Re: [ilugd] In the news...
Very cool! more press to the Linux cause. Vikram On 6/13/07, Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13/06/07, kapil dua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you noticed the name mentioned below the photograph of Sudev (samrat mukherjee/ cse) Standard industry practise to give credit to the photographer. You though that was the photo caption?? -- Regards, Sudev Barar ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] In the news...
Hi All, Have you noticed the name mentioned below the photograph of Sudev (samrat mukherjee/ cse) kapil On 6/11/07, Kishore Bhargava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! All, We have su.dev in the news. Well, not really the news but at least in the media: http://www.downtoearth.org.in/interview1.asp?foldername=20070615filename=newssec_id=14sid=29 Down To Earth - covers Sudev Barar on Opensource Software. Cheers...Kishore -- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] In the news...
On 13/06/07, kapil dua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you noticed the name mentioned below the photograph of Sudev (samrat mukherjee/ cse) Standard industry practise to give credit to the photographer. You though that was the photo caption?? -- Regards, Sudev Barar ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] In the news...
thanks shams for the quick response. as a fellow author, here's what i've learnt the hard way, so am just sharing: any authored work must either state its copyright ownership with year, or must be dedicated to the pubilc domain. you can't just leave it fuzzy in today's bankrupt world. ;-) if you state it copyright, and wish it to be shared, then you must publish it under a copyleft license, such as fdl, or verbatim, or choose an appropriate one from creativecommons. you could also write your own license, but in almost all cases the above two options work. hth :-) niyam ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] In the news...
On 12-Jun-07, at 6:36 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: any authored work must either state its copyright ownership with year, or must be dedicated to the pubilc domain. not so. Copyright arises from the fact of publication. And unless the author states so, all rights are reserved. If he wants to license the work, then he has to state the terms of the license. Please learn to distinguish between copyrigth, license and patent -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] In the news...
On 6/12/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12-Jun-07, at 6:36 PM, Linux Lingam wrote: any authored work must either state its copyright ownership with year, or must be dedicated to the pubilc domain. not so. Copyright arises from the fact of publication. And unless the author states so, all rights are reserved. If he wants to license the work, then he has to state the terms of the license. Please learn to distinguish between copyrigth, license and patent Kenneth Gonsalves thanks kenneth for the clarification, however, what i'm saying is that in today's 'bankrupt age' this is what *i've* learnt the hard way: a) that you must explicitly assert your copyright ownership by explicitly stating it while publishing. [to be understood in the current state-of-affairs] b) the license must also be stated *IF* the author wishes to share it with some forms of flexibility for end-users and others. c) am also trying to point out how we need to take proactive but careful steps towards authoring for the public domain, while still alive. :-) thanks kenneth for the clarifications, and yes i am quite aware of the differences between copyright, copyleft, license, patent, and trademark. plus, have been advising and trying to orient publishing businesses in all forms of media to consider how to explicitly state these aspects of their authored works. the best talk i've heard in india on this topic was delivered a few years ago by dr ajay shah that was truly quite inspiring. would be wonderful to invite him to deliver a talk on this and the gpl3. he always has interesting insights to share. :-) niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] In the news...
Hi! All, We have su.dev in the news. Well, not really the news but at least in the media: http://www.downtoearth.org.in/interview1.asp?foldername=20070615filename=newssec_id=14sid=29 Down To Earth - covers Sudev Barar on Opensource Software. Cheers...Kishore -- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] In the news...
On 11/06/07, Kishore Bhargava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have su.dev in the news. Well, not really the news but at least in the media: blushblush some misquotes / summarising took away some of the stronger feelings that I was trying to convey. -- Regards, Sudev Barar ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] In the news...
sudev, i just read through the article. great story and interview. congratulations! please do write to DTE, requesting them to publish the article under a verbatim license. would be nice if they agree. :-) niyam bhushan ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Debian Weekly News - December 26th, 2006
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2006/42/index.en.html -- raj shekhar facts: http://rajshekhar.net | opinions: http://rajshekhar.net/blog I dare do all that may become a man; Who dares do more is none. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Debian Weekly News - December 26th, 2006
On 27-Dec-06, at 9:13 AM, Raj Shekhar wrote: http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2006/42/index.en.html would be nice to give a couple of lines of explanation when posting a link - am currently on a very slow link, which made me realise the need -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Some new news items on LIG's pages
lease visit http://linuxindianews.notlong.com/ * Respected Sir... appeal to the VC (open letter to VTU-Ktaka)) * CHECK IT OUT: IMB announces LinuxPPC64 contest * We'll miss you Mandal Hembrom (Santhali localisation) * When sharing moves beyond software (Ahmedabad) * LinuxAsia2005.com, reflected in a blog, Slashdot, etc * Installing Indic * Languages, local computing, and Tapan * One day, one command * Surprised... at Burdwan * The Times of India higlights the software patents threat * India's newest LUG? AT SREC * I4d, and a study on FLOSS for health * From Mangalore... FLOSS news with love Check it out. You can also visit via http://www.linux-india.org pages _ _/ \Frederick Noronha * Freelance Journalist * Goa \ __\/\ India T +91.832.2409490 M +919822 122436 | | | | \ http://fn.swiki.net http://goabooks.swiki.net |__| |___| / http://www.bytesforall.net http://www.bytesforall.org \/ - Writing with a difference, on issues that really make the difference. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
RE: [ilugd] In the news
Dear Sirs, With reference to the post by Mr. Kishore Bhargava regarding the article in Indian Express and the reference therein to the Nice Guy from LUG, I also read the article and I am also looking for somebody to help me setup Linux on my Computer and perhaps somebody could come forward and spare his valuable time for this. I am currently hesitant to go on my own because on a previous occasion I set up Red Hat 9 along with Win 98, and GRUB created a problem, I could not boot into any O/S and no help was there as no body in my contacts had any Linux experience. I had to format my hard drive. Any good Samaritan willing to help me can contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks and regards, Sincerely, Pramod Saigal. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] In the news
Pramod Saigal wrote: Dear Sirs, With reference to the post by Mr. Kishore Bhargava regarding the article in Indian Express and the reference therein to the Nice Guy from LUG, I also read the article and I am also looking for somebody to help me setup Linux on my Computer and perhaps somebody could come forward and spare his valuable time for this. I am currently hesitant to go on my own because on a previous occasion I set up Red Hat 9 along with Win 98, and GRUB created a problem, I could not boot into any O/S and no help was there as no body in my contacts had any Linux experience. I had to format my hard drive. Any good Samaritan willing to help me can contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks and regards, Sincerely, Pramod Saigal. Hi Pramod, Anyone here will be glad to help you out, BUT if we do it for you what did you learn. you know the famous saying To get something , you have to lose something. Well so to get your exp. with it you will have to lose some of your 'precious' Windows(TM) time. What I would like to suggest that you pick up Mandrake 10 CD and use that to install I am sure you would have no prob. and if you do you can call me (only if you tried yourself first) and I can guide you trough it, but take my word you won't gain anything with me doing it. You doing it yourself will be much better off. and in any case before going ahead just backup your data so you are free to experiment, after all this is what you work on computers, to learn from practice :) Manpreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] In the news
On Tue, 2004-10-19 at 17:54, Pramod Saigal wrote: Any good Samaritan willing to help me can contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks and regards, Sincerely, Pramod Saigal. Pramod is it not obvious that there are many good help guys(gals??) but the first step is to tell about yourself. If I do not know where you are how do you expect me to even volunteer. Or if I do blindly then find out you are in Sonepat and I am in Faridabad.you are going to go around and say LUG guys are very unhelpful. Just my thought. -- Sudev Barar Learning Linux ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] In the news
Article that appeared in Indian Express, mentions a nice guy from Delhi Linux Group http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=57149 Unfortunately, no names mentioned so we'll just have to keep guessing! Cheers...Kishore -- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] (fwd) Hot News! The Assault of the Momo-Eaters and other Linux issues
[Forwarded since Ashwin's posts don't seem to make it to the list...] This is an RFC 1153 digest. (1 message) -- Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ashwin Baindur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hot News! The Assault of the Momo-Eaters and other Linux issues Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 09:52:25 +0530 [snip] Hot News! The Assault of the Momo-Eaters and other Linux issues New Delhi is under threat ! The latest outrage was committed by a group of Linux buffs in Dilli Haat on citizens enjoying a tranquil Sunday afternoon in the salubrious surrounds of Dilli Haat. The ILUGDites, as they call themselves, demolished every plate of Momos and Pav Bhaji and drank every cup of Coffee they came across - leaving an aghast citizenry open-jawed and hungry. We spoke to Mr Khidki, from the MegaHard corporation who bitterly reproached the incident ,We shall not allow these cyber terrorists from preventing peaceful companies from carrying out legitimate profitable business. They hound us everywhere with their viral licences. Now they trouble us in Dilli Haat also during our few authorised moments of peace . The Thana i/c Dilli Haat Goon Squad stated that the following were identified at the scene by witnesses :- Self-styled Generallisimo Raju Mathur - wielding threats of an unknown Weapon of Mass Destruction - codenamed GnuPG. Supython Sethi - Hi. Penguinhead Kaushal - The arch enemu of Windowsman. Kishore 'Moneybags' Bhargava - the fiendish financer. Tarun 'The Evil Secretary Bird' Dua Jazzmeet UnWorthy Xyberdip(aka Nagadeepan) Ashish 'The Cyber Kid' Mukherjee Vivek 'Logo Loony' Khurana Anuj Sharma alias The Man from HCLPEROT Sudev 'Still Threatening to Learn Linux!' Barar Wee Wee Wiwek Chief Big Pony Tail Chandra - How! A Lolita named Sharma from the Great Beyond with sidekick Bob 'Who needs Mike?' Adkins Rajesh Kumar (a very sinister and secretive character indeed - even the FBI worries about such people with perfectly normal names). and of course Ashwin Baindur - the Fastest Mouth in the West of India Well, there they all were. Had the Thought Police but known - they could have rounded them all up - except for one archenemy who stayed away from the Matrix - Linux Lingam. The conspiracy began at a shady corner of the Dilli Haat auditorium - after Raju scared mooning couples away with a red pill! The gang true to form turned up in ones and twos to avoid detection. The early birds got sprained necks from watching out for beautiful birds - who could well have been planted by the cops to spy on the meet. Thoroughly disappointed at not finding this to be the case, they then sprained the other side of their necks trying to decide which of the Dilbert characters heading doggedly for the fence at the very end of Dilli Haat could possibly be the Highly Intelligent ILUGDites coming for the meet. The first agenda item of the meeting was the forming of the Secret Terrorist Society. The President Designate Raju Mathur and Treasurer Designate Kishore asked for a Secretary Designate. The two contenders - Tarun and Vivek (not Wiwek) slugged it out till Tarun got his arm-twisted by the hoi polloi into accepting the job for a complete 12 months. He is to be aided, despite his wishes, by Vivek. To sidetrack Vivek from the glory that will be his as Founding Secretary, Vivek has been tasked with a miracle - to get three viable logos for the Holy Grail project of ILUGD - The Sacred Penguin Toga sometimes called a T-shirt. That should keep him busy, hee hee hee! The second agenda point was who was to be given the plum post of being the convenor of the next meet. There being a very large number of aspirants, Ashwin clinched the deal by offering free beer to the Selection Committee. Jagmohan Dalmiya, watchout! So the next meet will be at Ashwin's. Since Fauji's can't count beyond five, the meet is going to be basically Gnubie oriented because they are about the only people Ashwin can impress with his NO-ledge of Linux. Anyway if there's beer - sab kuch chalta hai. The third point that Raju had to make is that such 'do perl or die' issues can only be concluded when the pact is signed in blood! So he expects all the ILUGDites to donate blood for his favorite vampire - the Red Cross near Parliament next Sunday. More from him online later. The meeting then decided on the nefarious activities to be undertaken.The first is for ILUGDites to strike at Linux Bangalore. After that organised mayhem at the LINUX Meet in Delhi next February. Ambition! Ambition! It was after this point that things got out of hand. The people at the Honest and Fresh Coffee stand were threatened into turning over a large part of their premises for the orgy of momos and pav-bhaji that ensued - things began to get quite hot. The stand-owners were finally bribed into silence by ordering gallons of coffee. The last point to decide before leaving was to