Re: [Ilugc] Compiling the whole Linux distro from source
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Saravanan S dearsarava...@gmail.com wrote: Can any suggest a open-source Linux / some OS project that has a good documentation on compiling every integral part of it and getting the same fully functional iso image/ stuff that is readily available otherwise. www.gentoo.org - Raja ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Compiling the whole Linux distro from source
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Saravanan S dearsarava...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Can any suggest a open-source Linux / some OS project that has a good documentation on compiling every integral part of it and getting the same fully functional iso image/ stuff that is readily available otherwise. Most of such projects lack documentation especially on compiling everything from source. Few are deliberately placing the src contents scattered, that further adds to the complexity. Is there any such really Open-Source Project on this regard? Have you tried Linux From Scratch? LFS may not help you with src locations though. -- Mohan Sundaram ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Compiling the whole Linux distro from source
lfs? benjamin ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Compiling the whole Linux distro from source
Greetings, On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Saravanan S dearsarava...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Can any suggest a open-source Linux / some OS project that has a good documentation on compiling every integral part of it and getting the same fully functional iso image/ stuff that is readily available otherwise. Most of such projects lack documentation especially on compiling everything from source. Few are deliberately placing the src contents scattered, that further adds to the complexity. Is there any such really Open-Source Project on this regard? http://www.google.co.in/search?q=making+a+custom+distroie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a That said, I had come across one such project where you select the packages you want and the distro is built. I will post it when I am able rummage thru my huge bunch of bookmarks. rpath is somewhat like that i believe. http://www.rpath.org/ui/ HTH Regards, Rajagopal ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Compiling the whole Linux distro from source
Greetings, On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Saravanan S dearsarava...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Is there any such really Open-Source Project on this regard? Ah!, There you have it http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service It also features services that enable compilation and packaging for the other Linux distributions, like Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, and many more. Have fun and leave the building process and dependency resolution to the moster machines sitting in large datacenters of Big companies :) Say thanks and a smiley if you found what you are looking for.. ;) HTH Regards, Rajagopal ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Compiling the whole Linux distro from source
Greetings, On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan raju.rajs...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Saravanan S dearsarava...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any such really Open-Source Project on this regard? and if you are willing to shell out some money, have a go at http://susestudio.com/ Have fun and leave the building process and dependency resolution to the moster machines sitting in large datacenters of Big companies :) Say thanks and a smiley if you found what you are looking for.. ;) and you got an answer with 30 mins... mindit :) aah the wonderpower of community... HTH Cheers! Regards, Rajagopal ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Compiling the whole Linux distro from source
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan raju.rajs...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Saravanan S dearsarava...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Is there any such really Open-Source Project on this regard? Ah!, There you have it http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service It also features services that enable compilation and packaging for the other Linux distributions, like Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu, and many more. Have fun and leave the building process and dependency resolution to the moster machines sitting in large datacenters of Big companies :) Say thanks and a smiley if you found what you are looking for.. ;) Sweet! Thanks for your effort. ;) But, Kindly note that I am not talking about re-mastering alone, But some thing well beyond re-mastering. Mm, Not necessarily a distro Project, also any such open-source project that provide good documentation on compilation's steps with appropriate parameters, etc. Have any one tried compiling popular open source projects from source like Firefox, etc. Saravanan Sundaramoorthy Red Hat Certified Engineer +91 99404 32545 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Compiling the whole Linux distro from source
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:19 PM, benjamin benjamin...@gmail.com wrote: lfs? LFS -- Linux From Scratch Saravanan Sundaramoorthy Red Hat Certified Engineer +91 99404 32545 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Compiling the whole Linux distro from source
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:47 PM, Saravanan S dearsarava...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:19 PM, benjamin benjamin...@gmail.com wrote: lfs? LFS -- Linux From Scratch Thanks. It was my answer to you to be read as how about lfs?. Mohan's reply came just as I hit send. -- benjamin rualthanzauva http://friendfeed.com/rualthan ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Compiling the whole Linux distro from source
Greetings, On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Saravanan S dearsarava...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Rajagopal Swaminathan raju.rajs...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Saravanan S dearsarava...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Is there any such really Open-Source Project on this regard? Sweet! Thanks for your effort. ;) But, Kindly note that I am not talking about re-mastering alone, But some thing well beyond re-mastering. Mm, Not necessarily a distro Project, also any such open-source project that provide good documentation on compilation's steps with appropriate parameters, etc. Have any one tried compiling popular open source projects from source like Firefox, etc. I thought .spec file was for that purpose... Have you gone thru the susestudio video tour? Regards, Rajagopal ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Compiling the whole Linux distro from source
Hello, Mm, Not necessarily a distro Project, also any such open-source project that provide good documentation on compilation's steps with appropriate parameters, etc. Have any one tried compiling popular open source projects from source like Firefox, etc. Not a hard job. Dependencies can be a pain. You can also try pkgsrc which is NetBSD's answer for cross platform OS agnostic package building. You can find all the configuration flags of an application in the corresponding pkgsrc makefiles. I have personally used it in various Linux distros, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and DragonflyBSD at various times mainly to benchmark stuff. Regards, Senthil ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Compiling the whole Linux distro from source
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:03 PM, S. Senthil Anand senth...@au-kbc.orgwrote: Hello, Mm, Not necessarily a distro Project, also any such open-source project that provide good documentation on compilation's steps with appropriate parameters, etc. Have any one tried compiling popular open source projects from source like Firefox, etc. Not a hard job. Dependencies can be a pain. You can also try pkgsrc which is NetBSD's answer for cross platform OS agnostic package building. You can find all the configuration flags of an application in the corresponding pkgsrc makefiles. I have personally used it in various Linux distros, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and DragonflyBSD at various times mainly to benchmark stuff. Gd info Senthil, but similar issue i came across few days back about dependencies. Is pkgsrc such tool??, to find all the dependency library files/ bin files / files that are required for the application that has its contents inside a directory? To be simple, is there any such ldd command for all files/ sub-directories of a directory specified, not just for libraries but also for all dependencies ??? Or how to make an application *absolutely* portable in Linux environment ??? Saravanan Sundaramoorthy Red Hat Certified Engineer +91 99404 32545 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Compiling the whole Linux distro from source
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:03 PM, S. Senthil Anand Is pkgsrc such tool??, to find all the dependency library files/ bin files / files that are required for the application that has its contents inside a directory? You get a application directory with a Makefile and a few patches. The makefile clearly says what are the other packages which are needed to build the software and then to run the software [these need not be identical eg. to build C++ programs you need g++ but to run it you need libstdc++ and not g++.] Each of those packages will have their own Makefile etc. When you run make install, make will take care of building all the required dependencies recursively by downloading the source code and building them in the required order. FreeBSD and OpenBSD ports, and Gentoo's portage which is inspired by FreeBSD ports works similarly. If you want to simply view dependencies, go to http://pkgsrc.se and see if the software you want is there. You will get the complete dependency information for a package in pkgsrc under all supported platforms. To be simple, is there any such ldd command for all files/ sub-directories of a directory specified, not just for libraries but also for all dependencies ??? I am not aware of a single tool like ldd to display all the dependencies recursively. You can probably write a tool to walk through the dependency graph of a package for the various package managers you are interested in. For me the dependencies tab in synaptic is good enough. Or how to make an application *absolutely* portable in Linux environment ??? For source portability, pkgsrc or portage will take care of the stuff. For binary portability within a same architecture ie. i686 (betwwen distributions of the same architecture) , you need to statically compile your program + dependencies eg. Opera. Binary compatibilty between architectures ie. i686 and arm for example, is not feasible unless you go for something like MacOS's universal binaries which is not used anywhere in Linux land. Regards, Senthil ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] Compiling the whole Linux distro from source
Hi Senthil, On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:56 PM, S. Senthil Anand senth...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:03 PM, S. Senthil Anand Is pkgsrc such tool??, to find all the dependency library files/ bin files / files that are required for the application that has its contents inside a directory? You get a application directory with a Makefile and a few patches. The makefile clearly says what are the other packages which are needed to build the software and then to run the software [these need not be identical eg. to build C++ programs you need g++ but to run it you need libstdc++ and not g++.] Each of those packages will have their own Makefile etc. When you run make install, make will take care of building all the required dependencies recursively by downloading the source code and building them in the required order. FreeBSD and OpenBSD ports, and Gentoo's portage which is inspired by FreeBSD ports works similarly. If you want to simply view dependencies, go to http://pkgsrc.se and see if the software you want is there. You will get the complete dependency information for a package in pkgsrc under all supported platforms. To be simple, is there any such ldd command for all files/ sub-directories of a directory specified, not just for libraries but also for all dependencies ??? I am not aware of a single tool like ldd to display all the dependencies recursively. You can probably write a tool to walk through the dependency graph of a package for the various package managers you are interested in. For me the dependencies tab in synaptic is good enough. Or how to make an application *absolutely* portable in Linux environment ??? For source portability, pkgsrc or portage will take care of the stuff. For binary portability within a same architecture ie. i686 (betwwen distributions of the same architecture) , you need to statically compile your program + dependencies eg. Opera. Binary compatibilty between architectures ie. i686 and arm for example, is not feasible unless you go for something like MacOS's universal binaries which is not used anywhere in Linux land. Thanks for the eye-opening guidelines. Credits to your impressive cognizance. :) BTW, about ldd, ldd - list dynamic dependencies of executable files or shared objects http://wwwcgi.rdg.ac.uk:8081/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/wsi14/poplog/man/1/ldd Saravanan Sundaramoorthy Red Hat Certified Engineer +91 99404 32545 ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
