Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-08 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 07-Aug-07, at 2:10 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: ah see, this is it. a) tut! tut! kenneth, the event is no longer called freedel. it is called freed.in. freed.in is not a 'north event' it is a nation-wide event, with participation from across india and even beyond our borders. frankly i would

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-08 Thread Roshan
--- Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: frankly i would be happier if it remained a 'north event'. The strength of the foss movement in India is in the regions. There is never going to be an all-india foss movement/event. I feel that in each region one or more regional events come up

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-07 Thread Linux Lingam
Right. Sending goons with hockey sticks around to Niyam's house right now to make him see the error of his ways and repent before it's too late. make that GNU/Hockey if you please. on a side note, kenneth: a) hope you're coming to freed.in? b) hope you've pasted and promoted the banner

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-07 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 07-Aug-07, at 12:54 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: make that GNU/Hockey if you please. ahh - correct spelling on a side note, kenneth: a) hope you're coming to freed.in? would love to - but i am a libran cusp, so will not be able to make it. But we will be sending a team b) hope you've

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-07 Thread Linux Lingam
a) hope you're coming to freed.in? would love to - but i am a libran cusp, so will not be able to make it. But we will be sending a team hey! we'll celebrate your GNU/Birthday here in delhi, would be fun to hang out with you and celebrate. how many years since you've gone gpl? b)

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-06 Thread Linux Lingam
On 8/6/07, Vikram Ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haa,haa I would love to give a small talk on how cheap mass storage can be done with Linux and software raid (as I have done at home and work) .Count me in as long as the you don't expect a guru level of talk from me. I am an enthu techie at

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-06 Thread Ankur Rohatgi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06-08-07 10:01 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: did he agree? if not, you *are* starting a third front GnuLinux = GNU/Linux All the talk about 'FREEDOM' and we are not free to call it what we want ? If he has to 'sign off' on the name, isnt that

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-06 Thread Ankur Rohatgi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03-08-07 7:05 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: did i read that right? you mean 700GB, or 700TB, but surely not 700MB? OOPS! , thats 700GB. cheers. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:33:43 +0530, Ankur Rohatgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 06-08-07 10:01 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: did he agree? if not, you *are* starting a third front GnuLinux = GNU/Linux All the talk about 'FREEDOM' and we are not free to call it what we want ? If he has to

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-06 Thread Raj Mathur
On Tuesday 07 August 2007 09:13, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On 07-Aug-07, at 8:20 AM, Raj Mathur wrote: 1. Easily recognisable nope - it was rejected by all parties to the dispute as implying that linux is a gnu project 2. Unambiguous yes - claims linux as a gnu project 3. Clear as to

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-05 Thread Linux Lingam
also, strange as this may sound, can i get a similar buffalo here in india? Yes, Buffalo NAS stations are available in India. regards VK thanks for the info. researching further, i stumbled across an article by BBC, which led me to drobo, which led me to a cnet review, and at the

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-05 Thread Linux Lingam
On 8/6/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06-Aug-07, at 1:42 AM, Linux Lingam wrote: has anyone hacked this to work with gnulinux there are two camps - Linux and GNU/Linux - thats enough, please dont make a third front there is no third. about 3 years ago, i pointed out

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-05 Thread Sudev Barar
On 06/08/07, Vikram Ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haa,haa I would love to give a small talk on how cheap mass storage can be done with Linux and software raid (as I have done at home and work) .Count me in as long as the you don't expect a guru level of talk from me. I am an enthu techie

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-05 Thread Parijat Garg
Hey Guys, Any particular reason for freed.in to be on friday-saturday instead of saturday-sunday? I'd miss the first day :( Parijat On 8/6/07, Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 06/08/07, Vikram Ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haa,haa I would love to give a small talk on how cheap

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-05 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 06-Aug-07, at 9:13 AM, Linux Lingam wrote: there is no third. about 3 years ago, i pointed out richard stallman during his visit to delhi, that i use GnuLinux instead of GNU/linux as GNU/linux suffers from a typographic problem with certain typesetting engines during typesetting and

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-04 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did i read that right? you mean 700GB, or 700TB, but surely not 700MB? also, strange as this may sound, can i get a similar buffalo here in india? Yes, Buffalo NAS stations are available in India. regards VK Engineers normally have problem

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 03-Aug-07, at 3:20 PM, Vipul Mathur wrote: just think: Is there no way I can replicate/reconstruct this data if it is lost? You've got to be kidding. How do you replicate/reconstruct thousands of photos taken over years, carefully categorized and tagged. Videos taken on family vacations

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-03 Thread Vipul Mathur
On 8/3/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this mania for backing up is much worse than the sin of not backing up at all. Usually when you lose data that has not been backed up, apart from the initial shock, it turns out to be a very good thing in the long run. So before spending

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-03 Thread Ankur Rohatgi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02-08-07 6:23 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: how much did that buffalo cost you? what's your storage capacity? Costed me $700 and since its a RAID 5 array i lose some storage and it comes to about 700 MB. Plus really valuable data like kids videos also

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-03 Thread Ankur Rohatgi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02-08-07 3:37 PM, vivek khurana wrote: With a price tag close to a lakh, not that simple though.. I dont know where you do your shopping, i got mine for $700 :). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-03 Thread Linux Lingam
On 8/3/07, Ankur Rohatgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02-08-07 6:23 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: how much did that buffalo cost you? what's your storage capacity? Costed me $700 and since its a RAID 5 array i lose some storage and it comes to

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-02 Thread Ankur Rohatgi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02-08-07 8:37 AM, vivek khurana wrote: For home use RAID 1 is enough. Nothing complicated. remember the KISS principle. I keep it very simple and use a Buffalo terrastation gigabit nas for my home storage needs. Its set for RAID 5. -BEGIN

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-02 Thread Ankur Rohatgi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02-08-07 2:13 AM, Linux Lingam wrote: www.sonos.com and you'll understand why people would need a wifi-NAS at home. great link for ankur rohtagi. ;-) Heheh, too slow my friend. I am an ex sonos user, i had it for about a month and then i gave

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-02 Thread Shiv
06. last week i discovered some companies have started shipping a Network-Attached-Storage with built-in wi-fi. i dunno if this is available in india, and at what price. what do you guys think? / hi, Check out a fork off the m0n0wall (www.m0n0.ch/wall) project called FreeNAS

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-02 Thread Linux Lingam
On 8/2/07, Ankur Rohatgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02-08-07 8:37 AM, vivek khurana wrote: For home use RAID 1 is enough. Nothing complicated. remember the KISS principle. I keep it very simple and use a Buffalo terrastation gigabit nas for

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 03-Aug-07, at 6:15 AM, Vikas Rawal wrote: and as for other mail, everyone else backs it up, so I just have to ask the relevant person for a copy when I want it. economists call it free riding :) this mania for backing up is much worse than the sin of not backing up at all. Usually when

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-02 Thread Vikas Rawal
and as for other mail, everyone else backs it up, so I just have to ask the relevant person for a copy when I want it. economists call it free riding :) Vikas ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 02:14 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: dear all, what are the best options for backing up 40 to 60 gb of data per month? [...] Decent 500GB IDE drives are going for about Rs. 5K, which takes care of 8-10 months of storage. If you really care for the data, buy two, and make a

[ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Tanveer Singh
On 8/1/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 02:14 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: dear all, what are the best options for backing up 40 to 60 gb of data per month? [...] Decent 500GB IDE drives are going for about Rs. 5K, which takes care of 8-10 months of storage.

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Linux Lingam wrote: what are the best options for backing up 40 to 60 gb of data per month? dvd discs have come down in price, but some of the data-files are individually larger than 10gb (home video) and cutting and storing sliced versions

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Vipul Mathur
On 8/1/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Decent 500GB IDE drives are going for about Rs. 5K, which takes care of 8-10 months of storage. If you really care for the data, buy two, and make a software RAID array out of them. Agreed. In fact I would suggest that you make the 500GB RAID 1

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Linux Lingam
On 8/1/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 02:14 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: dear all, what are the best options for backing up 40 to 60 gb of data per month? [...] Decent 500GB IDE drives are going for about Rs. 5K, which takes care of 8-10 months of storage.

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Linux Lingam
Take a harddrive of double or more capacity than your total data and do a weekly rsync of all your data. Simple :-) If you tell us the layout for your data (or data partition) we can write a script for you to automate the backup. thanks vivek. i wonder if hardisks, especially when used

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Linux Lingam
thanks tanveer for your response. Gora Isnt something like Amazon S3 more reliable, if the data is critical. Its auotmatic using shell scripts and cron jobs. Cost for such data would come to around 15$/month if your total storage online is around 60GB Thats around 600rs/month or around

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks vivek. i wonder if hardisks, especially when used for such heavy read-writes, can last 10 years. i've seen my data cds have actually lasted 10 years, but can't recall a single hard-disk that has. As backups which is not accessed so

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Splurge on another Rs. 1.5K for a good USB/IDE interface, and you have instant access to the stored data. so you're saying i could use a usb2 hub, plug in 500GB hardisks slapped into usb-casings connected to this hub, and run a raid? RAID

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Kishore Bhargava
Vikram Ranade wrote: 750 GB drives cost 11k each at Nehru Place. we've just bought a bunch of them for storage. Personally I recommend a HDD based software raid 5 array. I have 2 such arrays at home totalling 2.5TB and they have been working really well for the past 2 years. We did

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Vikram Ranade
750 GB drives cost 11k each at Nehru Place. we've just bought a bunch of them for storage. Personally I recommend a HDD based software raid 5 array. I have 2 such arrays at home totalling 2.5TB and they have been working really well for the past 2 years. We did something similar at work with

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Linux Lingam
good old slashy! lots of different viewpoints. http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/30/184256 :-) niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - September

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 18:58 +0530, Kishore Bhargava wrote: Vikram Ranade wrote: 750 GB drives cost 11k each at Nehru Place. we've just bought a bunch of them for storage. Personally I recommend a HDD based software raid 5 array. I have 2 such arrays at home totalling 2.5TB and they

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Linux Lingam
On 8/1/07, Vikram Ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 750 GB drives cost 11k each at Nehru Place. we've just bought a bunch of them for storage. bunch of 750GB HDD for home storage. gulp! i agree with kishore, you gotta give a talk at freed.in Raiding the kitchen: what's cooking in terabytes at

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 18:05 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: On 8/1/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 02:14 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote: dear all, what are the best options for backing up 40 to 60 gb of data per month? [...] Decent 500GB IDE drives are going

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/1/07, Vikram Ranade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 750 GB drives cost 11k each at Nehru Place. we've just bought a bunch of them for storage. bunch of 750GB HDD for home storage. gulp! i agree with kishore, you gotta give a talk at freed.in

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread lawgon
Quoting Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Erm, doesn't everyone? I have 1TB at home in a RAID-1 configuration. i dont - the only data i cant afford to lose are my passwords which are backed up on deadtrees and locked in a safe. I dont even back up mail any more. List mail is archived anyway,

Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-07-31 Thread vivek khurana
--- Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear all, what are the best options for backing up 40 to 60 gb of data per month? dvd discs have come down in price, but some of the data-files are individually larger than 10gb (home video) and cutting and storing sliced versions across discs