Dear Nalini one of my friend told us once that we will meet near a perticular Ficus tree. We all said there is no Ficus there, she started telling all the clues from which we could understand that she was telling about Cycus and not Ficus. We laughted. She said kya thumhare nam yar Cycus ho ya Ficus. ZAD to Hai. Latter after a few days same friend said we will meet under rain tree at a specific spot, and we were surprised to know that she has learned few trees. Just felt like narrating this and pulling leg of Tanay further. We all admire him that he is great in identifying plants(and he is no doubt or second thought for it). But one fine day he send a mail of Chilly flowers and ask id. When id was told he writes how can it be ? these plants are growing like weeds in his backyard. then he was told to wait and watch. Now he says lots of chillies do come to his weeds. HaHaHaHaHahahahahahaha Sorry Tanay but could not resist to pull your leg Madhuri
________________________________ From: Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> To: nabha meghani <[email protected]> Cc: tanay bose <[email protected]>; arjunan <[email protected]>; mani nair <[email protected]>; Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>; efloraofindia <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, 2 August, 2010 7:00:25 AM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:43142] Re: please id this medicinal plant Nalini ji This is why I love this group. There are people with little or no botanical knowledge, but their knowledge about plants is amazing. Your knowledge about plants, I suppose is second to none, and your enthusiasm unparalleled. That is the beauty of the nature. You can know it if you have desire to do so. I remember, when I was struggling to differentiate various species of Brassica, my mother showed me few days old young plants with barely three or four leaves and could tell me difference between what we call mustards and coles. I have learnt many things about plants from her, and imagine she never went to school. Here on our group also there are several nonbotanists, Garg ji, Dinesh ji, Tabish ji, Yazdy ji, you, to name a few (others pl. excuse me for not naming them) who are both the engine and the oil for this group. We are lucky to be the part of this group. Perhaps my interest in plants (nature) would not have been renewed, had I not joined this group. I would have remained at armchair botanist. This group has also changed working style of we botanists (at least me). Earlier if we got a new plant, we would collect our books, get hold of microscope, needle, brush and blade, and sit for hours to identify the unknown plant, and may still be sometimes unsuccessful, and then send the plant or photograph to an expert or a mailing group (TAXACOM was my favourite then). Now I do the reverse. Whenever, I get a new plant, I immediately send the photograph to our group, and ninety per cent of the times or more I get identification (or important clues) within minutes. Only if I don't get identification here, I sit with the plant and books/internet, or enlarge photograph on my computer and attempt its identification. The group has also changed my working philosophy. We were told by our elders/teachers that you should tell the identification only if you are 100 % sure. If we follow this policy, not 10 % of plants would get identified. We here have invented a new strategy (and I advocate it strongly), just throw a wild guess (don't hesitate about it), it will initiate rigorous search by other members to reach the correct identity. And this I think is the trademark of this group. And this we do exchanging light hearted comments to keep the spirit on. There was a lot of knowledge and goodwill involved about the LATIN NAMKARAN CEREMONY OF DINESH JI YESTERDAY. Let the spirit continue, and as they say "IS GROUP KO KISSI KI NAZAR NA LAG JAI" -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:09 AM, nabha meghani <[email protected]> wrote: Thank you Prof. Singh ji for clearing the doubts. >I have really no idea about the different varieties and species etc. etc. I >can >differenciate between sunflower and oxalis, there ends my knowledge. I just >enjoy looking at the flowers and the insects. So I am really glad that the >exact >identification is done by experts in this group >Thanks again to you. >Tanay ji, >I really admire your enthusiasm, I thought you would be packing your suitcase, >but you are IDing Flowers. Great! >Bon Voyage, Gute Reise, Have a nice journey. > >Nalini >----- Original Message ----- >>From: Gurcharan Singh >>To: nabha meghani >>Cc: tanay bose ; arjunan ; mani nair ; Pankaj Kumar ; efloraofindia >>Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 1:43 PM >>Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:43012] Re: please id this medicinal plant >> >>Nalini ji and Tanay >>Perhaps this will resolve the identity of plant posted by Naliniji, and >>possibly >>also Arjun ji >> >> >>P. crispum: Leaves small, usually less than 2.5 cm long, margin toothed and >>incised but not divided, margin crisped; flowers 2-2.5 cm long, upper larger >>petals sometimes emarginate. >> >> >>P. graveolens: Leaves large, usually longer than 5 cm, long petiolate, >>divided >>almost to the base into 5-7 lobes, lobes again divided into about 6 mm broad >>segments dentate along margin; flowers 1.5 cm long. >> >> >> >> >>On that basis Naliniji's plant is clearly Pelargonium graveolens, and so is >>that >>of Arjun ji. There is some mix up of names. P. crispum is lemon geranium >>(that >>must have led Tanay to give this name) or Crisped-leaf geranium and P. >>graveolens the rose geranium or rose-scent geranium. But that in no way >>should >>affect the identification. Photograph of the plant is here with us. >> >> >>Here are some links: >> >> >>http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelargonia_pachnąca >> >> >>http://toptropicals.com/pics/garden/m1/raznozvet2/Pelargonium_graveolens9308.jpg > >> >> >> >> >>http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/43430/ >> >> >>http://sc.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pelargonium_crispum1.jpg >> >> >>But then there is a lot of confusion and mix up there on the internet, the >>images having been mixed up. That must also be reason for mix up of the >>names. >> But my description is based on famous book "Manual of Cultivated Plants" by >>L. >>H. Bailey >> >> >> >>On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 4:08 PM, nabha meghani <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>Thank you Tanay ji, >>>i am not aware of the exact scientific name of my plant as I have no idea of >>>botany. But when i search for Zitronengeranie under which the plant is known >>>here, i get Pelargonium graveolens. So i leave it to the experts to identify >>>my plant as well as that of Arjun ji. >>>I hope you agree with me? >>>Regards >>>Nalini >>> >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: tanay bose >>>>To: Gurcharan Singh >>>>Cc: nabha meghani ; arjunan ; mani nair ; Pankaj Kumar ; efloraofindia >>>>Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 5:10 AM >>>>Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:43012] Re: please id this medicinal plant >>>> >>>> >>>>Dear Nalini Ji, >>>> >>>>I am not aware of German name as I have no idea regarding the language. But >>>>the >>>>only the thing i can assume is the scientific name, which is .... >>>> >>>>Pelargonium crispum(Berg.) L'Her. Engl. >>>>gooseberry geranium, crisped-leaf geranium, lemon geranium, lemon-scented >>>>geranium, peach geranium. >>>> >>>>Tanay >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:51 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>Thanks Nalini ji for sharing the photographs. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>Retired Associate Professor >>>>>SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 1:55 AM, nabha meghani <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>Hallo all, >>>>>> here are some fotos of Zitronengeranie ( german name. I don't know >>>>>>engl.name. >>>>>>Sorry). Leaves and flowers taken in April 2008. I hope in this >>>>>>summer, it >>>>>>shall get some more Flowers. >>>>>>Regards >>>>>>Nalini >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Tanay Bose >>>>+91(033) 25550676 (Resi) >>>>9830439691(Mobile) >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >>-- >>Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>Retired Associate Professor >>SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >>
