audio card for > a system that didn't include at least basic software to do > [recording to files]? Not too many months. Try any Linux on any of IBM's PCs with one of their soundcard/modem combinations; you'll

Re: HTML forms

On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 18:06:44 PST, "James P. Salsman" said: > audio conferencing. If you wanted to provide for students > on several different platforms, you would have to provide > a microphone capture application for each of them. Then, Sounds like a straw man to me. When was the last time

Re: HTML forms

Valdis, Thank you for your reply to my message: >>... The W3C... constrains meaningful debate to those willing and able >> to pay US$50,000 per year. I agree that there was a point in >> the early development of web standards when that constraint was >> beneficial > > Why was it beneficia

Re: HTML forms

David, Thanks for your message: > Given a microphone capturing application that can > capture a spoken phrase to a named file, the current > HTML file upload form element is sufficient to upload > that voice clip. That is absolutly right, and it captures the essense of why the W3C should take

Re: HTML forms

On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 13:03:07 PST, "James P. Salsman" said: > is assured on almost all controversial matters. The W3C, > however, constrains meaningful debate to those willing and able > to pay US$50,000 per year. I agree that there was a point in > the early development of web standards when

Re: HTML forms

Harald, Thanks for your message: > There is no procedure to "suspend control of aspects" of a specification, The proposal would involve ammending the registration of the text/html media type, incorporating the W3C standards extended with two attributes of the INPUT element, DEVICE and MAXTIME.

Re: HTML forms

Hello, At 16:26 30/03/00 +0930, you wrote: >At 16:52 29.03.00 -0800, James P. Salsman wrote: >>Some educational software advocates and I are considering >>asking the IETF to suspend control of certain aspects of >>HTML forms from the W3C until microphone upload issues are >>addressed. >No matter

Re: HTML forms

At 16:52 29.03.00 -0800, James P. Salsman wrote: >Some educational software advocates and I are considering >asking the IETF to suspend control of certain aspects of >HTML forms from the W3C until microphone upload issues are >addressed. No matter what may be thought of the merits of the case, suc

Re: HTML forms

Murray, Thank you for the substance of your debate: >... Get a life A life is best given with education (Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 27.) If microphone upload were prevalent, would asynchronous audio conferencing make spoken language instruction easier enough to help

Re: HTML forms

"James P. Salsman" wrote: > > Some educational software advocates and I are considering > asking the IETF to suspend control of certain aspects of > HTML forms from the W3C until microphone upload issues are > addressed. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Gad. Get a life. Really. I'm gone a month from www-h