Re: [efloraofindia:43258] Kaas is Beautiful - 1
Very nice pictures Swagat ji. This one is in the threatened, endangered list. Do have a look of my pic of the plant in the database taken last year at Kass. regards, Rashida. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:05 PM, shubhada nikharge shubhada_nikha...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Swagat ji, Nice pics. thanx for sharing. It looks like Aponogeton satarensis (वायतुरा) to me. I had seen this in Kaas in Sept 2009 but could not photograph due to heavy rains. i have not yet gone to kaas this year. Hope to see it again. Cheers, Shubhada I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do. -- *From:* Swagat swagat1...@gmail.com *To:* indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Mon, 2 August, 2010 5:07:24 PM *Subject:* [efloraofindia:43194] Kaas is Beautiful - 1 Dear all, Request for ID Date/Time- **30th Jully 2010, 07.40 a.m.* * Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- **Kaas Pathar, Dist. Satara, Maharashtra कास पठार, जि.- सातारा, महाराष्ट्र* * Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- **Wild** Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- *Tiny Herb* Height/Length- Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- Inflorescence Type/ Size- Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- Regards, ~Swagat 9223217568 / 9422317979 -- 'I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do.' - Helen Keller
Re: [efloraofindia:43260] Any research on this among the group?
Wonderful inputs Satya Prakash ji and Siddhu ji. Satya ji your studies and observations are very important and relevant and should give good directions to Marianne ji's article. All the best. regards, Rashida. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Mr. Satya, I am sorry, I think I misinterpreted. Regards Pankaj
Re: [efloraofindia:43261] Which Bramha-Kamal?
I have seen this flower in my neighbourhood, but it is not the true Brahmakamal. It flowers during the monsoon. It is a type of cactus. The flower opens during night and by day it closes. The fragrance of this flower is very intoxicating. There is one saying that the plant is very difficult to flower and the house where it flowers is very lucky. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote: Dr. Oudhia ji, This is the one generally seen in home gardens. The true one is the greenish one more like a cabbage seen in the valley of flowers and Hemkund slopes. regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Group Members, I received these pictures from local newspaper claiming it as true Himalayan Bramha-Kamal. I have doubt. It looks like Cactus. Please confirm it. regards Pankaj Oudhia
Re: [efloraofindia:43262] Which Bramha-Kamal?
Thanks Rashida ji and Mani ji. Is it Epiphyllum species? regards Pankaj Oudhia On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:43 AM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen this flower in my neighbourhood, but it is not the true Brahmakamal. It flowers during the monsoon. It is a type of cactus. The flower opens during night and by day it closes. The fragrance of this flower is very intoxicating. There is one saying that the plant is very difficult to flower and the house where it flowers is very lucky. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote: Dr. Oudhia ji, This is the one generally seen in home gardens. The true one is the greenish one more like a cabbage seen in the valley of flowers and Hemkund slopes. regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Group Members, I received these pictures from local newspaper claiming it as true Himalayan Bramha-Kamal. I have doubt. It looks like Cactus. Please confirm it. regards Pankaj Oudhia
Re: [efloraofindia:43264] Which Bramha-Kamal?
Yes Panka ji ... *Epiphyllum oxypetalum*. At my photostream ... http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Epiphyllumoxypetalumw=91314344%40N00m=tags Regards. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Rashida ji and Mani ji. Is it Epiphyllum species? regards Pankaj Oudhia On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:43 AM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen this flower in my neighbourhood, but it is not the true Brahmakamal. It flowers during the monsoon. It is a type of cactus. The flower opens during night and by day it closes. The fragrance of this flower is very intoxicating. There is one saying that the plant is very difficult to flower and the house where it flowers is very lucky. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote: Dr. Oudhia ji, This is the one generally seen in home gardens. The true one is the greenish one more like a cabbage seen in the valley of flowers and Hemkund slopes. regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Group Members, I received these pictures from local newspaper claiming it as true Himalayan Bramha-Kamal. I have doubt. It looks like Cactus. Please confirm it. regards Pankaj Oudhia
Re: [efloraofindia:43266] MaharashtraPlant-ChandrapurDistrict-3
hello Pankaj ji, i looks like Barringtonia acutangula from family Lecythidaceae... regards manasi * * http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantab/barringrac.htm On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Joshi Pankaj joshi...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear All Group Members, Pl. ID this plant: Habit: Tree Habitat: Near strembed Terrain: Rocky Thankyou, Pankaj *** Pankaj N. Joshi, Ph.D Jr. Scientist Gujarat Institute of Desert Ecology (GUIDE) Post Box # 83, Opp. Changleshwar Temple, Mundra Road, Bhuj- Kachchh Gujarat: 370 001 (India) Phone: +91 2832 235025, 329408; Fax: 235027 Cell: +91 94269 49523 Optional E-mail: pranav_pan...@rediffmail.com ***
Re: [efloraofindia:43267] Which Bramha-Kamal?
Pankaj ji, Excellent photos. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: This is what the real Brahma Kamal looks like. Pic was taken at 4300m near Hemkunt Sahib. One pic shows Hemkunt sahib on the back side and the famous Gudwara too. Hope you will like it and hope Dr. Gurcharan will like the religious place. In hindu mythology its said that offering 1 brahma kamal is equivalent to offering 1000 roses to god! Name: Saussurea obvallata (DC.) Edgew. Family: Asteraceae Regards Pankaj
Re: [efloraofindia:43268] Which Bramha-Kamal?
Thanks all. I have sent reply to the newspaper and requested them to acknowledge efloraindia while publishing this news. I was informed that someone was planning to sell this plant in the name of true Bramha Kamal at very high price. Now the truth will come in front of common people. Thanks again. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: This is what the real Brahma Kamal looks like. Pic was taken at 4300m near Hemkunt Sahib. One pic shows Hemkunt sahib on the back side and the famous Gudwara too. Hope you will like it and hope Dr. Gurcharan will like the religious place. In hindu mythology its said that offering 1 brahma kamal is equivalent to offering 1000 roses to god! Name: Saussurea obvallata (DC.) Edgew. Family: Asteraceae Regards Pankaj
[efloraofindia:43270] Advice please
Hello all, I have several chillie plants growing in my terrace garden germinated out of seeds of Andhra chillies bought in Hyderabad last year. They are quite bushy and healthy, specially after the rains, with lots of flowers, which happened last year too, but chillie output has been/is almost zero. I would very much appreciate advice on what the reason might be and how I may have the flowers come to fruition. I apologise if this is not the right forum to ask such a question. Many thanks. Sushmita Jha
Re: [efloraofindia:43271] Which Bramha-Kamal?
Brahama-kamal is Saussure obvallata (DC.) Edgew,, a high altitude plant of Himalayas not found at altitudes below 3500m. The confusion is genuine as you see from the following links (the same blog shows true Saussurea obvallata and flowers with numerous stamens (obviously Epiphyllum oxypetalum). I hope newspaper reporter got carried away by mixture of photographs on the internet: http://www.somewhereinblog.net/blog/mohdfiendblog/28874873/ Here is the true opened flower head of Saussurea obvallata http://www.eoearth.org/article/Nanda_Devi_and_Valley_of_Flowers_National_Park,_India http://www.somewhereinblog.net/blog/mohdfiendblog/28874873/ Pankaj ji, you may be right, it could be Epiphyllum oxypetalum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphyllum_oxypetalum http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://chicagohouseplants.com/ESTORE/epiphyllum_02.jpgimgrefurl=http://store.chicagohouseplants.com/rare-magnificent-bloom-xlarge-epiphyllum-houseplant.htmlusg=__jUC07QLUm8KU23dP53uU9CECGjo=h=619w=814sz=85hl=enstart=0sig2=dBooXd1lO7Pov054nAHlRwtbnid=xQXq1hnjP-oI2M:tbnh=143tbnw=176ei=crhXTMaRMYvCrAef5amJCAprev=/images%3Fq%3DEpiphyllum%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1006%26bih%3D605%26tbs%3Disch:1um=1itbs=1iact=hcvpx=133vpy=117dur=996hovh=196hovw=258tx=144ty=85page=1ndsp=17ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0 -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Rashida ji and Mani ji. Is it Epiphyllum species? regards Pankaj Oudhia On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:43 AM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen this flower in my neighbourhood, but it is not the true Brahmakamal. It flowers during the monsoon. It is a type of cactus. The flower opens during night and by day it closes. The fragrance of this flower is very intoxicating. There is one saying that the plant is very difficult to flower and the house where it flowers is very lucky. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote: Dr. Oudhia ji, This is the one generally seen in home gardens. The true one is the greenish one more like a cabbage seen in the valley of flowers and Hemkund slopes. regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Group Members, I received these pictures from local newspaper claiming it as true Himalayan Bramha-Kamal. I have doubt. It looks like Cactus. Please confirm it. regards Pankaj Oudhia
Re: [efloraofindia:43272] Advice please
Sushmita ji, the main reason for your plants note flowering is due to overcrowding as it is not getting the required food. So you have to transplant them in medium sized pots @ 2 plants in a pot.Select the healthy plants and discard the rest. Plant them in soil mixed with dried cow dung. Within two months your plants start flowering and after that you will find lots of chillies on the plants. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, I have several chillie plants growing in my terrace garden germinated out of seeds of Andhra chillies bought in Hyderabad last year. They are quite bushy and healthy, specially after the rains, with lots of flowers, which happened last year too, but chillie output has been/is almost zero. I would very much appreciate advice on what the reason might be and how I may have the flowers come to fruition. I apologise if this is not the right forum to ask such a question. Many thanks. Sushmita Jha
Re: [efloraofindia:43273] Advice please
One thing I forgot, give them full sunlight and timely watering. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:36 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: Sushmita ji, the main reason for your plants note flowering is due to overcrowding as it is not getting the required food. So you have to transplant them in medium sized pots @ 2 plants in a pot.Select the healthy plants and discard the rest. Plant them in soil mixed with dried cow dung. Within two months your plants start flowering and after that you will find lots of chillies on the plants. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, I have several chillie plants growing in my terrace garden germinated out of seeds of Andhra chillies bought in Hyderabad last year. They are quite bushy and healthy, specially after the rains, with lots of flowers, which happened last year too, but chillie output has been/is almost zero. I would very much appreciate advice on what the reason might be and how I may have the flowers come to fruition. I apologise if this is not the right forum to ask such a question. Many thanks. Sushmita Jha
Re: [efloraofindia:43274] Which Bramha-Kamal?
What an interest generation? while I was typing my mail, checking links and details, 5 mails came in. Fortunately we solved the myth too soon and independently. Thanks Pankaj Kmar ji for your first hand photographs from Hemkunt sahib. I have never seen the plant myself, only the photographs in books. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote: Dr.Oudhia ji, Here's one scanned image of Saussurea obvallata taken on the way to Hemkunt sahib with a non-digiital camera few years back - shows the Brahma kamal standing up in the middle surrounded by Himalayan poppies and other flowers. There may be more pics in our database. This is an endangered species too because many people pluck this out and take it with them, not just for themselves but also for their relatives!!. Hope the supply remains infinite. regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: This is what the real Brahma Kamal looks like. Pic was taken at 4300m near Hemkunt Sahib. One pic shows Hemkunt sahib on the back side and the famous Gudwara too. Hope you will like it and hope Dr. Gurcharan will like the religious place. In hindu mythology its said that offering 1 brahma kamal is equivalent to offering 1000 roses to god! Name: Saussurea obvallata (DC.) Edgew. Family: Asteraceae Regards Pankaj
[efloraofindia:43275] Re: MaharashtraPlant-ChandrapurDistrict-3
Hello all it is Barringtonia acutangula (L.) Gaertn. Fruct. 2: 97, t. 101, 1791; Cl. in Hook.f., Fl. Brit. Ind. 2: 508, 1878; Cooke, Fl. Pres. Bombay 2: 528, 1958 (Repr.); Almeida, Fl. Mah. 2: 256, 1998; Pradhan et al, Fl. SGNP 271, 2005. Synonyms: Eugenia acutangula L., Sp. 673, 1753. Stravadium acutangulum Miers., Trans. L. Soc Serv. 2, Bot. 1: 80, 1875. Stravadium rheedii Miers, I.c. 82, 1875. Common names: Indian Oak, Dhatriphal, Tivar, Ingli. Note: Pradhan et al. Flora of Sanjay Gandhi National Park, BSI, (2005) treated genus Barringtonia Frost Frost. in Family Barringtoniaceae. Barringtonia Forst. Forst. (nom. cons) Barringtoniaceae F. Rudolphi, Syst. Orb. Veg.: 56. 5-12 Jul 1830, nom. cons. is included in the list of validly published families (Reveal, L. J., 2007 in Indices Nominum Supragenericorum Plantarum Vascularium www.plantsystematics.org.). Regards Satish Pardeshi On Aug 3, 11:40 am, manasikaran manasika...@gmail.com wrote: hello Pankaj ji, i looks like Barringtonia acutangula from family Lecythidaceae... regards manasi * * http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantab/barringrac.htm On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Joshi Pankaj joshi...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear All Group Members, Pl. ID this plant: Habit: Tree Habitat: Near strembed Terrain: Rocky Thankyou, Pankaj *** Pankaj N. Joshi, Ph.D Jr. Scientist Gujarat Institute of Desert Ecology (GUIDE) Post Box # 83, Opp. Changleshwar Temple, Mundra Road, Bhuj- Kachchh Gujarat: 370 001 (India) Phone: +91 2832 235025, 329408; Fax: 235027 Cell: +91 94269 49523 Optional E-mail: pranav_pan...@rediffmail.com ***
Re: [efloraofindia:43276] Re: MaharashtraPlant-ChandrapurDistrict-3
... commonly known as: cut nut, freshwater mangrove, Indian putat, itchy tree, kandu almond, small Indian oak, wild almond • Bengali: হিজল hijala • Hindi: अब्ज abja, अदल adal, हिज्जल hijjal, निचुल nichul, पिचुल pichul, समुन्दरफल samundarphal • Kannada: ಹೊಳೆಕೋವೌಮರ holekovaumara • Konkani: इंग्ळी imgli • Malayalam: ആറ്റുപേഴ് aatupeezh, നീര്പ്പേഴ് niirppeezh • Marathi: धात्रीफळ dhatriphala, नेवर nevar, समुद्रफळ samudraphala • Oriya: hinjolo • Sanskrit: हिज्जल hijjala, निचुल nichul, पिचुल pichul, रक्तमन्जर raktamanjara, समुद्रफल samudraphala • Tamil: செங்கடம்பு cengkatampu, ஸமுத்திரப்பழம samudra pazham • Telugu: కడపచెట్టు kadapachettu Regards. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Pardeshi S. satishparde...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all it is Barringtonia acutangula (L.) Gaertn. Fruct. 2: 97, t. 101, 1791; Cl. in Hook.f., Fl. Brit. Ind. 2: 508, 1878; Cooke, Fl. Pres. Bombay 2: 528, 1958 (Repr.); Almeida, Fl. Mah. 2: 256, 1998; Pradhan et al, Fl. SGNP 271, 2005. Synonyms: Eugenia acutangula L., Sp. 673, 1753. Stravadium acutangulum Miers., Trans. L. Soc Serv. 2, Bot. 1: 80, 1875. Stravadium rheedii Miers, I.c. 82, 1875. Common names: Indian Oak, Dhatriphal, Tivar, Ingli. Note: Pradhan et al. Flora of Sanjay Gandhi National Park, BSI, (2005) treated genus Barringtonia Frost Frost. in Family Barringtoniaceae. Barringtonia Forst. Forst. (nom. cons) Barringtoniaceae F. Rudolphi, Syst. Orb. Veg.: 56. 5-12 Jul 1830, nom. cons. is included in the list of validly published families (Reveal, L. J., 2007 in Indices Nominum Supragenericorum Plantarum Vascularium www.plantsystematics.org.). Regards Satish Pardeshi On Aug 3, 11:40 am, manasikaran manasika...@gmail.com wrote: hello Pankaj ji, i looks like Barringtonia acutangula from family Lecythidaceae... regards manasi * * http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantab/barringrac.htm On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Joshi Pankaj joshi...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear All Group Members, Pl. ID this plant: Habit: Tree Habitat: Near strembed Terrain: Rocky Thankyou, Pankaj *** Pankaj N. Joshi, Ph.D Jr. Scientist Gujarat Institute of Desert Ecology (GUIDE) Post Box # 83, Opp. Changleshwar Temple, Mundra Road, Bhuj- Kachchh Gujarat: 370 001 (India) Phone: +91 2832 235025, 329408; Fax: 235027 Cell: +91 94269 49523 Optional E-mail: pranav_pan...@rediffmail.com ***
Re: [efloraofindia:43277] Advice please
may be because of no pollination . On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, I have several chillie plants growing in my terrace garden germinated out of seeds of Andhra chillies bought in Hyderabad last year. They are quite bushy and healthy, specially after the rains, with lots of flowers, which happened last year too, but chillie output has been/is almost zero. I would very much appreciate advice on what the reason might be and how I may have the flowers come to fruition. I apologise if this is not the right forum to ask such a question. Many thanks. Sushmita Jha
[efloraofindia:43278] Re: Scrophulariaceae for ID? 010810-PKA1
Hi, Undoubtedly it is Lindernia sp (Scrophulariaceae), although am not able to reach the species without having the specimen in hand. You need details of capsules as well for species id. Regards, Giby On Aug 3, 11:24 am, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Gurcharan ji ... saw what you mean in Prashant's album at Picasa ...http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/02sbDF5PX2KEK8b7hihvDw Will wait for more comments to come to resolve ID of this plant. My closest possible capture is already attached; re-attaching for quick review. Regards. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Dinesh ji To me the true identity is still elusive!!. The calyx of Torenia indica is large and conspicuously winged, not seen in your photographs. May be close up of the flower, especially side view will resolve the issue. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Shrikant ji has resolved the ID to *Torenia indica*. Many thanks, Pankaj Joshi ji. Regards. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Joshi Pankaj joshi...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear All Group Members, May...*Lindernia ciliata*...we have also a same plant having pinkish purple flowers. *** Pankaj N. Joshi, Ph.D Jr. Scientist Gujarat Institute of Desert Ecology (GUIDE) Post Box # 83, Opp. Changleshwar Temple, Mundra Road, Bhuj- Kachchh Gujarat: 370 001 (India) Phone: +91 2832 235025, 329408; Fax: 235027 Cell: +91 94269 49523 Optional E-mail: pranav_pan...@rediffmail.com *** -- *From:* Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com *To:* Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com *Cc:* efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Mon, 2 August, 2010 6:51:48 PM *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:43205] Re: Scrophulariaceae for ID? 010810-PKA1 Dear friends, attaching a photo of same (exact) plant. Regards. On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Lindernia seems better to me for this..but I have never seen pinkish one before. Pankaj P1210938.jpg 89KViewDownload
Re: [efloraofindia:43279] Advice please
It could be also because of inferior seeds. Next time try to select healthy seeds from the dried chilli pods and put the seeds in sunlight. You can put some seeds in water and the ones which are healthy will go down and which are not healthy will float on the water. I have tried to grow the plant from the chillies from Mumbai market and was successful. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:56 PM, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.comwrote: may be because of no pollination . On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, I have several chillie plants growing in my terrace garden germinated out of seeds of Andhra chillies bought in Hyderabad last year. They are quite bushy and healthy, specially after the rains, with lots of flowers, which happened last year too, but chillie output has been/is almost zero. I would very much appreciate advice on what the reason might be and how I may have the flowers come to fruition. I apologise if this is not the right forum to ask such a question. Many thanks. Sushmita Jha
Re: [efloraofindia:43280] Re: Scrophulariaceae for ID? 010810-PKA1
Perhaps it would be interesting to know the species of Lindernia reported from the region. Lindernia appears to be the likely choice. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Undoubtedly it is Lindernia sp (Scrophulariaceae), although am not able to reach the species without having the specimen in hand. You need details of capsules as well for species id. Regards, Giby On Aug 3, 11:24 am, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Gurcharan ji ... saw what you mean in Prashant's album at Picasa ... http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/02sbDF5PX2KEK8b7hihvDw Will wait for more comments to come to resolve ID of this plant. My closest possible capture is already attached; re-attaching for quick review. Regards. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Dinesh ji To me the true identity is still elusive!!. The calyx of Torenia indica is large and conspicuously winged, not seen in your photographs. May be close up of the flower, especially side view will resolve the issue. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Shrikant ji has resolved the ID to *Torenia indica*. Many thanks, Pankaj Joshi ji. Regards. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Joshi Pankaj joshi...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear All Group Members, May...*Lindernia ciliata*...we have also a same plant having pinkish purple flowers. *** Pankaj N. Joshi, Ph.D Jr. Scientist Gujarat Institute of Desert Ecology (GUIDE) Post Box # 83, Opp. Changleshwar Temple, Mundra Road, Bhuj- Kachchh Gujarat: 370 001 (India) Phone: +91 2832 235025, 329408; Fax: 235027 Cell: +91 94269 49523 Optional E-mail: pranav_pan...@rediffmail.com *** -- *From:* Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com *To:* Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com *Cc:* efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Mon, 2 August, 2010 6:51:48 PM *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:43205] Re: Scrophulariaceae for ID? 010810-PKA1 Dear friends, attaching a photo of same (exact) plant. Regards. On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Lindernia seems better to me for this..but I have never seen pinkish one before. Pankaj P1210938.jpg 89KViewDownload
[efloraofindia:43281] Re: Which Bramha-Kamal?
Thanks a lot Dr. Gurcharan for the appreciation. The plant is not just isolated to Hemkunt sahib are, but it is widespread on higher altitudes from 4000m and above, but now a days it has become rare due to its intensive use during offerings in the puja at various temples on higher elevations. From Badrinath, its almost wiped off, but they are available at distance places in the area. Regards Pankaj
Re: [efloraofindia:43282] Re: Which Bramha-Kamal?
Thanks for information, Pankaj ji -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks a lot Dr. Gurcharan for the appreciation. The plant is not just isolated to Hemkunt sahib are, but it is widespread on higher altitudes from 4000m and above, but now a days it has become rare due to its intensive use during offerings in the puja at various temples on higher elevations. From Badrinath, its almost wiped off, but they are available at distance places in the area. Regards Pankaj
Re: [efloraofindia:43283] Ophioglossum sporangium
same question here, On 8/2/10, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to say, sporophyte is deformed, but wanted to know if the particular species has more than one leaf. Never seen multiple leaves in Ophioglossum before. Pankaj
[efloraofindia:43284] Re: Scrophulariaceae for ID? 010810-PKA1
For proper identification of Lindernia species it is importnat to have description of the capsules and number of stamens. L. crustacea is quiet common and i am sure this plant is not L. crustacea. Regards Satish Pardeshi On Aug 3, 11:24 am, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Gurcharan ji ... saw what you mean in Prashant's album at Picasa ...http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/02sbDF5PX2KEK8b7hihvDw Will wait for more comments to come to resolve ID of this plant. My closest possible capture is already attached; re-attaching for quick review. Regards. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Dinesh ji To me the true identity is still elusive!!. The calyx of Torenia indica is large and conspicuously winged, not seen in your photographs. May be close up of the flower, especially side view will resolve the issue. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Shrikant ji has resolved the ID to *Torenia indica*. Many thanks, Pankaj Joshi ji. Regards. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Joshi Pankaj joshi...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear All Group Members, May...*Lindernia ciliata*...we have also a same plant having pinkish purple flowers. *** Pankaj N. Joshi, Ph.D Jr. Scientist Gujarat Institute of Desert Ecology (GUIDE) Post Box # 83, Opp. Changleshwar Temple, Mundra Road, Bhuj- Kachchh Gujarat: 370 001 (India) Phone: +91 2832 235025, 329408; Fax: 235027 Cell: +91 94269 49523 Optional E-mail: pranav_pan...@rediffmail.com *** -- *From:* Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com *To:* Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com *Cc:* efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Mon, 2 August, 2010 6:51:48 PM *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:43205] Re: Scrophulariaceae for ID? 010810-PKA1 Dear friends, attaching a photo of same (exact) plant. Regards. On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Lindernia seems better to me for this..but I have never seen pinkish one before. Pankaj P1210938.jpg 89KViewDownload
[efloraofindia:43285] Re: Which Bramha-Kamal?
Subhan-allah Pankaj Miyaa! Kya tasveere hain! :-) - Tabish On Aug 3, 11:30 am, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: This is what the real Brahma Kamal looks like. Pic was taken at 4300m near Hemkunt Sahib. One pic shows Hemkunt sahib on the back side and the famous Gudwara too. Hope you will like it and hope Dr. Gurcharan will like the religious place. In hindu mythology its said that offering 1 brahma kamal is equivalent to offering 1000 roses to god! Name: Saussurea obvallata (DC.) Edgew. Family: Asteraceae Regards Pankaj Slide101.JPG 328KViewDownload Slide102.JPG 190KViewDownload Slide103.JPG 154KViewDownload
Re: [efloraofindia:43286] Re: Which Bramha-Kamal?
hehehehe, thats a restricted area. common people are not supposed to walk towards the otherside of the lake. But we went as a part of Forest Department. The smell is the most important thing which makes the plant so important. It is HIGHLY FRAGRANT even the leaves Regards Pankaj On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Tabish tabi...@gmail.com wrote: Subhan-allah Pankaj Miyaa! Kya tasveere hain! :-) - Tabish On Aug 3, 11:30 am, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: This is what the real Brahma Kamal looks like. Pic was taken at 4300m near Hemkunt Sahib. One pic shows Hemkunt sahib on the back side and the famous Gudwara too. Hope you will like it and hope Dr. Gurcharan will like the religious place. In hindu mythology its said that offering 1 brahma kamal is equivalent to offering 1000 roses to god! Name: Saussurea obvallata (DC.) Edgew. Family: Asteraceae Regards Pankaj Slide101.JPG 328KViewDownload Slide102.JPG 190KViewDownload Slide103.JPG 154KViewDownload
Re: [efloraofindia:43287] Fwd: [indiantreepix:25444] Wild Flower for ID-241209-RK-2
Hello to all, Above displayed species is newly discribed one which is accepted by NordicJournalof Botany and nothing but *Murdannia brownii *Nandikar Gurav *sp. nov.*. This species is closely allied to *M. versicolor *but differentiated by flesh coloured flowers and seed character. On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:50 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Rajni Ji, The Plant in the attached photograph is of *Murdannia lanuginosa (Wall. ex CBClarke) G.Brückn* (Commelinaceae). Regards Tanay On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:53 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote: Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl. Earlier relevant feedback: “Looks like Marsh Dewflower (Murdannia lanuginosa) http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Marsh%20Dewflower.html - Tabish” “Mudannia versicolor..?” from Parjanya ji. -- Forwarded message -- From: ranjini kamath ranjin...@gmail.com Date: 24 December 2009 08:59 Subject: [indiantreepix:25444] Wild Flower for ID-241209-RK-2 To: indiatreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com V.small flower-about 1 cm across,growing in tree-shade-only one flower found in bloom.Pic taken at 9.45 am on 09-12-09 in Thattekad [ Periyar bank],Kerala.Request ID. Thank you. Ranjini Kamath -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups indiantreepix group. To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comindiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. -- With regards, J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora Fauna' Image Resource of more than a thousand species of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group- Efloraofindia:http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups efloraofindia group. To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comindiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. -- Tanay Bose +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) 9830439691(Mobile) 9674221362 (Mobile) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups efloraofindia group. To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comindiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. -- Mr. Mayur D. Nandikar, Research Student, Department of Botany, Shivaji University, Kolhapur.
Re: [efloraofindia:43288] Which Bramha-Kamal?
These gorgeous flowers are the varieties of cactus most of these belong to Epiphyllum or commonly known as Orchid Cactus. This is not at all Brahma Kamal. In Maharashtra also many people think this as Brahmakamal as it flowers at midnight. With Regards, Narendra Joshi --- On Tue, 8/3/10, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com wrote: From: Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:43255] Which Bramha-Kamal? To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 11:22 AM Dear Group Members, I received these pictures from local newspaper claiming it as true Himalayan Bramha-Kamal. I have doubt. It looks like Cactus. Please confirm it. regards Pankaj Oudhia
Re: [efloraofindia:43289] Ficus carica from Kashmir
Hmmm! - Original Message - From: Gurcharan Singh To: efloraofindia ; Flowers of India Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 5:07 AM Subject: [efloraofindia:43244] Ficus carica from Kashmir Ficus carica from Kashmir, growing in our house in Balgarden Kashmir, an envy of the neighbours, producing large delicious figs often reaching 7 cm in length. I have yet to see as big figs elsewhere. Photographed on June 16, 2010. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
Re: [efloraofindia:43290] Re: MaharashtraPlant-ChandrapurDistrict-3
Dineshji, Satishji and Manshiji, Thankyou for your kind effort. Pankaj *** Pankaj N. Joshi, Ph.D Jr. Scientist Gujarat Institute of Desert Ecology (GUIDE) Post Box # 83, Opp. Changleshwar Temple, Mundra Road, Bhuj- Kachchh Gujarat: 370 001 (India) Phone: +91 2832 235025, 329408; Fax: 235027 Cell: +91 94269 49523 Optional E-mail: pranav_pan...@rediffmail.com *** From: Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com To: Pardeshi S. satishparde...@gmail.com Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, 3 August, 2010 12:56:25 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:43276] Re: MaharashtraPlant-ChandrapurDistrict-3 ... commonly known as: cut nut, freshwater mangrove, Indian putat, itchy tree, kandu almond, small Indian oak, wild almond • Bengali: হিজল hijala • Hindi: अब्ज abja, अदल adal, हिज्जल hijjal, निचुल nichul, पिचुल pichul, समुन्दरफल samundarphal • Kannada: ಹೊಳೆಕೋವೌಮರ holekovaumara • Konkani: इंग्ळी imgli • Malayalam: ആറ്റുപേഴ് aatupeezh, നീര്പ്പേഴ് niirppeezh • Marathi: धात्रीफळ dhatriphala, नेवर nevar, समुद्रफळ samudraphala • Oriya: hinjolo • Sanskrit: हिज्जल hijjala, निचुल nichul, पिचुल pichul, रक्तमन्जर raktamanjara, समुद्रफल samudraphala • Tamil: செங்கடம்பு cengkatampu, ஸமுத்திரப்பழம samudra pazham • Telugu: కడపచెట్టు kadapachettu Regards. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Pardeshi S. satishparde...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all it is Barringtonia acutangula (L.) Gaertn. Fruct. 2: 97, t. 101, 1791; Cl. in Hook.f., Fl. Brit. Ind. 2: 508, 1878; Cooke, Fl. Pres. Bombay 2: 528, 1958 (Repr.); Almeida, Fl. Mah. 2: 256, 1998; Pradhan et al, Fl. SGNP 271, 2005. Synonyms: Eugenia acutangula L., Sp. 673, 1753. Stravadium acutangulum Miers., Trans. L. Soc Serv. 2, Bot. 1: 80, 1875. Stravadium rheedii Miers, I.c. 82, 1875. Common names: Indian Oak, Dhatriphal, Tivar, Ingli. Note: Pradhan et al. Flora of Sanjay Gandhi National Park, BSI, (2005) treated genus Barringtonia Frost Frost. in Family Barringtoniaceae. Barringtonia Forst. Forst. (nom. cons) Barringtoniaceae F. Rudolphi, Syst. Orb. Veg.: 56. 5-12 Jul 1830, nom. cons. is included in the list of validly published families (Reveal, L. J., 2007 in Indices Nominum Supragenericorum Plantarum Vascularium www.plantsystematics.org.). Regards Satish Pardeshi On Aug 3, 11:40 am, manasikaran manasika...@gmail.com wrote: hello Pankaj ji, i looks like Barringtonia acutangula from family Lecythidaceae... regards manasi * * http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantab/barringrac.htm On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Joshi Pankaj joshi...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear All Group Members, Pl. ID this plant: Habit: Tree Habitat: Near strembed Terrain: Rocky Thankyou, Pankaj *** Pankaj N. Joshi, Ph.D Jr. Scientist Gujarat Institute of Desert Ecology (GUIDE) Post Box # 83, Opp. Changleshwar Temple, Mundra Road, Bhuj- Kachchh Gujarat: 370 001 (India) Phone: +91 2832 235025, 329408; Fax: 235027 Cell: +91 94269 49523 Optional E-mail: pranav_pan...@rediffmail.com ***
Re: [efloraofindia:43291] Re: Which Bramha-Kamal?
Greetings, *the original post is on **Epiphyllum oxypetalum (orchid cactus:flowersofindia) as *It is also referred to as *Night blooming Cereus* to me is the right term should be, I had photographed them from bud-life till they bloomed in12 in the midnight and then at 6 in the morning, but failed to share them. This year;Becasue of negligence we have to trimmed off the leaves/cactus. Believe me the (blind?) belief of blooming of *Epiphyllum oxypetalum in once in *seven years is so much in common people that i have seen in my colony that ; high designated citizens have invited their friends, relatives for pooja of this *Epiphyllum oxypetalum (orchid cactus) / the **Night blooming Cereus.* *Thanks goes to these online help and groups like efloraofindia,gardentia, flowersofindia; who forces us to confirm the information available before fixing up in our mind.* Sorry for this long note, Regards, geeta rane PS: FYI: In whole of VOF program; Mr Pankaj Kumarji's (photo of) Brahama-kamal -Saussure obvallata (DC.) Edgew,, a high altitude plant of Himalayas is one of the attraction for the visitors/trekkers appealed by organisers,thanks geeta. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:58 PM, Tabish tabi...@gmail.com wrote: Subhan-allah Pankaj Miyaa! Kya tasveere hain! :-) - Tabish
Re: [efloraofindia:43292] Kaas is Beautiful - 3
In Marathi Khadak Ambadi leaves are sour like a leafy vegetable called Ambadi. Madhuri From: Swagat swagat1...@gmail.com To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, 2 August, 2010 8:50:13 PM Subject: [efloraofindia:43213] Kaas is Beautiful - 3 Dear all, Request for ID Date/Time- *30th Jully 2010, 08.00 a.m.* Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- *Kaas Pathar, Dist. Satara, Maharashtra कास पठार, जि.- सातारा, महाराष्ट्र* Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- *Wild* Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Herb Height/Length- Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- Inflorescence Type/ Size- Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- Regards, ~Swagat 9223217568 / 9422317979 -- 'I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do.' - Helen Keller
[efloraofindia:43293] What do you think?
Hallo all, today I read that 28 new places are now included in the list of UNESCO World Heritage. Kaas, NE-India, Hemkunt Sahib or other parts of India are so beautiful, they are worth adding to the list of Natural Heritage. Under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Heritage_Site the nominating process is described. So I feel in a democracy people can take the initiative, and approach the govt. bodies and convince them that they should nominate the sites like kaas, for the natural heritage list. What do you think? pro / contra? Regards Nalini
Re: [efloraofindia:43294] What do you think?
Hi Nalini ji, Valley of flowers is already a world heritage site. When I visited the valley with BNHS in August 2002, it was being spruced up for inspection. regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:23 PM, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote: Hallo all, today I read that 28 new places are now included in the list of *UNESCO World Heritage.* Kaas, NE-India, Hemkunt Sahib or other parts of India are so beautiful, they are worth adding to the list of * Natural Heritage.* Under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Heritage_Site the nominating process is described. So I feel in a democracy people can take the initiative, and approach the govt. bodies and convince them that they should nominate the sites like kaas, for the natural heritage list. What do you think? pro / contra? Regards Nalini
Re: [efloraofindia:43295] What do you think?
That is true Rashida ji, Nanda Devi and Valley of flowers is in the list. But I would like to see a few more! Regards Nalini - Original Message - From: Rashida Atthar To: nabha meghani Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:43293] What do you think? Hi Nalini ji, Valley of flowers is already a world heritage site. When I visited the valley with BNHS in August 2002, it was being spruced up for inspection. regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:23 PM, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote: Hallo all, today I read that 28 new places are now included in the list of UNESCO World Heritage. Kaas, NE-India, Hemkunt Sahib or other parts of India are so beautiful, they are worth adding to the list of Natural Heritage. Under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Heritage_Site the nominating process is described. So I feel in a democracy people can take the initiative, and approach the govt. bodies and convince them that they should nominate the sites like kaas, for the natural heritage list. What do you think? pro / contra? Regards Nalini
Re: [efloraofindia:43296] Advice please
Wow Mani ji you are a store- house of practical knowledge and tips ! Thanks Sushmita ji and Mani ji, I too am motivated to try growing chilies now at home ! regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:02 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: It could be also because of inferior seeds. Next time try to select healthy seeds from the dried chilli pods and put the seeds in sunlight. You can put some seeds in water and the ones which are healthy will go down and which are not healthy will float on the water. I have tried to grow the plant from the chillies from Mumbai market and was successful. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:56 PM, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.comwrote: may be because of no pollination . On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, I have several chillie plants growing in my terrace garden germinated out of seeds of Andhra chillies bought in Hyderabad last year. They are quite bushy and healthy, specially after the rains, with lots of flowers, which happened last year too, but chillie output has been/is almost zero. I would very much appreciate advice on what the reason might be and how I may have the flowers come to fruition. I apologise if this is not the right forum to ask such a question. Many thanks. Sushmita Jha
Re: [efloraofindia:43297] Advice please
Thanks Rashida ji, Since childhood whenever I got the seeds of any fruits or vegetables I used to put in soil and observed its growth until flowering and fruiting. Chillis and tomatoes were one of my favorite as they do not require any special care and flowered early. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote: Wow Mani ji you are a store- house of practical knowledge and tips ! Thanks Sushmita ji and Mani ji, I too am motivated to try growing chilies now at home ! regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:02 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: It could be also because of inferior seeds. Next time try to select healthy seeds from the dried chilli pods and put the seeds in sunlight. You can put some seeds in water and the ones which are healthy will go down and which are not healthy will float on the water. I have tried to grow the plant from the chillies from Mumbai market and was successful. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:56 PM, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.comwrote: may be because of no pollination . On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, I have several chillie plants growing in my terrace garden germinated out of seeds of Andhra chillies bought in Hyderabad last year. They are quite bushy and healthy, specially after the rains, with lots of flowers, which happened last year too, but chillie output has been/is almost zero. I would very much appreciate advice on what the reason might be and how I may have the flowers come to fruition. I apologise if this is not the right forum to ask such a question. Many thanks. Sushmita Jha
Re: [efloraofindia:43298] Fwd: [indiantreepix:25444] Wild Flower for ID-241209-RK-2
Mayur ji It is good to know that you have described a species new to science. Just interested to know whether the print of the issue of Nordic Journal of Botany has come out or not. Congratulations for this new discovery. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Mayur Nandikar mayurnandi...@gmail.comwrote: Hello to all, Above displayed species is newly discribed one which is accepted by NordicJournalof Botany and nothing but *Murdannia brownii *Nandikar Gurav *sp. nov.*. This species is closely allied to *M. versicolor *but differentiated by flesh coloured flowers and seed character. On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:50 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Rajni Ji, The Plant in the attached photograph is of *Murdannia lanuginosa (Wall. ex CBClarke) G.Brückn* (Commelinaceae). Regards Tanay On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:53 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote: Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl. Earlier relevant feedback: “Looks like Marsh Dewflower (Murdannia lanuginosa) http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Marsh%20Dewflower.html - Tabish” “Mudannia versicolor..?” from Parjanya ji. -- Forwarded message -- From: ranjini kamath ranjin...@gmail.com Date: 24 December 2009 08:59 Subject: [indiantreepix:25444] Wild Flower for ID-241209-RK-2 To: indiatreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com V.small flower-about 1 cm across,growing in tree-shade-only one flower found in bloom.Pic taken at 9.45 am on 09-12-09 in Thattekad [ Periyar bank],Kerala.Request ID. Thank you. Ranjini Kamath -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups indiantreepix group. To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comindiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. -- With regards, J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora Fauna' Image Resource of more than a thousand species of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group- Efloraofindia:http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups efloraofindia group. To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comindiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. -- Tanay Bose +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) 9830439691(Mobile) 9674221362 (Mobile) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups efloraofindia group. To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comindiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. -- Mr. Mayur D. Nandikar, Research Student, Department of Botany, Shivaji University, Kolhapur.
Re: [efloraofindia:43301] Advice please
Thanks Rashida ji, you all are welcome. Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote: Good to know this. Now the group is enriched by your experience. ! regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:53 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Rashida ji, Since childhood whenever I got the seeds of any fruits or vegetables I used to put in soil and observed its growth until flowering and fruiting. Chillis and tomatoes were one of my favorite as they do not require any special care and flowered early. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote: Wow Mani ji you are a store- house of practical knowledge and tips ! Thanks Sushmita ji and Mani ji, I too am motivated to try growing chilies now at home ! regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:02 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: It could be also because of inferior seeds. Next time try to select healthy seeds from the dried chilli pods and put the seeds in sunlight. You can put some seeds in water and the ones which are healthy will go down and which are not healthy will float on the water. I have tried to grow the plant from the chillies from Mumbai market and was successful. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:56 PM, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.com wrote: may be because of no pollination . On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, I have several chillie plants growing in my terrace garden germinated out of seeds of Andhra chillies bought in Hyderabad last year. They are quite bushy and healthy, specially after the rains, with lots of flowers, which happened last year too, but chillie output has been/is almost zero. I would very much appreciate advice on what the reason might be and how I may have the flowers come to fruition. I apologise if this is not the right forum to ask such a question. Many thanks. Sushmita Jha
Re: [efloraofindia:43303] Advice please
Thank you all, particularly Mr Mani, for their very enriching conversation and advice. I will most certainly stored all of this in my hard disk! Regards, Sushmita On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:11 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Rashida ji, you all are welcome. Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote: Good to know this. Now the group is enriched by your experience. ! regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:53 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Rashida ji, Since childhood whenever I got the seeds of any fruits or vegetables I used to put in soil and observed its growth until flowering and fruiting. Chillis and tomatoes were one of my favorite as they do not require any special care and flowered early. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote: Wow Mani ji you are a store- house of practical knowledge and tips ! Thanks Sushmita ji and Mani ji, I too am motivated to try growing chilies now at home ! regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:02 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: It could be also because of inferior seeds. Next time try to select healthy seeds from the dried chilli pods and put the seeds in sunlight. You can put some seeds in water and the ones which are healthy will go down and which are not healthy will float on the water. I have tried to grow the plant from the chillies from Mumbai market and was successful. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:56 PM, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.com wrote: may be because of no pollination . On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I have several chillie plants growing in my terrace garden germinated out of seeds of Andhra chillies bought in Hyderabad last year. They are quite bushy and healthy, specially after the rains, with lots of flowers, which happened last year too, but chillie output has been/is almost zero. I would very much appreciate advice on what the reason might be and how I may have the flowers come to fruition. I apologise if this is not the right forum to ask such a question. Many thanks. Sushmita Jha
Re: [efloraofindia:43304] Advice please
Mani ji, i have problems with growing koriander, Dhania-seeds either dont germinate or don't grow. What should i do? Regards Nalini - Original Message - From: mani nair To: Rashida Atthar Cc: ajinkya gadave ; Sushmita Jha ; indiantreepix Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:43301] Advice please Thanks Rashida ji, you all are welcome. Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote: Good to know this. Now the group is enriched by your experience. ! regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:53 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Rashida ji, Since childhood whenever I got the seeds of any fruits or vegetables I used to put in soil and observed its growth until flowering and fruiting. Chillis and tomatoes were one of my favorite as they do not require any special care and flowered early. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com wrote: Wow Mani ji you are a store- house of practical knowledge and tips ! Thanks Sushmita ji and Mani ji, I too am motivated to try growing chilies now at home ! regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:02 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: It could be also because of inferior seeds. Next time try to select healthy seeds from the dried chilli pods and put the seeds in sunlight. You can put some seeds in water and the ones which are healthy will go down and which are not healthy will float on the water. I have tried to grow the plant from the chillies from Mumbai market and was successful. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:56 PM, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.com wrote: may be because of no pollination . On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I have several chillie plants growing in my terrace garden germinated out of seeds of Andhra chillies bought in Hyderabad last year. They are quite bushy and healthy, specially after the rains, with lots of flowers, which happened last year too, but chillie output has been/is almost zero. I would very much appreciate advice on what the reason might be and how I may have the flowers come to fruition. I apologise if this is not the right forum to ask such a question. Many thanks. Sushmita Jha
Re: [efloraofindia:43306] Chloroxylon swietenia from Chhattisgarh
Thanks Mani ji.It is polyphagus insect. See this gentleman on Psoralea corylifolia leaf. http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbPdbID=47528 regards Pankaj Oudhia On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:56 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: Pankaj ji nice photo of the leaves of Chloroxylon swietenia and the caterpillar feeding on the leaves. It is the caterpillar of the Common Lime Butterfly (Papilio demoleus). Chloroxylon swietenia is one of its host plant. The other host plants are Cultivated Limehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lime_%28fruit%29 (from which the butterfly got its name) Aegle marmeloshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aegle_marmelos , Murraya koenigii http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murraya_koenigii , Baelhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bael and Ber. I am attaching the photo of the butterfly on a lemon tree at our balcony. Regards, Mani. widespread Swallowtailhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swallowtail_butterfly butterfly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly. It gets its name from its host plants which are usually citrus species such as the lime. Unlike most swallowtail butterflies it does not have a prominent tail. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Gurcharan ji. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Really nice collection of photographs, Pankaj ji. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/ On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Group Members, Today I was in forest and here are some pictures I have taken forest of Raipur district. Insect on Chloroxylon My recent work on Chloroxylon swietenia http://www.google.com/#hl=ensafe=offq=+site:www.pankajoudhia.com+chloroxylon+oudhiasa=Xei=QOtWTMXyGcmXrAeY2PzyAwved=0CAIQqAQwAgfp=f138fb080d26c5b5 More pictures http://ecoport.org/ep?SearchType=pdbSubject=Chloroxylon+swieteniaContributor=oudhiaThumbnails=OnlyContributorWild=CO regards Pankaj Oudhia
Re: [efloraofindia:43307] What do you think?
Is Silent Valley in the list? It is in Kerala and as the name it is very silent - not even the sound of crickets. Regars, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:42 PM, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote: That is true Rashida ji, Nanda Devi and Valley of flowers is in the list. But I would like to see a few more! Regards Nalini - Original Message - *From:* Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.com *To:* nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de *Cc:* indiantreepix@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, August 03, 2010 11:56 AM *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:43293] What do you think? Hi Nalini ji, Valley of flowers is already a world heritage site. When I visited the valley with BNHS in August 2002, it was being spruced up for inspection. regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:23 PM, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.dewrote: Hallo all, today I read that 28 new places are now included in the list of *UNESCO World Heritage.* Kaas, NE-India, Hemkunt Sahib or other parts of India are so beautiful, they are worth adding to the list of * Natural Heritage.* Under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Heritage_Site the nominating process is described. So I feel in a democracy people can take the initiative, and approach the govt. bodies and convince them that they should nominate the sites like kaas, for the natural heritage list. What do you think? pro / contra? Regards Nalini
Re: [efloraofindia:43309] Re: Scrophulariaceae for ID? 010810-PKA1
Pradeshi ji Neil ji With L. ciliata out of picture because of its distinctive spine-tipped leaf margin, and comparing with species on FOI website, L. crustacea seems to be the closest call. But we have to keep in mind the opinion of Pardeshi ji who is so familiar with the plants of the area. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Prof.Singh, Would say that Lindernia ciliata is one of the commonest of the species around here. Sending one of my photographs for comparison. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Tue, 8/3/10, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:43280] Re: Scrophulariaceae for ID? 010810-PKA1 To: Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.com Cc: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 1:10 PM Perhaps it would be interesting to know the species of Lindernia reported from the region. Lindernia appears to be the likely choice. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Smilax004 giby.kuriak...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=giby.kuriak...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Undoubtedly it is Lindernia sp (Scrophulariaceae), although am not able to reach the species without having the specimen in hand. You need details of capsules as well for species id. Regards, Giby On Aug 3, 11:24 am, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Gurcharan ji ... saw what you mean in Prashant's album at Picasa ... http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/02sbDF5PX2KEK8b7hihvDw Will wait for more comments to come to resolve ID of this plant. My closest possible capture is already attached; re-attaching for quick review. Regards. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=singh...@gmail.com wrote: Dinesh ji To me the true identity is still elusive!!. The calyx of Torenia indica is large and conspicuously winged, not seen in your photographs. May be close up of the flower, especially side view will resolve the issue. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Shrikant ji has resolved the ID to *Torenia indica*. Many thanks, Pankaj Joshi ji. Regards. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Joshi Pankaj joshi...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=joshi...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear All Group Members, May...*Lindernia ciliata*...we have also a same plant having pinkish purple flowers. *** Pankaj N. Joshi, Ph.D Jr. Scientist Gujarat Institute of Desert Ecology (GUIDE) Post Box # 83, Opp. Changleshwar Temple, Mundra Road, Bhuj- Kachchh Gujarat: 370 001 (India) Phone: +91 2832 235025, 329408; Fax: 235027 Cell: +91 94269 49523 Optional E-mail: pranav_pan...@rediffmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pranav_pan...@rediffmail.com *** -- *From:* Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dinesh.va...@gmail.com *To:* Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sahanipan...@gmail.com *Cc:* efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantree...@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Mon, 2 August, 2010 6:51:48 PM *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:43205] Re: Scrophulariaceae for ID? 010810-PKA1 Dear friends, attaching a photo of same (exact) plant. Regards. On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Lindernia seems better to me for this..but I have never seen pinkish one before. Pankaj P1210938.jpg 89KViewDownload
Re: [efloraofindia:43310] Re: please id this medicinal plant
Dear Nalini one of my friend told us once that we will meet near a perticular Ficus tree. We all said there is no Ficus there, she started telling all the clues from which we could understand that she was telling about Cycus and not Ficus. We laughted. She said kya thumhare nam yar Cycus ho ya Ficus. ZAD to Hai. Latter after a few days same friend said we will meet under rain tree at a specific spot, and we were surprised to know that she has learned few trees. Just felt like narrating this and pulling leg of Tanay further. We all admire him that he is great in identifying plants(and he is no doubt or second thought for it). But one fine day he send a mail of Chilly flowers and ask id. When id was told he writes how can it be ? these plants are growing like weeds in his backyard. then he was told to wait and watch. Now he says lots of chillies do come to his weeds. HaHaHaHaHahahahahahaha Sorry Tanay but could not resist to pull your leg Madhuri From: Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com To: nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de Cc: tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com; arjunan dobighazam...@gmail.com; mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com; Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com; efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, 2 August, 2010 7:00:25 AM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:43142] Re: please id this medicinal plant Nalini ji This is why I love this group. There are people with little or no botanical knowledge, but their knowledge about plants is amazing. Your knowledge about plants, I suppose is second to none, and your enthusiasm unparalleled. That is the beauty of the nature. You can know it if you have desire to do so. I remember, when I was struggling to differentiate various species of Brassica, my mother showed me few days old young plants with barely three or four leaves and could tell me difference between what we call mustards and coles. I have learnt many things about plants from her, and imagine she never went to school. Here on our group also there are several nonbotanists, Garg ji, Dinesh ji, Tabish ji, Yazdy ji, you, to name a few (others pl. excuse me for not naming them) who are both the engine and the oil for this group. We are lucky to be the part of this group. Perhaps my interest in plants (nature) would not have been renewed, had I not joined this group. I would have remained at armchair botanist. This group has also changed working style of we botanists (at least me). Earlier if we got a new plant, we would collect our books, get hold of microscope, needle, brush and blade, and sit for hours to identify the unknown plant, and may still be sometimes unsuccessful, and then send the plant or photograph to an expert or a mailing group (TAXACOM was my favourite then). Now I do the reverse. Whenever, I get a new plant, I immediately send the photograph to our group, and ninety per cent of the times or more I get identification (or important clues) within minutes. Only if I don't get identification here, I sit with the plant and books/internet, or enlarge photograph on my computer and attempt its identification. The group has also changed my working philosophy. We were told by our elders/teachers that you should tell the identification only if you are 100 % sure. If we follow this policy, not 10 % of plants would get identified. We here have invented a new strategy (and I advocate it strongly), just throw a wild guess (don't hesitate about it), it will initiate rigorous search by other members to reach the correct identity. And this I think is the trademark of this group. And this we do exchanging light hearted comments to keep the spirit on. There was a lot of knowledge and goodwill involved about the LATIN NAMKARAN CEREMONY OF DINESH JI YESTERDAY. Let the spirit continue, and as they say IS GROUP KO KISSI KI NAZAR NA LAG JAI -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:09 AM, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote: Thank you Prof. Singh ji for clearing the doubts. I have really no idea about the different varieties and species etc. etc. I can differenciate between sunflower and oxalis, there ends my knowledge. I just enjoy looking at the flowers and the insects. So I am really glad that the exact identification is done by experts in this group Thanks again to you. Tanay ji, I really admire your enthusiasm, I thought you would be packing your suitcase, but you are IDing Flowers. Great! Bon Voyage, Gute Reise, Have a nice journey. Nalini
Re: [efloraofindia:43311] What do you think?
Hier ist the list: http://whc.unesco.org/en/list yes silent Valley should also be a candidate. Let us start doing something that more sites wfrom india will be added. Regards Nalini - Original Message - From: mani nair To: nabha meghani Cc: Rashida Atthar ; indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:43307] What do you think? Is Silent Valley in the list? It is in Kerala and as the name it is very silent - not even the sound of crickets. Regars, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:42 PM, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote: That is true Rashida ji, Nanda Devi and Valley of flowers is in the list. But I would like to see a few more! Regards Nalini - Original Message - From: Rashida Atthar To: nabha meghani Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:43293] What do you think? Hi Nalini ji, Valley of flowers is already a world heritage site. When I visited the valley with BNHS in August 2002, it was being spruced up for inspection. regards, Rashida. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:23 PM, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote: Hallo all, today I read that 28 new places are now included in the list of UNESCO World Heritage. Kaas, NE-India, Hemkunt Sahib or other parts of India are so beautiful, they are worth adding to the list of Natural Heritage. Under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Heritage_Site the nominating process is described. So I feel in a democracy people can take the initiative, and approach the govt. bodies and convince them that they should nominate the sites like kaas, for the natural heritage list. What do you think? pro / contra? Regards Nalini
Re: [efloraofindia:43312] Re: please id this medicinal plant
Sorry Madhuri ji Your attempt to pull his legs failed, as he will not be reading mails for next few days. But who knows, he is Tanay and may start his interactions, once he reaches Canadian shores. I really love this boy for his intelligence, sincerity and boldness. He is really centre of attraction in this group. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.comwrote: Dear Nalini one of my friend told us once that we will meet near a perticular Ficus tree. We all said there is no Ficus there, she started telling all the clues from which we could understand that she was telling about Cycus and not Ficus. We laughted. She said kya thumhare nam yar Cycus ho ya Ficus. ZAD to Hai. Latter after a few days same friend said we will meet under rain tree at a specific spot, and we were surprised to know that she has learned few trees. Just felt like narrating this and pulling leg of Tanay further. We all admire him that he is great in identifying plants(and he is no doubt or second thought for it). But one fine day he send a mail of Chilly flowers and ask id. When id was told he writes how can it be ? these plants are growing like weeds in his backyard. then he was told to wait and watch. Now he says lots of chillies do come to his weeds. HaHaHaHaHahahahahahaha Sorry Tanay but could not resist to pull your leg Madhuri -- *From:* Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com *To:* nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de *Cc:* tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com; arjunan dobighazam...@gmail.com; mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com; Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com; efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Mon, 2 August, 2010 7:00:25 AM *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:43142] Re: please id this medicinal plant Nalini ji This is why I love this group. There are people with little or no botanical knowledge, but their knowledge about plants is amazing. Your knowledge about plants, I suppose is second to none, and your enthusiasm unparalleled. That is the beauty of the nature. You can know it if you have desire to do so. I remember, when I was struggling to differentiate various species of Brassica, my mother showed me few days old young plants with barely three or four leaves and could tell me difference between what we call mustards and coles. I have learnt many things about plants from her, and imagine she never went to school. Here on our group also there are several nonbotanists, Garg ji, Dinesh ji, Tabish ji, Yazdy ji, you, to name a few (others pl. excuse me for not naming them) who are both the engine and the oil for this group. We are lucky to be the part of this group. Perhaps my interest in plants (nature) would not have been renewed, had I not joined this group. I would have remained at armchair botanist. This group has also changed working style of we botanists (at least me). Earlier if we got a new plant, we would collect our books, get hold of microscope, needle, brush and blade, and sit for hours to identify the unknown plant, and may still be sometimes unsuccessful, and then send the plant or photograph to an expert or a mailing group (TAXACOM was my favourite then). Now I do the reverse. Whenever, I get a new plant, I immediately send the photograph to our group, and ninety per cent of the times or more I get identification (or important clues) within minutes. Only if I don't get identification here, I sit with the plant and books/internet, or enlarge photograph on my computer and attempt its identification. The group has also changed my working philosophy. We were told by our elders/teachers that you should tell the identification only if you are 100 % sure. If we follow this policy, not 10 % of plants would get identified. We here have invented a new strategy (and I advocate it strongly), just throw a wild guess (don't hesitate about it), it will initiate rigorous search by other members to reach the correct identity. And this I think is the trademark of this group. And this we do exchanging light hearted comments to keep the spirit on. There was a lot of knowledge and goodwill involved about the LATIN NAMKARAN CEREMONY OF DINESH JI YESTERDAY. Let the spirit continue, and as they say IS GROUP KO KISSI KI NAZAR NA LAG JAI -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089
Re: [efloraofindia:43313] Re: A fruit from Dibrugarh
Sorry, Gurcharan ji, we were so engrossed in collecting and eating the fallen fruits, we forgot only to take photographs of the tree and fruits. I have one friend who lives near Chashmeshahi Gardens. Let me confirms which tree is that and I will come back to you. Regards, Mani. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Mani ji No chance of this fruit in Srinagar. Basically a plant east of Nepal. Never seen in Kashmir. Pl. do upload if you have photographs from Srinagar. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/ On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 1:35 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen this fruit and tree in Chashmeshahi Gardens, Srinagar. The fruit is very delecious. Regards, Mani. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:53 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: Baccaurea sapida indeed!! Tanay On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Ritesh Choudhary ritesh@gmail.comwrote: Baccaurea sapida Ritesh. On Aug 2, 2:38 am, raghu ananth raghu_...@yahoo.com wrote: A fruit that I bought from a villager in Dibrugarh weekly market...inside there are four pods (just like garlic) and the juice is sucked from the pod-like structures...little sour, more sweet...delicious and addictive indeed. 100 gms - Rs. 10/- ( the villager seemed to be liberal, he gave us about 400 gms for the same price. This was more than adequate to relish during our 75kms journey to Naharkatia, Fruit size : 2.5cms to 3cms, Regards Raghu Am sorry, I misplaced the pocket note book this time in which I recorded local fruit names. DSC_4084a.jpg 142KViewDownload DSC_4084c.jpg 139KViewDownload DSC_4085b.jpg 170KViewDownload -- Tanay Bose +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) 9830439691(Mobile)
Re: [efloraofindia:43314] End of Season- Habenaria grandifloriformis
hahahahaactually thats what i call EXPERIENCE, just kidding.u can see the swollen ribs of the ovary, when you will see the normal ovary size then you can make out if there is change in the current ovary size and that can happen only after fertilization otherwise they usually tend to shrink, or change their colour too to yellow. Pankaj On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Padmini Raghavan padi...@gmail.com wrote: How can you make out that BOTH have been fertilised? Please explain. Thanks, Padmini Raghavan. On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Luckily both have been fertilized successfully. Congrats to both flowers and to you for taking pictures Regards Pankaj
Re: [efloraofindia:43315] Re: please id this medicinal plant
Yes Sir We will miss his letters for a few days. Madhuri Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel -Original Message- From: Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com Sender: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 21:57:14 To: Madhuri Pejaverformpeja...@yahoo.com Cc: nabha meghaninabha-megh...@gmx.de; tanay bosetanaybos...@gmail.com; arjunandobighazam...@gmail.com; mani nairmani.na...@gmail.com; Pankaj Kumarsahanipan...@gmail.com; efloraofindiaindiantreepix@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:43312] Re: please id this medicinal plant Sorry Madhuri ji Your attempt to pull his legs failed, as he will not be reading mails for next few days. But who knows, he is Tanay and may start his interactions, once he reaches Canadian shores. I really love this boy for his intelligence, sincerity and boldness. He is really centre of attraction in this group. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.comwrote: Dear Nalini one of my friend told us once that we will meet near a perticular Ficus tree. We all said there is no Ficus there, she started telling all the clues from which we could understand that she was telling about Cycus and not Ficus. We laughted. She said kya thumhare nam yar Cycus ho ya Ficus. ZAD to Hai. Latter after a few days same friend said we will meet under rain tree at a specific spot, and we were surprised to know that she has learned few trees. Just felt like narrating this and pulling leg of Tanay further. We all admire him that he is great in identifying plants(and he is no doubt or second thought for it). But one fine day he send a mail of Chilly flowers and ask id. When id was told he writes how can it be ? these plants are growing like weeds in his backyard. then he was told to wait and watch. Now he says lots of chillies do come to his weeds. HaHaHaHaHahahahahahaha Sorry Tanay but could not resist to pull your leg Madhuri -- *From:* Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com *To:* nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de *Cc:* tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com; arjunan dobighazam...@gmail.com; mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com; Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com; efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Mon, 2 August, 2010 7:00:25 AM *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:43142] Re: please id this medicinal plant Nalini ji This is why I love this group. There are people with little or no botanical knowledge, but their knowledge about plants is amazing. Your knowledge about plants, I suppose is second to none, and your enthusiasm unparalleled. That is the beauty of the nature. You can know it if you have desire to do so. I remember, when I was struggling to differentiate various species of Brassica, my mother showed me few days old young plants with barely three or four leaves and could tell me difference between what we call mustards and coles. I have learnt many things about plants from her, and imagine she never went to school. Here on our group also there are several nonbotanists, Garg ji, Dinesh ji, Tabish ji, Yazdy ji, you, to name a few (others pl. excuse me for not naming them) who are both the engine and the oil for this group. We are lucky to be the part of this group. Perhaps my interest in plants (nature) would not have been renewed, had I not joined this group. I would have remained at armchair botanist. This group has also changed working style of we botanists (at least me). Earlier if we got a new plant, we would collect our books, get hold of microscope, needle, brush and blade, and sit for hours to identify the unknown plant, and may still be sometimes unsuccessful, and then send the plant or photograph to an expert or a mailing group (TAXACOM was my favourite then). Now I do the reverse. Whenever, I get a new plant, I immediately send the photograph to our group, and ninety per cent of the times or more I get identification (or important clues) within minutes. Only if I don't get identification here, I sit with the plant and books/internet, or enlarge photograph on my computer and attempt its identification. The group has also changed my working philosophy. We were told by our elders/teachers that you should tell the identification only if you are 100 % sure. If we follow this policy, not 10 % of plants would get identified. We here have invented a new strategy (and I advocate it strongly), just throw a wild guess (don't hesitate about it), it will initiate rigorous search by other members to reach the correct identity. And this I think is the trademark of this group. And this we do exchanging light hearted comments to keep the spirit on. There was a lot of knowledge and goodwill involved about the LATIN NAMKARAN
Re: [efloraofindia:43316] Advice please
Dear Sushmita, My friend too has grown chilli plants from dried chilli pods and keeping the seeds in sunlight and has been using chilies from the same plants in the kitchen. But i did not know how to chk healthy and unhealthy seeds. Mani ji, thank u very much for the tip. Cheers, Shubhada I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do. From: mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com To: ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.com Cc: Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.com; indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, 3 August, 2010 1:02:54 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:43279] Advice please It could be also because of inferior seeds. Next time try to select healthy seeds from the dried chilli pods and put the seeds in sunlight. You can put some seeds in water and the ones which are healthy will go down and which are not healthy will float on the water. I have tried to grow the plant from the chillies from Mumbai market and was successful. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:56 PM, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.com wrote: may be because of no pollination . On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I have several chillie plants growing in my terrace garden germinated out of seeds of Andhra chillies bought in Hyderabad last year. They are quite bushy and healthy, specially after the rains, with lots of flowers, which happened last year too, but chillie output has been/is almost zero. I would very much appreciate advice on what the reason might be and how I may have the flowers come to fruition. I apologise if this is not the right forum to ask such a question. Many thanks. Sushmita Jha
Re: [efloraofindia:43317] Fwd: [indiantreepix:25444] Wild Flower for ID-241209-RK-2
Thank you all- specially Mayur ji on this latest important update. Regards Ranjini Kamath On 8/3/10, Mayur Nandikar mayurnandi...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you to all, Hereby, I am attaching the image and illustration of *Murdannia brownii *and *M. versicolor* Sir, this species yet to publish, but in forthcumin issues of Nordic Journal of Botany it will be published in early view of publication. Etymology:The species is named after eminent Scottish botanist Robert Brown in appreciation of his great contribution to Commelinaceae. and Special thnx to Rajani ji, because of her, we can easily comment on the wide spread population (upto Kerala). On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Mayur ji It is good to know that you have described a species new to science. Just interested to know whether the print of the issue of Nordic Journal of Botany has come out or not. Congratulations for this new discovery. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Mayur Nandikar mayurnandi...@gmail.comwrote: Hello to all, Above displayed species is newly discribed one which is accepted by NordicJournalof Botany and nothing but *Murdannia brownii *Nandikar Gurav *sp. nov.*. This species is closely allied to *M. versicolor *but differentiated by flesh coloured flowers and seed character. On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:50 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Rajni Ji, The Plant in the attached photograph is of *Murdannia lanuginosa (Wall. ex CBClarke) G.Brückn* (Commelinaceae). Regards Tanay On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:53 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote: Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl. Earlier relevant feedback: “Looks like Marsh Dewflower (Murdannia lanuginosa) http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Marsh%20Dewflower.html - Tabish” “Mudannia versicolor..?” from Parjanya ji. -- Forwarded message -- From: ranjini kamath ranjin...@gmail.com Date: 24 December 2009 08:59 Subject: [indiantreepix:25444] Wild Flower for ID-241209-RK-2 To: indiatreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com V.small flower-about 1 cm across,growing in tree-shade-only one flower found in bloom.Pic taken at 9.45 am on 09-12-09 in Thattekad [ Periyar bank],Kerala.Request ID. Thank you. Ranjini Kamath -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups indiantreepix group. To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comindiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. -- With regards, J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora Fauna' Image Resource of more than a thousand species of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group- Efloraofindia:http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups efloraofindia group. To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comindiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. -- Tanay Bose +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) 9830439691(Mobile) 9674221362 (Mobile) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups efloraofindia group. To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comindiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. -- Mr. Mayur D. Nandikar, Research Student, Department of Botany, Shivaji University, Kolhapur. -- Mr. Mayur D. Nandikar, Research Student, Department of Botany, Shivaji University, Kolhapur.
[efloraofindia:43320] Need some references
Hi friends! This is Rahul Mungikar from Pune and I am working for my Ph.D. I need a help from all of you. Can any one send me the papers / publications regarding 'vegetation on slopes of hills (scree vegetation)' and 'history of vegetation mapping (by GIS or GPS) in India'. Sincerely thanks to all in advance. Waiting for your relply Thank you Rahul R Mungikar Mobile 9822611128
Re: [efloraofindia:43321] Advice please
shubhada jee very simple u can use floating test for healthy and unhealthy seeds.take small pot or bowl with full of water and put all the seeds in it seeds float if they're no good, and good seeds sink. very simple [?] thanks On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 8:12 AM, shubhada nikharge shubhada_nikha...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Dear Sushmita, My friend too has grown chilli plants from dried chilli pods and keeping the seeds in sunlight and has been using chilies from the same plants in the kitchen. But i did not know how to chk healthy and unhealthy seeds. Mani ji, thank u very much for the tip. Cheers, Shubhada I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do. -- *From:* mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com *To:* ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.com *Cc:* Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.com; indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tue, 3 August, 2010 1:02:54 PM *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:43279] Advice please It could be also because of inferior seeds. Next time try to select healthy seeds from the dried chilli pods and put the seeds in sunlight. You can put some seeds in water and the ones which are healthy will go down and which are not healthy will float on the water. I have tried to grow the plant from the chillies from Mumbai market and was successful. Regards, Mani. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:56 PM, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.comwrote: may be because of no pollination . On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, I have several chillie plants growing in my terrace garden germinated out of seeds of Andhra chillies bought in Hyderabad last year. They are quite bushy and healthy, specially after the rains, with lots of flowers, which happened last year too, but chillie output has been/is almost zero. I would very much appreciate advice on what the reason might be and how I may have the flowers come to fruition. I apologise if this is not the right forum to ask such a question. Many thanks. Sushmita Jha 330.gif
