Re: [efloraofindia:44793] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
Dear Neil Sir, Just wanted to ask...do you mean to say that the Shubhada's plant is not Crepidium resupinatum? but Corymborkis versicolor? Or you are talking about your plant. Please do post a closeup picture of the flowers if possible. Unfortunately, I dont know of any species which is called Corymborkis versicolor. Corymborkis belongs to subfamily Tropidioideae whereas the Malaxis group belongs to Epidendroideae. They are totally different. Secondly, Malaxis versicolor and Malaxis rheedii are two different plants according to my knowledge and IPNI and Kew. I may be wrong though. Regards Pankaj
Re: [efloraofindia:44797] Request for ID : 190810-AK-1
... American Mint ... naturalized ... *Hyptis suaveolens* ... commonly known as: American mint, bush mint, chan, horehound, pignut, stinking Roger, wild spikenard • Bengali: বিলাতি তুলস bilatti tulas • Bihari: bhunsuri • Hindi: विलायती तुलसी vilaiti tulsi • Marathi: भुस्त्रैण bhustrena, दर्प तुळस darp tulas, जंगली तुळस jungli tulas • Oriya: Ganga tulasi • Sanskrit: भुस्त्रैण bhustrna • Telugu: శీర్ణ తులసి sirna tulasi Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote: *Date/Time* : 6th 13th of October, 2009 *Location Place* : Nasik... *Altitude* : ... *GPS* : *Habitat* : Wild ... *Type* : *Plant Habit* : ... *Height *: ... *Length* : ... *Leaves Type *: ... *Shape* : ... *Size* : *Inflorescence Type* : ... *Size* : *Flowers Size* : less than 1 cm ... *Colour* : light purple ... *Calyx*: ... *Bracts* : *Fruits Type* : ... *Shape *: ... *Size* : ... *Seeds* : *Other Info* : *Fragrance* : ... *Pollinator* : ... *Uses* : Found growing wild by the roadside. Aarti
Re: [efloraofindia:44798] For ID 190810 ET
... looks so much like *Mirabilis jalapa* !! ... in wilderness ? Please wait for comments. Regards, On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Thiruvengadam Ekambaram ethiruvenga...@gmail.com wrote: Friends I took this flower pictures in Mana. Uttarakhand Date/Time-14.7.10 6.51 a.m Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- --- Mana Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- --- Plant Height/Length- -around 0.5me Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size ---as seen in the picture Inflorescence Type/ Size- Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- As seen in the picture Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- Please give ID With Warm Regards, E.Thiruvengadam Mobile 09987886892 Chembur, Mumbai - 400074
Re: [efloraofindia:44799] For ID 190810 ET
I think it looks like Mirabilis... Pankaj On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Thiruvengadam Ekambaram ethiruvenga...@gmail.com wrote: Friends I took this flower pictures in Mana. Uttarakhand Date/Time-14.7.10 6.51 a.m Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- --- Mana Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- --- Plant Height/Length- -around 0.5me Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size ---as seen in the picture Inflorescence Type/ Size- Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- As seen in the picture Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- Please give ID With Warm Regards, E.Thiruvengadam Mobile 09987886892 Chembur, Mumbai - 400074
Re: [efloraofindia:44800] For ID 190810 ET
You are right Dinesh ji. In my state it is spreading in forest by breaking the boundaries of gardens. By the way it is considered as promising plant to smother the growth of Parthenium in wasteland. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: ... looks so much like *Mirabilis jalapa* !! ... in wilderness ? Please wait for comments. Regards, On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Thiruvengadam Ekambaram ethiruvenga...@gmail.com wrote: Friends I took this flower pictures in Mana. Uttarakhand Date/Time-14.7.10 6.51 a.m Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- --- Mana Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- --- Plant Height/Length- -around 0.5me Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size ---as seen in the picture Inflorescence Type/ Size- Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- As seen in the picture Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- Please give ID With Warm Regards, E.Thiruvengadam Mobile 09987886892 Chembur, Mumbai - 400074
[efloraofindia:44801] Re: Request for ID : 190810-AK-1
Dinesh ji, Thanks a lot for the id and your quick response. Aarti On Aug 19, 10:52 am, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: ... American Mint ... naturalized ... *Hyptis suaveolens* ... commonly known as: American mint, bush mint, chan, horehound, pignut, stinking Roger, wild spikenard • Bengali: বিলাতি তুলস bilatti tulas • Bihari: bhunsuri • Hindi: विलायती तुलसी vilaiti tulsi • Marathi: भुस्त्रैण bhustrena, दर्प तुळस darp tulas, जंगली तुळस jungli tulas • Oriya: Ganga tulasi • Sanskrit: भुस्त्रैण bhustrna • Telugu: శీర్ణ తులసి sirna tulasi Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote: *Date/Time* : 6th 13th of October, 2009 *Location Place* : Nasik... *Altitude* : ... *GPS* : *Habitat* : Wild ... *Type* : *Plant Habit* : ... *Height *: ... *Length* : ... *Leaves Type *: ... *Shape* : ... *Size* : *Inflorescence Type* : ... *Size* : *Flowers Size* : less than 1 cm ... *Colour* : light purple ... *Calyx*: ... *Bracts* : *Fruits Type* : ... *Shape *: ... *Size* : ... *Seeds* : *Other Info* : *Fragrance* : ... *Pollinator* : ... *Uses* : Found growing wild by the roadside. Aarti- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -
Re: [efloraofindia:44803] Ficus arnottiana
Thanks Gurcharanji for uploading the picture of the leaves of Ficus religiosa which made the comparison very easy. Thanks Shubhada for sharing your pictures of F. arnottiana. Renee On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Vyas ji for sharing this interesting species, which has bee confused with F. religiosa on this group a number of times. There are two key features in the leaves to distinguish: Leaf base is cordate and tail at tip shorter than 2.5 cm in F. arnottiana. In F. religiosa the leaf base is rounded to slightly cuneate and tail at tip much longer, usually longer than 3 cm and contributing about one third of leaf length. The leaves may be undulate and variously thick in both, depending on age. Same may be true about prominence of veins. Of course there difference in habit, often not brought out in photographs. Another authentic photograph of this species is uploaded by Dinesh ji on FOI http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Indian%20Rock%20Fig.html I am uploading my photograph of F. religiosa for comparison here. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:45 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: Very Nice Pictures thanks for sharing Renee Ji tanay On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:31 AM, renee vyas vyas reneevy...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Friends, I am sharing the pictures of Ficus arnottiana taken in Candolium, North Goa in 1st week of Aug,10. Thanks, with regards, Renee -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44804] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
Hi Dr. Kumar, Have quoted from Dr. Almeida's 'Flora of Maharashtra' Vol 5-A. My plant was identified by Dr.Almeida [on a visit to my farm in August 2007] as Malaxis versicolor, though he has now changed the name to Corymborkis versicolor in his latest Vol 5 which was released in Jan 2009. Unfortunately the plants at my farm have not flowered yet, and I do not have a close-up of the Matheran flowers. Acccording to Dr.Almeida's Vol 5 there are 5 species of Corymborkis: 1.C.acuminata. 2.C.densiflora 3.C.intermedia 4.C.latifolia 5.C.versicolor [syn. Malaxis versicolor, syn. Malaxis rheedi, syn. Microstylis rheedi, syn. Microstylis versicolor]. Am not sure which species Shubhada's plant is. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Thu, 8/19/10, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: From: Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44785] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli To: tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com Cc: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com, efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, shrikant ingalhalikar le...@rediffmail.com Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 11:37 AM Dear Neil Sir, Just wanted to ask...do you mean to say that the Shubhada's plant is not Crepidium resupinatum? but Corymborkis versicolor? Or you are talking about your plant. Please do post a closeup picture of the flowers if possible. Unfortunately, I dont know of any species which is called Corymborkis versicolor. Corymborkis belongs to subfamily Tropidioideae whereas the Malaxis group belongs to Epidendroideae. They are totally different. Secondly, Malaxis versicolor and Malaxis rheedii are two different plants according to my knowledge and IPNI and Kew. I may be wrong though. Regards Pankaj
[efloraofindia:44805] Re: Buffalo Tree Hopper on Khair
Dear Neil and Others, Thanks for excellent pictures and useful information. Bharat Pathak On Aug 19, 1:34 am, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Usha ji for your message. I have written about collection procedure in my report titled Management of Type 2 Diabetes through Traditional Healing Methods. Here is link for this report but I must suggest you to wait for a while as Google is indexing these links. It is bit difficult to get the exact information in over 10 million pages by visiting directly to the link. http://pankajoudhia.com/newwork.html regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:53 AM, Usha Desai ushande...@gmail.com wrote: Neil nice photographs. One can see the pronotum of the hopper whch looks like a thorn on the acacia tree...helping it to camouflage[?]. and info about buffalo hoppers is interesting.. Pankajji interesting that this liquid is is used in traditional healing and glad you have documented itHow do the tribal collect the honeydew? cheers Usha On 18 August 2010 16:08, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com wrote: Have you ever tasted it Kiran ji? In Traditional Healing it is used as medicine and I have documented this knowledge. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:45 PM, kiran srivastava srivastava.jo@ gmail.com wrote: ...and whilst walking in the forest sometimes one feels minute drops of 'rain' which is nothing but honeydew that Dr. Soares talks about! Cheers, Kiran Srivastava Mumbai On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi, Thought this might be interesting. Photographed at my farm at Shahapur on Sunday. Young Khair [Acacia catechu] saplings are susceptible to grazing animals. By providing food resources to ants in the form of extrafloral nectaries [near the base of the leaflets] the plant makes it obligatory for the ants to protect them. The Buffalo Tree Hopper [Leptocentrus taurus] sucks sap from the plant and is hence a serious pest. Ideally, the ants should also rid the plant of this pest except for its secret weapon : Honeydew. Their excreta called Honeydew is rich in sugar acids, amino acids, vitamins, alcohol and carbohydrates. It is excreted in the form of tiny liquid droplets. Ants protect these hymenopterans from predators and in return are rewarded with honeydew. The Common Godzilla Ant [Camponotus compressus] uses its antennae to tap the body of the treehopper to induce it to release honeydew. Sending a few photographs. With regards, Neil Soares. 360.gif 1KViewDownload- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -
Re: [efloraofindia:44806] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
That is not possible. I would really like to have a look at that. SOME ONE PLEASE SEND ME ORCHIDACEAE FROM FLORA OF MAHARASTRA.. Pankaj On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi Dr. Kumar, Have quoted from Dr. Almeida's 'Flora of Maharashtra' Vol 5-A. My plant was identified by Dr.Almeida [on a visit to my farm in August 2007] as Malaxis versicolor, though he has now changed the name to Corymborkis versicolor in his latest Vol 5 which was released in Jan 2009. Unfortunately the plants at my farm have not flowered yet, and I do not have a close-up of the Matheran flowers. Acccording to Dr.Almeida's Vol 5 there are 5 species of Corymborkis: 1.C.acuminata. 2.C.densiflora 3.C.intermedia 4.C.latifolia 5.C.versicolor [syn. Malaxis versicolor, syn. Malaxis rheedi, syn. Microstylis rheedi, syn. Microstylis versicolor]. Am not sure which species Shubhada's plant is. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 8/19/10, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44785] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli To: tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com Cc: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com, efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, shrikant ingalhalikar le...@rediffmail.com Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 11:37 AM Dear Neil Sir, Just wanted to ask...do you mean to say that the Shubhada's plant is not Crepidium resupinatum? but Corymborkis versicolor? Or you are talking about your plant. Please do post a closeup picture of the flowers if possible. Unfortunately, I dont know of any species which is called Corymborkis versicolor. Corymborkis belongs to subfamily Tropidioideae whereas the Malaxis group belongs to Epidendroideae. They are totally different. Secondly, Malaxis versicolor and Malaxis rheedii are two different plants according to my knowledge and IPNI and Kew. I may be wrong though. Regards Pankaj
Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44808] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
I agree with Dr. Pankaj that Malaxis rheedii and M. versicolor are two different plants based on Microstylis rheedii amd Microstylis versicolor respectively. The generic concept as to which genus these species will belong is a never ending debate which can only be solved with the help of phylogenetic and experimental taxonomy. It does not matter in which genus it is being treated but the identity at species level does really matters. It is true that the two species are different and treated under Seidenfia by Sath. Kumar and Manilal, Orchids of Kerala in Orchid Memories: a tribute to G. Seidenfaden published in 2004. Regarding the species level difference, there are some publications specific to this two species but unable to recall right now. Sorry for that. Dinesh On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:50:16 +0530 wrote Dear Neil Sir, Just wanted to ask...do you mean to say that the Shubhada's plant is not Crepidium resupinatum? but Corymborkis versicolor? Or you are talking about your plant. Please do post a closeup picture of the flowers if possible. Unfortunately, I dont know of any species which is called Corymborkis versicolor. Corymborkis belongs to subfamily Tropidioideae whereas the Malaxis group belongs to Epidendroideae. They are totally different. Secondly, Malaxis versicolor and Malaxis rheedii are two different plants according to my knowledge and IPNI and Kew. I may be wrong though. Regards Pankaj Dinesh Kumar Agrawala Research Officer (Botany) Central Council for Research in Ayurveda and Siddha Jawaharlal Nehru Bhartiya Chikitsa Avum Homeopathy Anusandhan Bhawan 61-65, Institutional Area Opposite D-Block, Janakpuri New Delhi - 110 058 Mobile: +91 9560570745 SAVE PLANTS AND SAVE LIFE
Re: [efloraofindia:44809] Solanum for ID : 190810-AK-2
Solanum torvum, I suppose -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote: *Date/Time* : 8th of July,2008 31st March, 2009 *Location Place* : Jijamata Udyan or 'Rani Baug', Mumbai ... *Altitude* : ... *GPS* : *Habitat* : Garden ... *Type* : cultivated *Plant Habit* : Shrub ... *Height *: about 4 feet ... *Length* : *Leaves Type *: ... *Shape* : ... *Size* : ... *Inflorescence Type* : ... *Size* : *Flowers Size* : about 1 inch ... *Colour* : white ... *Calyx* : ... * Bracts* : *Fruits Type* : ... *Shape *: ... *Size* : ... *Seeds* : *Other Info* : *Fragrance* : ... *Pollinator* : ... *Uses* : Aarti
[efloraofindia:44811] Re: ID request-150810-PKA1
I think this plant needs some further thinking. Flora of Pakistan says that Cassia pumila has 6-25 pairs of leaflets, and doesn't talk about any terminal leaflet. This plant with large terminal leaflet, then cannot be Cassia pumila. Cassia kolabensis, on the other hand, is supposed to have 5-9 leaflets, too far away from the 17 or so leaflets seen here. But curiously a pdf file mailed to me by Prashant shows a drawing of Cassia kolabensis where 13 leaflets are also seen! Apart from the number of leaflets, the description of Cassia kolabensis agrees very well with the plant here, including the needle-like point at the end of the leaflets and the terminal leaflet being larger and of different shape. By the way, the current name is Chamaecrista kolabensis. - Tabish On Aug 16, 12:38 pm, Sweedle Cerejo sweedle.cer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello once again! Just an addition - Only one species of *Cassia* L. with imparipinnate leaves when one considers the Flora of Maharashtra. Regards, Sweedle Cerejo Research Fellow St. Xavier's College Mumbai 41 The more our world functions like the natural world, the more likely we are to endure on this home that is ours, but not ours alone. ~ Janine Benyus On 16 August 2010 13:02, Sweedle Cerejo sweedle.cer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All! There is only one species of *Cassia* L. that has imparipinnate leaves and that is *Cassia kolabensis* Kothari, Moorthy et Nair. This is probably the same one. Regards, Sweedle Cerejo Research Fellow St. Xavier's College Mumbai 41 The more our world functions like the natural world, the more likely we are to endure on this home that is ours, but not ours alone. ~ Janine Benyus On 15 August 2010 20:14, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Shrikant ji, Thanks for the ID. Leaflets were 7 pairs as against 10-20 pairs mentioned by you. I checked up with efloraofpakistan ( http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5taxon_id=200012030 ). It mentions 6 to 25 pairs. regards Prashant On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:12 PM, shrikant ingalhalikar le...@rediffmail.com wrote: Cassia pumila. Leaflets would be 10-20 pairs. Regards, Shriikant On Aug 15, 11:02 am, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, Came across this erect herb with Pinnate leaves on the way to Prabalgad. Could this be some Cassia sp?? Date/Time: 14-08-2010 / 12:35 PM Location: Thakurwadi, at the base of Prabalgad. Habitat: wild Plant Habit: Erect Herb, Approx 35 to 40cm in height. Leaves Pinnate, leaflets having sharp point at the apex. Flower: Yellow with 5 petals regards Prashant Unid-Prabal-3.jpg 192KViewDownload Unid-Prabal-4.jpg 198KViewDownload Unid-Prabal-1.jpg 147KViewDownload Unid-Prabal-2.jpg 180KViewDownload
Re: [efloraofindia:44812] Buffalo Tree Hopper on Khair
I think these raindrops are collected by honeybees too. The main ingrediants of Waldhonig honey from the forest are these drops and not the nectar from flowers. Regards Nalini - Original Message - From: Pankaj Oudhia To: efloraofindia Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44766] Buffalo Tree Hopper on Khair Thanks Usha ji for your message. I have written about collection procedure in my report titled Management of Type 2 Diabetes through Traditional Healing Methods. Here is link for this report but I must suggest you to wait for a while as Google is indexing these links. It is bit difficult to get the exact information in over 10 million pages by visiting directly to the link. http://pankajoudhia.com/newwork.html regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:53 AM, Usha Desai ushande...@gmail.com wrote: Neil nice photographs. One can see the pronotum of the hopper whch looks like a thorn on the acacia tree...helping it to camouflage. and info about buffalo hoppers is interesting.. Pankajji interesting that this liquid is is used in traditional healing and glad you have documented itHow do the tribal collect the honeydew? cheers Usha On 18 August 2010 16:08, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com wrote: Have you ever tasted it Kiran ji? In Traditional Healing it is used as medicine and I have documented this knowledge. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:45 PM, kiran srivastava srivastava...@gmail.com wrote: ...and whilst walking in the forest sometimes one feels minute drops of 'rain' which is nothing but honeydew that Dr. Soares talks about! Cheers, Kiran Srivastava Mumbai On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Thought this might be interesting. Photographed at my farm at Shahapur on Sunday. Young Khair [Acacia catechu] saplings are susceptible to grazing animals. By providing food resources to ants in the form of extrafloral nectaries [near the base of the leaflets] the plant makes it obligatory for the ants to protect them. The Buffalo Tree Hopper [Leptocentrus taurus] sucks sap from the plant and is hence a serious pest. Ideally, the ants should also rid the plant of this pest except for its secret weapon : Honeydew. Their excreta called Honeydew is rich in sugar acids, amino acids, vitamins, alcohol and carbohydrates. It is excreted in the form of tiny liquid droplets. Ants protect these hymenopterans from predators and in return are rewarded with honeydew. The Common Godzilla Ant [Camponotus compressus] uses its antennae to tap the body of the treehopper to induce it to release honeydew. Sending a few photographs. With regards, Neil Soares. 360.gif
Re: [efloraofindia:44813] Solanum for ID : 190810-AK-2
For me too this looks like *Solanum torvum* Sw. This is a native of Tropical American shrub. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Solanum torvum, I suppose -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote: *Date/Time* : 8th of July,2008 31st March, 2009 *Location Place* : Jijamata Udyan or 'Rani Baug', Mumbai ... *Altitude*: ... *GPS* : *Habitat* : Garden ... *Type* : cultivated *Plant Habit* : Shrub ... *Height *: about 4 feet ... *Length* : *Leaves Type *: ... *Shape* : ... *Size* : ... *Inflorescence Type* : ... *Size* : *Flowers Size* : about 1 inch ... *Colour* : white ... *Calyx* : ... * Bracts* : *Fruits Type* : ... *Shape *: ... *Size* : ... *Seeds* : *Other Info* : *Fragrance* : ... *Pollinator* : ... *Uses* : Aarti -- Muthu Karthick, N Junior Research Fellow Care Earth Trust Chennai - 61 www.careearthtrust.org
Fwd: [efloraofindia:44814] Re: Shrub for id 280110MK1
-- Forwarded message -- From: C KUNHIKANNAN kunhikan...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:29585] Re: Shrub for id 280110MK1 To: Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com Dear muthu, it may be Viburnum punctatum Buch.-Ham. ex D. Don Kunhikannan On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: The Plant matches with *Olea paniculata* R. Br. [syn: *Olea glandulifera* Wall. ex G. Don] Tamil name: Perum oungu On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Navendu navendu.p...@gmail.com wrote: The second plant uploaded by Muthu Karthick is Viburnum punctatum. navendu . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups efloraofindia group. To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comindiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. -- Muthu Karthick, N Junior Research Fellow Care Earth Trust Chennai - 61 www.careearthtrust.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups efloraofindia group. To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comindiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. -- Dr. C.Kunhikannan, Division of Biodiversity, Institute of Forest Genetics and Tree Breeding, Forest Campus, R.S.Puram, Coimbatore-641002, Tamilnadu. -- Muthu Karthick, N Junior Research Fellow Care Earth Trust Chennai - 61 www.careearthtrust.org
[efloraofindia:44817] Re: For ID 190810 ET
Hi,All, It is called 'Gul Bakshi' in Marathi.., Found in many colours, like White, Yellow, Red, Pink, Mixed also.etc. Dr. Arvind Kadus On Aug 19, 3:05 pm, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote: it is called in Marathi and Wunderblume in German. When i was a young girl, we used to make garlands plaiting the stems of the flowers. One of my favorite flowers and of snails too. This year all young plants in my garden were eaten up by snails. :-( Regards Nalini - Original Message - From: Gurcharan Singh To: Pankaj Oudhia Cc: efloraofindia Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44807] For ID 190810 ET Yes Mirabilis jalapa. I have seen it as an escape in many places including Delhi, Mandi, Gurgaon, etc. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com wrote: You are right Dinesh ji. In my state it is spreading in forest by breaking the boundaries of gardens. By the way it is considered as promising plant to smother the growth of Parthenium in wasteland. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: ... looks so much like Mirabilis jalapa !! ... in wilderness ? Please wait for comments. Regards, On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Thiruvengadam Ekambaram ethiruvenga...@gmail.com wrote: Friends I took this flower pictures in Mana. Uttarakhand Date/Time-14.7.10 6.51 a.m Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- --- Mana Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- --- Plant Height/Length- -around 0.5me Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size ---as seen in the picture Inflorescence Type/ Size- Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- As seen in the picture Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- Please give ID With Warm Regards, E.Thiruvengadam Mobile 09987886892 Chembur, Mumbai - 400074- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -
Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44818] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
Hi Prof. Singh, I own all the voumes of 'Flora of Maharashtra' but haven't had time, neither do I have any material to work on. Regards, Neil Soares. --- On Thu, 8/19/10, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44808] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli To: dinesh kumar agrawala dk_...@rediffmail.com Cc: sahanipan...@gmail.com, tanaybos...@gmail.com, drneilsoa...@yahoo.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, le...@rediffmail.com Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 2:38 PM Dear Members It is true that name Corymborkis versicolor has not been incorporated in IPNI, but we should respect Neil ji's word, and not reject it outright.May be the book has not reached the compilers of these databases. Dr. Almeida is a accomplished taxonomist with great contribution to the knowledge of Flora of Maharashtra. Till some one from the area is able to get hold of this volume, we should avoid commenting to the contrary. Perhaps Neil ji can help in procuring this important page of the book, or possibly Rashida ji who knows the Flora of Maharashtra so well. As far as whether the two species are distinct or synonymous is a matter of taxonomic judgement. There are thousands of species which have been merged or split by different authors. Only yesterday there was a plant uploaded by me from Kashmir with dense inflorescence and much narrower leaves (which Flora of Pakistan treated as Phytolacca latbenia Walter) and one uploaded by Nalini ji from Germany with much lax inflorescence and broader almost ovate leaves 20-30 cm broad. Most recent publications treat both as P. acinosa. Let us wait about the two species of Malaxis also till the said volume of Dr. Almeida is available to any member. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:09 PM, dinesh kumar agrawala dk_...@rediffmail.com wrote: I agree with Dr. Pankaj that Malaxis rheedii and M. versicolor are two different plants based on Microstylis rheedii amd Microstylis versicolor respectively. The generic concept as to which genus these species will belong is a never ending debate which can only be solved with the help of phylogenetic and experimental taxonomy. It does not matter in which genus it is being treated but the identity at species level does really matters. It is true that the two species are different and treated under Seidenfia by Sath. Kumar and Manilal, Orchids of Kerala in Orchid Memories: a tribute to G. Seidenfaden published in 2004. Regarding the species level difference, there are some publications specific to this two species but unable to recall right now. Sorry for that. Dinesh On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:50:16 +0530 wrote Dear Neil Sir, Just wanted to ask...do you mean to say that the Shubhada's plant is not Crepidium resupinatum? but Corymborkis versicolor? Or you are talking about your plant. Please do post a closeup picture of the flowers if possible. Unfortunately, I dont know of any species which is called Corymborkis versicolor. Corymborkis belongs to subfamily Tropidioideae whereas the Malaxis group belongs to Epidendroideae. They are totally different. Secondly, Malaxis versicolor and Malaxis rheedii are two different plants according to my knowledge and IPNI and Kew. I may be wrong though. Regards Pankaj Dinesh Kumar Agrawala Research Officer (Botany) Central Council for Research in Ayurveda and Siddha Jawaharlal Nehru Bhartiya Chikitsa Avum Homeopathy Anusandhan Bhawan 61-65, Institutional Area Opposite D-Block, Janakpuri New Delhi - 110 058 Mobile: +91 9560570745 SAVE PLANTS AND SAVE LIFE
Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44820] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
Neil ji It may solve the issue if you could have the paragraph on nomenclature (with authority) of this species forwarded on the group. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Prof. Singh, I own all the voumes of 'Flora of Maharashtra' but haven't had time, neither do I have any material to work on. Regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 8/19/10, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44808] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli To: dinesh kumar agrawala dk_...@rediffmail.com Cc: sahanipan...@gmail.com, tanaybos...@gmail.com, drneilsoa...@yahoo.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, le...@rediffmail.com Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 2:38 PM Dear Members It is true that name Corymborkis versicolor has not been incorporated in IPNI, but we should respect Neil ji's word, and not reject it outright.May be the book has not reached the compilers of these databases. Dr. Almeida is a accomplished taxonomist with great contribution to the knowledge of Flora of Maharashtra. Till some one from the area is able to get hold of this volume, we should avoid commenting to the contrary. Perhaps Neil ji can help in procuring this important page of the book, or possibly Rashida ji who knows the Flora of Maharashtra so well. As far as whether the two species are distinct or synonymous is a matter of taxonomic judgement. There are thousands of species which have been merged or split by different authors. Only yesterday there was a plant uploaded by me from Kashmir with dense inflorescence and much narrower leaves (which Flora of Pakistan treated as Phytolacca latbenia Walter) and one uploaded by Nalini ji from Germany with much lax inflorescence and broader almost ovate leaves 20-30 cm broad. Most recent publications treat both as P. acinosa. Let us wait about the two species of Malaxis also till the said volume of Dr. Almeida is available to any member. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:09 PM, dinesh kumar agrawala dk_...@rediffmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dk_...@rediffmail.com wrote: I agree with Dr. Pankaj that Malaxis rheedii and M. versicolor are two different plants based on Microstylis rheedii amd Microstylis versicolor respectively. The generic concept as to which genus these species will belong is a never ending debate which can only be solved with the help of phylogenetic and experimental taxonomy. It does not matter in which genus it is being treated but the identity at species level does really matters. It is true that the two species are different and treated under Seidenfia by Sath. Kumar and Manilal, Orchids of Kerala in Orchid Memories: a tribute to G. Seidenfaden published in 2004. Regarding the species level difference, there are some publications specific to this two species but unable to recall right now. Sorry for that. Dinesh On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:50:16 +0530 wrote Dear Neil Sir, Just wanted to ask...do you mean to say that the Shubhada's plant is not Crepidium resupinatum? but Corymborkis versicolor? Or you are talking about your plant. Please do post a closeup picture of the flowers if possible. Unfortunately, I dont know of any species which is called Corymborkis versicolor. Corymborkis belongs to subfamily Tropidioideae whereas the Malaxis group belongs to Epidendroideae. They are totally different. Secondly, Malaxis versicolor and Malaxis rheedii are two different plants according to my knowledge and IPNI and Kew. I may be wrong though. Regards Pankaj Dinesh Kumar Agrawala Research Officer (Botany) Central Council for Research in Ayurveda and Siddha Jawaharlal Nehru Bhartiya Chikitsa Avum Homeopathy Anusandhan Bhawan 61-65, Institutional Area Opposite D-Block, Janakpuri New Delhi - 110 058 Mobile: +91 9560570745 SAVE PLANTS AND SAVE LIFE http://sigads.rediff.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.rediffmail.com/signatureline@middle?
Re: [efloraofindia:44821] For ID 190810 a ET
Datura stramonium, I suppose -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Thiruvengadam Ekambaram ethiruvenga...@gmail.com wrote: Friends I took this flower pictures in Mana. Uttarakhand Date/Time-14.7.10 6.53 a.m Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- --- Mana Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- --- Plant Height/Length- -around 0.75me Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size ---as seen in the picture Inflorescence Type/ Size- Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- Size 3to4 inch,as seen in the picture Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- Please give ID With Warm Regards, E.Thiruvengadam Mobile 09987886892 Chembur, Mumbai - 400074
Re: [efloraofindia:44823] ID Request For Bauhinia..
Kadus ji, ... *Bauhinia purpurea* ... commonly known as: butterfly tree, orchid tree, purple bauhinia • Assamese: kurial, kanchan, og-yok • Bengali: koiral, রক্তকাঞ্চন raktakanchana • Garo: megong • Gujarati: દેવકંચન devkanchan • Hindi: कांचन kanchan, लाल कचनार lal kachnar, केवनार kevnar • Kannada: devakanchan, kanjivala, kempu mandaara • Khasi: dieng long • Malayalam: chovanna-mandaru, suvannamandaram • Manipuri: chingthao angangba • Marathi: देवकांचन devakanchan, रक्तकांचन raktakanchan • Mizoram: vaube, vaufavang • Oriya: vaube, borodo • Sanskrit: देवकांचन devakanchan, रक्तकांचन raktakanchan, रक्तकोविदार raktakovidara • Tamil: மந்தாரை mandarai, நீலத்திருவத்தி nilattiruvatti • Telugu: bodanta, దేవకాంచనము devakanjanamu, kanchanam Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:33 PM, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.inwrote: Bauhinia species.. In Pasarani Ghat towards mahabaleshwar, left side near the temple. There is no flowering I have seen on Bauhinias in other places, But this plant is full of flowers in middle of August. Flowers- White in colour having pink tinge. stamens 3 fertile.
Re: [efloraofindia:44825] ID Request For Bauhinia..
Yes Dinesh ji, some cultivar of B. purpurea. Narrow petals and 3 stamens are distinctive. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Kadus ji, ... *Bauhinia purpurea* ... commonly known as: butterfly tree, orchid tree, purple bauhinia • Assamese: kurial, kanchan, og-yok • Bengali: koiral, রক্তকাঞ্চন raktakanchana • Garo: megong • Gujarati: દેવકંચન devkanchan • Hindi: कांचन kanchan, लाल कचनार lal kachnar, केवनार kevnar • Kannada: devakanchan, kanjivala, kempu mandaara • Khasi: dieng long • Malayalam: chovanna-mandaru, suvannamandaram • Manipuri: chingthao angangba • Marathi: देवकांचन devakanchan, रक्तकांचन raktakanchan • Mizoram: vaube, vaufavang • Oriya: vaube, borodo • Sanskrit: देवकांचन devakanchan, रक्तकांचन raktakanchan, रक्तकोविदार raktakovidara • Tamil: மந்தாரை mandarai, நீலத்திருவத்தி nilattiruvatti • Telugu: bodanta, దేవకాంచనము devakanjanamu, kanchanam Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:33 PM, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.inwrote: Bauhinia species.. In Pasarani Ghat towards mahabaleshwar, left side near the temple. There is no flowering I have seen on Bauhinias in other places, But this plant is full of flowers in middle of August. Flowers- White in colour having pink tinge. stamens 3 fertile.
Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44829] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
I have met Dr. Almeida personally and I respect him undoubtedly and I also know some of his students very well. My intention of saying was just to see what he has done with Malaxis in his book. My personal view says, they can never be placed in Corymborkis.it is totally out of my head!! He may have made a new combination... Neither do I doubt credibility of Dr. Neil. What he said was based on a proper reference, so has is justified himself. Sameer Surve, Swapna, Aparna, Page, if you are reading this, then get me xerox of orchidaceae. I would really like to see. The book is not available in Dehradun. Regards Pankaj On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Neil ji It may solve the issue if you could have the paragraph on nomenclature (with authority) of this species forwarded on the group. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi Prof. Singh, I own all the voumes of 'Flora of Maharashtra' but haven't had time, neither do I have any material to work on. Regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 8/19/10, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44808] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli To: dinesh kumar agrawala dk_...@rediffmail.com Cc: sahanipan...@gmail.com, tanaybos...@gmail.com, drneilsoa...@yahoo.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, le...@rediffmail.com Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 2:38 PM Dear Members It is true that name Corymborkis versicolor has not been incorporated in IPNI, but we should respect Neil ji's word, and not reject it outright.May be the book has not reached the compilers of these databases. Dr. Almeida is a accomplished taxonomist with great contribution to the knowledge of Flora of Maharashtra. Till some one from the area is able to get hold of this volume, we should avoid commenting to the contrary. Perhaps Neil ji can help in procuring this important page of the book, or possibly Rashida ji who knows the Flora of Maharashtra so well. As far as whether the two species are distinct or synonymous is a matter of taxonomic judgement. There are thousands of species which have been merged or split by different authors. Only yesterday there was a plant uploaded by me from Kashmir with dense inflorescence and much narrower leaves (which Flora of Pakistan treated as Phytolacca latbenia Walter) and one uploaded by Nalini ji from Germany with much lax inflorescence and broader almost ovate leaves 20-30 cm broad. Most recent publications treat both as P. acinosa. Let us wait about the two species of Malaxis also till the said volume of Dr. Almeida is available to any member. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:09 PM, dinesh kumar agrawala dk_...@rediffmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dk_...@rediffmail.com wrote: I agree with Dr. Pankaj that Malaxis rheedii and M. versicolor are two different plants based on Microstylis rheedii amd Microstylis versicolor respectively. The generic concept as to which genus these species will belong is a never ending debate which can only be solved with the help of phylogenetic and experimental taxonomy. It does not matter in which genus it is being treated but the identity at species level does really matters. It is true that the two species are different and treated under Seidenfia by Sath. Kumar and Manilal, Orchids of Kerala in Orchid Memories: a tribute to G. Seidenfaden published in 2004. Regarding the species level difference, there are some publications specific to this two species but unable to recall right now. Sorry for that. Dinesh On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:50:16 +0530 wrote Dear Neil Sir, Just wanted to ask...do you mean to say that the Shubhada's plant is not Crepidium resupinatum? but Corymborkis versicolor? Or you are talking about your plant. Please do post a closeup picture of the flowers if possible. Unfortunately, I dont know of any species which is called Corymborkis versicolor. Corymborkis belongs to subfamily Tropidioideae whereas the Malaxis group belongs to Epidendroideae. They are totally different. Secondly, Malaxis versicolor and Malaxis rheedii are two different plants according to my knowledge and IPNI and Kew. I may be wrong though. Regards Pankaj Dinesh Kumar Agrawala Research Officer (Botany) Central Council for Research in Ayurveda and
[efloraofindia:44830] Fwd: Flora of Maharashtra
Forwarding pl. for any assisstance in the matter. -- Forwarded message -- From: amol patwardhan amolppatward...@gmail.com Date: 13 August 2010 22:16 Subject: Flora of Maharashtra To: J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com Dear Mr, Garg, Can you help me getting full citation of Flora of Maharashtra by M R Almeida. Author, Date of publication of each volume, pages of each volume and publisher. -- Regards, Amol Patwardhan www.amolpatwardhan.blogspot.com -- With regards, J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora Fauna' Image Resource of more than a thousand species of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group- Efloraofindia: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix
Re: [efloraofindia:44833] ID Request For Bauhinia..
Dear Members, I want to know which tree Bauhinia blooms in August in Northern Hemisphere. Promila On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Dinesh ji, some cultivar of B. purpurea. Narrow petals and 3 stamens are distinctive. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Kadus ji, ... *Bauhinia purpurea* ... commonly known as: butterfly tree, orchid tree, purple bauhinia • Assamese: kurial, kanchan, og-yok • Bengali: koiral, রক্তকাঞ্চন raktakanchana • Garo: megong • Gujarati: દેવકંચન devkanchan • Hindi: कांचन kanchan, लाल कचनार lal kachnar, केवनार kevnar • Kannada: devakanchan, kanjivala, kempu mandaara • Khasi: dieng long • Malayalam: chovanna-mandaru, suvannamandaram • Manipuri: chingthao angangba • Marathi: देवकांचन devakanchan, रक्तकांचन raktakanchan • Mizoram: vaube, vaufavang • Oriya: vaube, borodo • Sanskrit: देवकांचन devakanchan, रक्तकांचन raktakanchan, रक्तकोविदार raktakovidara • Tamil: மந்தாரை mandarai, நீலத்திருவத்தி nilattiruvatti • Telugu: bodanta, దేవకాంచనము devakanjanamu, kanchanam Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:33 PM, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.inwrote: Bauhinia species.. In Pasarani Ghat towards mahabaleshwar, left side near the temple. There is no flowering I have seen on Bauhinias in other places, But this plant is full of flowers in middle of August. Flowers- White in colour having pink tinge. stamens 3 fertile.
Re: [efloraofindia:44834] Ficus arnottiana
Thanks Sir Ji and Shubhada ji for sharing your pictures Tanay On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:47 PM, renee vyas vyas reneevy...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Gurcharanji for uploading the picture of the leaves of Ficus religiosa which made the comparison very easy. Thanks Shubhada for sharing your pictures of F. arnottiana. Renee On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Vyas ji for sharing this interesting species, which has bee confused with F. religiosa on this group a number of times. There are two key features in the leaves to distinguish: Leaf base is cordate and tail at tip shorter than 2.5 cm in F. arnottiana. In F. religiosa the leaf base is rounded to slightly cuneate and tail at tip much longer, usually longer than 3 cm and contributing about one third of leaf length. The leaves may be undulate and variously thick in both, depending on age. Same may be true about prominence of veins. Of course there difference in habit, often not brought out in photographs. Another authentic photograph of this species is uploaded by Dinesh ji on FOI http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Indian%20Rock%20Fig.html I am uploading my photograph of F. religiosa for comparison here. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:45 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.comwrote: Very Nice Pictures thanks for sharing Renee Ji tanay On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:31 AM, renee vyas vyas reneevy...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, I am sharing the pictures of Ficus arnottiana taken in Candolium, North Goa in 1st week of Aug,10. Thanks, with regards, Renee -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036 -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44835] Solanum for ID : 190810-AK-2
I too vote for Solanum torvum Tanay On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: For me too this looks like *Solanum torvum* Sw. This is a native of Tropical American shrub. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Solanum torvum, I suppose -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote: *Date/Time* : 8th of July,2008 31st March, 2009 *Location Place* : Jijamata Udyan or 'Rani Baug', Mumbai ... *Altitude*: ... *GPS* : *Habitat* : Garden ... *Type* : cultivated *Plant Habit* : Shrub ... *Height *: about 4 feet ... *Length* : *Leaves Type *: ... *Shape* : ... *Size* : ... *Inflorescence Type* : ... *Size* : *Flowers Size* : about 1 inch ... *Colour* : white ... *Calyx* : ... * Bracts* : *Fruits Type* : ... *Shape *: ... *Size* : ... *Seeds* : *Other Info* : *Fragrance* : ... *Pollinator* : ... *Uses* : Aarti -- Muthu Karthick, N Junior Research Fellow Care Earth Trust Chennai - 61 www.careearthtrust.org -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44836] Re: For ID 190810 ET
Yes Mirabilis jalapa with variegated flowers, Even variegated leaves are found on this plant Tanay On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Dr. Arvind Kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi,All, It is called 'Gul Bakshi' in Marathi.., Found in many colours, like White, Yellow, Red, Pink, Mixed also.etc. Dr. Arvind Kadus On Aug 19, 3:05 pm, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote: it is called in Marathi and Wunderblume in German. When i was a young girl, we used to make garlands plaiting the stems of the flowers. One of my favorite flowers and of snails too. This year all young plants in my garden were eaten up by snails. :-( Regards Nalini - Original Message - From: Gurcharan Singh To: Pankaj Oudhia Cc: efloraofindia Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44807] For ID 190810 ET Yes Mirabilis jalapa. I have seen it as an escape in many places including Delhi, Mandi, Gurgaon, etc. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com wrote: You are right Dinesh ji. In my state it is spreading in forest by breaking the boundaries of gardens. By the way it is considered as promising plant to smother the growth of Parthenium in wasteland. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: ... looks so much like Mirabilis jalapa !! ... in wilderness ? Please wait for comments. Regards, On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Thiruvengadam Ekambaram ethiruvenga...@gmail.com wrote: Friends I took this flower pictures in Mana. Uttarakhand Date/Time-14.7.10 6.51 a.m Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- --- Mana Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- --- Plant Height/Length- -around 0.5me Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size ---as seen in the picture Inflorescence Type/ Size- Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- As seen in the picture Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- Please give ID With Warm Regards, E.Thiruvengadam Mobile 09987886892 Chembur, Mumbai - 400074- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44837] For ID 190810 a ET
I too think this is Datura stramonium Tanay On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Datura stramonium, I suppose -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Thiruvengadam Ekambaram ethiruvenga...@gmail.com wrote: Friends I took this flower pictures in Mana. Uttarakhand Date/Time-14.7.10 6.53 a.m Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- --- Mana Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- wild Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- --- Plant Height/Length- -around 0.75me Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size ---as seen in the picture Inflorescence Type/ Size- Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts- Size 3to4 inch,as seen in the picture Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- Please give ID With Warm Regards, E.Thiruvengadam Mobile 09987886892 Chembur, Mumbai - 400074 -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44838] Is it Crateva nurvala ? confirm pl.
Cratavea tapia indeed !! TAnay On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Affirmative Dr.Kadus, but it is now called Cratavea tapia [Sacred Barna,Vavarun]. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 8/19/10, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in* wrote: From: arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [efloraofindia:44827] Is it Crateva nurvala ? confirm pl. To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Cc: Bachulkar Sir principalvyadavcoll...@yahoo.co.in, Harish Dr. Nangare niramay.a...@rediffmail.com Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 5:32 PM Hi, All, Is it Crateva nurvala ? Trifoliate, alternate,leaves, Shiny appearance, But small tree around 10 ft only, may be younger one. Not in flowering stage. Thanx. Dr. Kadus Arvind. -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44839] ID Request For Bauhinia..
*Bauhinia* blakeana or the Hong Kong Orchid Tree Tanay On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:28 PM, promila chaturvedi thegardener.chaturv...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Members, I want to know which tree Bauhinia blooms in August in Northern Hemisphere. Promila On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Yes Dinesh ji, some cultivar of B. purpurea. Narrow petals and 3 stamens are distinctive. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Kadus ji, ... *Bauhinia purpurea* ... commonly known as: butterfly tree, orchid tree, purple bauhinia • Assamese: kurial, kanchan, og-yok • Bengali: koiral, রক্তকাঞ্চন raktakanchana • Garo: megong • Gujarati: દેવકંચન devkanchan • Hindi: कांचन kanchan, लाल कचनार lal kachnar, केवनार kevnar • Kannada: devakanchan, kanjivala, kempu mandaara • Khasi: dieng long • Malayalam: chovanna-mandaru, suvannamandaram • Manipuri: chingthao angangba • Marathi: देवकांचन devakanchan, रक्तकांचन raktakanchan • Mizoram: vaube, vaufavang • Oriya: vaube, borodo • Sanskrit: देवकांचन devakanchan, रक्तकांचन raktakanchan, रक्तकोविदार raktakovidara • Tamil: மந்தாரை mandarai, நீலத்திருவத்தி nilattiruvatti • Telugu: bodanta, దేవకాంచనము devakanjanamu, kanchanam Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:33 PM, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Bauhinia species.. In Pasarani Ghat towards mahabaleshwar, left side near the temple. There is no flowering I have seen on Bauhinias in other places, But this plant is full of flowers in middle of August. Flowers- White in colour having pink tinge. stamens 3 fertile. -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44841] ID Request For Bauhinia..
Bauhinia blakeana blooms November- spring in our country. I may be wrong. They may be blooming in Summer as well. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:38 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: *Bauhinia* blakeana or the Hong Kong Orchid Tree Tanay On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:28 PM, promila chaturvedi thegardener.chaturv...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Members, I want to know which tree Bauhinia blooms in August in Northern Hemisphere. Promila On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Yes Dinesh ji, some cultivar of B. purpurea. Narrow petals and 3 stamens are distinctive. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Kadus ji, ... *Bauhinia purpurea* ... commonly known as: butterfly tree, orchid tree, purple bauhinia • Assamese: kurial, kanchan, og-yok • Bengali: koiral, রক্তকাঞ্চন raktakanchana • Garo: megong • Gujarati: દેવકંચન devkanchan • Hindi: कांचन kanchan, लाल कचनार lal kachnar, केवनार kevnar • Kannada: devakanchan, kanjivala, kempu mandaara • Khasi: dieng long • Malayalam: chovanna-mandaru, suvannamandaram • Manipuri: chingthao angangba • Marathi: देवकांचन devakanchan, रक्तकांचन raktakanchan • Mizoram: vaube, vaufavang • Oriya: vaube, borodo • Sanskrit: देवकांचन devakanchan, रक्तकांचन raktakanchan, रक्तकोविदार raktakovidara • Tamil: மந்தாரை mandarai, நீலத்திருவத்தி nilattiruvatti • Telugu: bodanta, దేవకాంచనము devakanjanamu, kanchanam Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:33 PM, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Bauhinia species.. In Pasarani Ghat towards mahabaleshwar, left side near the temple. There is no flowering I have seen on Bauhinias in other places, But this plant is full of flowers in middle of August. Flowers- White in colour having pink tinge. stamens 3 fertile. -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:44844] Re: Shrub for id 280110MK1
To me it looks like some Icacinaceae member! Pl check! Regards, Ritesh. On Aug 19, 2:59 pm, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: C KUNHIKANNAN kunhikan...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:29585] Re: Shrub for id 280110MK1 To: Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com Dear muthu, it may be Viburnum punctatum Buch.-Ham. ex D. Don Kunhikannan On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: The Plant matches with *Olea paniculata* R. Br. [syn: *Olea glandulifera* Wall. ex G. Don] Tamil name: Perum oungu On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Navendu navendu.p...@gmail.com wrote: The second plant uploaded by Muthu Karthick is Viburnum punctatum. navendu . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups efloraofindia group. To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comindiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. -- Muthu Karthick, N Junior Research Fellow Care Earth Trust Chennai - 61 www.careearthtrust.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups efloraofindia group. To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comindiantreepix%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. -- Dr. C.Kunhikannan, Division of Biodiversity, Institute of Forest Genetics and Tree Breeding, Forest Campus, R.S.Puram, Coimbatore-641002, Tamilnadu. -- Muthu Karthick, N Junior Research Fellow Care Earth Trust Chennai - 61www.careearthtrust.org- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -
Re: [efloraofindia:44846] Another Bauhinia for ID..
One question: Will Bauhinia have a bilobed stigma? Pankaj On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Kadus ji ... a native of Malaysia ... *Bauhinia acuminata* ... commonly known as: dwarf white orchid tree / white orchid tree / orchid tree, snowy orchid, white bauhinia. Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:45 PM, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.inwrote: This plant belongs to my garden. I had collected the seeds from Muradi, Harnai,Tal.Dapoli.Ratnagiri. Totally white in colour. Yet didn't see the stamens curiously. Small bushy plant not more than 10 ft. Dr. kadus Arvind,Pune.
Re: [efloraofindia:44848] flower for ID190810MN
Common garden plant, Centaurea cyanus. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:03 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, Sending a photo of the flower. Kindly identify. Date/Time: June 2009 2.00 p.m Location: Pahalgam, Kashmir Habitat: Cultivated in a garden Plant Habit: herb Fruits - Not seen Regards, Mani Nair
Re: [efloraofindia:0] Another Bauhinia for ID..
Pankaj ji You stumped us well. You are right. The search is again on!! -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: One question: Will Bauhinia have a bilobed stigma? Pankaj On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Kadus ji ... a native of Malaysia ... *Bauhinia acuminata* ... commonly known as: dwarf white orchid tree / white orchid tree / orchid tree, snowy orchid, white bauhinia. Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:45 PM, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.inwrote: This plant belongs to my garden. I had collected the seeds from Muradi, Harnai,Tal.Dapoli.Ratnagiri. Totally white in colour. Yet didn't see the stamens curiously. Small bushy plant not more than 10 ft. Dr. kadus Arvind,Pune. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
Re: [efloraofindia:44852] photos
Dear Neil why no abdomin to the last scorpion? Madhuri om: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com To: tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; ushaprabha page ushaprabhap...@gmail.com; nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 11:31:40 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44761] photos Hi Tanay, This is not the site to discuss this, but anyway have also bred them. Regards, Neil. --- On Wed, 8/18/10, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: From: tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44747] photos To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, ushaprabha page ushaprabhap...@gmail.com, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 8:12 PM I also think Neil Ji is courageous !!! I can never think of this tanay On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you Ms.Meghani. Not courageous. You have to know how to handle these animals. Regards, Neil Soares. --- On Wed, 8/18/10, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote: From: nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44736] photos To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, ushaprabha page ushaprabhap...@gmail.com Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 5:08 PM You are courageous, Neil ji. - Original Message - From: Neil Soares To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com ; ushaprabha page Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44736] photos Hi Ms.Page, The scorpion is India's largest scorpion -Heterometrus swammerdami. Sending you a photograph taken at my farm at Shahapur. The snake is possibly the Bombay Sheild Tail snake [Uropeltis macrolepis marolepis]. It can only be identified with certainty by doing a scale count. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Wed, 8/18/10, ushaprabha page ushaprabhap...@gmail.com wrote: From: ushaprabha page ushaprabhap...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:44718] photos To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 1:32 PM Pl identify. First one is Ingali-but which? Those bugs on Shatavari plant, do they know it is a tonic? Last-one is Shield-tail- victim of traffic on Sinhgad road. -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44854] flower for ID190810MN
common name cornflower/ comes in shades of blue, mauve and pink. FA On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Common garden plant, Centaurea cyanus. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:03 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, Sending a photo of the flower. Kindly identify. Date/Time: June 2009 2.00 p.m Location: Pahalgam, Kashmir Habitat: Cultivated in a garden Plant Habit: herb Fruits - Not seen Regards, Mani Nair -- Mrs. F. Abraham. Principal, La Martiniere Girls' College, Lucknow 226001.
Re: [efloraofindia:44855] Another Bauhinia for ID..
Pankaj ji ... any sense in this fraction of a line (excerpted from Google search result) : ... and the bilobed stigmas in Bauhinia were particularly good examples of ... http://www.jstor.org/pss/4118749 (restricted access) Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Pankaj ji You stumped us well. You are right. The search is again on!! -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: One question: Will Bauhinia have a bilobed stigma? Pankaj On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Kadus ji ... a native of Malaysia ... *Bauhinia acuminata* ... commonly known as: dwarf white orchid tree / white orchid tree / orchid tree, snowy orchid, white bauhinia. Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:45 PM, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in wrote: This plant belongs to my garden. I had collected the seeds from Muradi, Harnai,Tal.Dapoli.Ratnagiri. Totally white in colour. Yet didn't see the stamens curiously. Small bushy plant not more than 10 ft. Dr. kadus Arvind,Pune. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/
Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44856] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
Thanks Rashida ji That should settle the issue. Any other thing as I wrote earlier is the matter of Taxonomic judgement. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Rashida Atthar atthar.rash...@gmail.comwrote: Dr. Gurcharan ji, Here are the details as requested by you sir for the species under discussion from Flora of Mah, Vol V - A pg 28, 29 *Corymborkis* Thouars 1. Small pseudobulbs present- *C. densiflora* 1. Pseudobulbs not present- C. versicolor Five new combinations have been described- C. acuminata (D. Don) Almeida (comb. nov.). C. intermedia (A. Rich.) Almeida (comb. nov.) C. latifolia (J.E.Sm.) Almeida (comb. nov) C. versicolor (Lind.) Almeida (comb. nov.). Two explanations of particular interest to the discussion, one on pg 29 under the description of c. acuminata is as follows: Generic name * Malaxis* Sw. is not applicable to the generic concept and circumscription of these species. Why it is not a appropriate generic name for our plants, is explained under C. *versicolor.* Other generic name used for the taxa under this group is *Microstylis* Nutt. (nom.cons.). This generic name also applies to the New World series, which is typified by *Microstylis ophioglossoides* Willd., and Willdenow might be correct considering it a close ally of *Geodorum Jackson. *(1810). Lindley (1827) published a new generic name under *Dienia* *congesta* Lindl. based on Malaxis latifolia J.E. Sm. However, the earliest available generic name for this generic concept happens to be *Corymborchis* Du Petit Thuars. applied to Himalayan species going under *Malaxis* and *Microstylis* (Sensu lato). I propose to restore this generic name for our Indian orchids . Another important explanation at the end of the description of C. versicolor is as follows: pg 30 : The Malaxis rheedii Sw. was revived by Nair Ansari (1981) . However, Swartz in original publication (1778) has cited *Epidendrum* *resupinatum* G. Forst.,reducing his new name to illegitimate status . Seidenfaden (Bot. Tidsskr. 73: 97, 1978) excluded Forster's synonym and lectotypified Swartz's name on Rheede's figure. This practice is against the rules of the ICBN. Any name including the indication of type of different species or even the inclusion of the name of different species renders the new name illegitimate, irrespective of its own type. Similarly, Swartz's generic name also must be typified by Epidendrum resupinatum Forst. Secondly , Seidenfaden was wrong in selecting Rheede's figure as type. because Swartz had proposed the name for Occidental plant which he has applied to Oriental species. I hope the above resolves the confusion. Sir just a few days back Dr. Almeida had mentioned to me that it can take any number of years for the Kew index and other data indexes to update the new combinations. I am also attaching scanned image of a line drawing and a picture of C. versicolor from the flora. regards, Rashida. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: I have met Dr. Almeida personally and I respect him undoubtedly and I also know some of his students very well. My intention of saying was just to see what he has done with Malaxis in his book. My personal view says, they can never be placed in Corymborkis.it is totally out of my head!! He may have made a new combination... Neither do I doubt credibility of Dr. Neil. What he said was based on a proper reference, so has is justified himself. Sameer Surve, Swapna, Aparna, Page, if you are reading this, then get me xerox of orchidaceae. I would really like to see. The book is not available in Dehradun. Regards Pankaj On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Neil ji It may solve the issue if you could have the paragraph on nomenclature (with authority) of this species forwarded on the group. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi Prof. Singh, I own all the voumes of 'Flora of Maharashtra' but haven't had time, neither do I have any material to work on. Regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 8/19/10, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44808] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli To: dinesh kumar agrawala dk_...@rediffmail.com Cc: sahanipan...@gmail.com, tanaybos...@gmail.com, drneilsoa...@yahoo.com,
Re: [efloraofindia:44857] Re: DV - 14AUG10 - 1058 :: Curcuma sp. near Valmiki Ashram
Hello Dinesh ji *C. pesudomontana*Flower yellowspike arising after the leaves, corolla 2-lipped *C. amanda*Flower yellowspike arising after the leaves corolla lip 3-lobed *C. decipiens* Flower purplespike arising after the leaves corolla lip 2-lobed *C. neilgherensis* Flower pink spike arise before leaves corolla lip 2-lobed *C. aromatica* Flower pinkspike arise before leaves corolla lip 3-lobed *C. inodora* Flower purplish with yellowish tinge on corolla lip Spike arise after leaves, lateral corolla 3-lipped I have not came across C. reclinata, no reference as of now. Regards Satish Pardeshi On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:24 PM, satish pardeshi satishparde...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Dinesh ji *C. pesudomontana*Flower yellowspike arising after the leaves, corolla 2-lipped *C. amanda*Flower yellowspike arising after the leaves corolla lip 3-lobed *C. decipiens* Flower purplespike arising after the leaves corolla lip 2-lobed *C. neilgherensis* Flower pink spike arise before leaves corolla lip 2-lobed *C. aromatica* Flower pinkspike arise before leaves corolla lip 3-lobed *C. inodora* Flower purplish with yellowish tinge on corolla lip Spike arise after leaves, lateral corolla 3-lipped I have not came across C. reclinata, no reference as of now. Regards Satish Pardeshi On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Many thanks Satish ji... much of my clouded mind is clearing ... a question remains though ... which is the *Curcuma* that springs up at start of monsoon in SGNP, Tungareshwar WLS ... they strat with no leaves around it ... to know what my query is, some examples: 12 JUN 10 ... Tungareshwar WLS ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/4694901271/ 19 JUN 10 ... Yeoor Hills (SGNP) ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/4714161308/ 27 JUN 10 ... Girivan (Maval) near Lonavala ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/4746005163/ ... would it be *C. inodora* ? A post at EOI is troubling me, where Dr Pankaj Kumar came up with another *Curcuma* ... *C. reclinata* (*C. sulcata*) ... read at your leisure: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix/browse_thread/thread/97c46d8729fad9a8?hl=en Please respond at your leisure. Your growth-based key helps me: *C. pesudomontana*Flower yellowspike arising after the leaves *C. amanda* Flower yellowspike arising after the leaves corolla lip 3-lobed *C. decipiens*Flower purplespike arising after the leaves corolla lip 2-lobed *C. neilgherensis*Flower pinkspike arise before leavescorolla lip 2-lobed *C. aromatica*Flower pinkspike arise before leavescorolla lip 3-lobed In this key, how is *C. inodora* placed ? Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:00 AM, satish pardeshi satishparde...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dinesh Ji The leaves starts coming out withe the first shower from the underground rhizomes. C. pseudomontana and C. decipiens has its flowering spikes arising from the centre of the tufts of leaves (where as C. inodora has spikes laterally growing) the flowering spike along with its colored bracts remain with plant by end of August but the flower keeps on disintegrating in 1-2 dayz. the flowers are borne in the axils of the bracts and leads to formation of seeding capsules. Regards Satish Pardeshi On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Thank you very much, Satish ji. If you have responses for these queries, please help: - Does the plant (*C. pseudomontana*) starts growing with the first showers of monsoon ? - Does the flower spike start growing right then, and grows along with leaves - Normally, how long do these flowers stay with the plant ? Regards. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Pardeshi S. satishparde...@gmail.comwrote: i will go with Neil ji Regards On Aug 18, 9:31 am, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: I also got confused by the varried colour combination in this species !! Tanay On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Thank you very much Neil ji. *CURCUMA*s keep confusing me. Would like to see different stages of this *Curcuma*'s growth. - Does the plant starts growing with the first showers of monsoon ? - Does the flower spike start growing right then, and grows along with leaves - Normally, how long do these flowers stay with the plant ? Regards. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi Dinesh, This is the regular Hill Tumeric [Cucurma pseudomontana]. I don't see anything different in this specimen. Have plenty of these currently flowering on my property.
[efloraofindia:44859] Re: Ficus arnottiana
I feel the leaves belong to Ficus rumphii. can any body provide images of leaf of F. rumphii too. Regards Satish Pardeshi On Aug 19, 11:10 am, shubhada nikharge shubhada_nikha...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Dear Renee, Nice pics of leaves, stipules and figs. Good series of pics. Attaching the pics of Ficus arnottiana tree taken at Maharashtra Nature Park, Dharavi, Mumbai in Jan 2009. Marathi name : पायर Family : Moraceae Cheers, Shubhada I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do. From: renee vyas vyas reneevy...@gmail.com To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, 19 August, 2010 9:31:49 AM Subject: [efloraofindia:44782] Ficus arnottiana Dear Friends, I am sharing the pictures of Ficus arnottiana taken in Candolium, North Goa in 1st week of Aug,10. Thanks, with regards, Renee Ficus arnottiana bark पायर 2009_0118_mnp_0012 e.jpg 155KViewDownload Ficus arnottiana bark पायर 2009_0118_mnp_0013 e.jpg 157KViewDownload
[efloraofindia:44860] Re: Another Bauhinia for ID..
Arvind, do you have a picture with leaves? That will set all doubts at rest. - Tabish On Aug 19, 7:30 pm, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Pankaj ji ... any sense in this fraction of a line (excerpted from Google search result) : ... and the bilobed stigmas in Bauhinia were particularly good examples of ...http://www.jstor.org/pss/4118749(restricted access) Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Pankaj ji You stumped us well. You are right. The search is again on!! -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: One question: Will Bauhinia have a bilobed stigma? Pankaj On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote: Kadus ji ... a native of Malaysia ... *Bauhinia acuminata* ... commonly known as: dwarf white orchid tree / white orchid tree / orchid tree, snowy orchid, white bauhinia. Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:45 PM, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in wrote: This plant belongs to my garden. I had collected the seeds from Muradi, Harnai,Tal.Dapoli.Ratnagiri. Totally white in colour. Yet didn't see the stamens curiously. Small bushy plant not more than 10 ft. Dr. kadus Arvind,Pune. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/
[efloraofindia:44861] OT a Question.
Hallo all, I am asked to write an article on indian story telling tradition or how it is developing / changing in the last 100 years. Story is mythology or entertaining stories, in fact all sorts of stories in oral tradition. Singing, theater, puppets etc.etc are to be included. As in this group there are members from all parts of india, I am taking the liberty of putting this question here. Your answer please in a personal mail to me. From Maharashtra I know Kirtan, Puran, Pravachan, Bharud and some other storytelling-types. I don't know, how or what ways were / are being used in other parts of the country, though I found some information on bauls, Burrakatha and some dances in Southindia. I am searching further in internet but perhaps you might give me some tips about Folk-tradition. Do you know any E-group, discussing story-telling or other traditions in india? Do you know someone, who can give me more information? Do you know good links? I understand Marathi, Hindi and English, no other indian language, I am afraid. If you have any first hand experiences, say from your childhood or otherwise, or if you have any Fotos, which you can send to me? I don't think, they will be published, but in that case, I shall certainly ask you first for permission. TIA and excuse me for this OT Nalini
Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44862] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
I just got my hands on the Orchidaceae of Flora of Maharastra, I must say, that I was disappointed...I hope to see same reaction from Dinesh. Pankaj
Re: [efloraofindia:44863] Is it Crateva nurvala ? confirm pl.
Dear Dr. Kadus, I have seen this tree in Jijabhai Bhosle Udya,Byculla, Mumbai. This is the food plant of the caterpillars of Great Orange Tip (Hebomoia glaucippe) butterflies. Regards, Mani. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:36 PM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: Cratavea tapia indeed !! TAnay On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Affirmative Dr.Kadus, but it is now called Cratavea tapia [Sacred Barna,Vavarun]. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 8/19/10, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in* wrote: From: arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in Subject: [efloraofindia:44827] Is it Crateva nurvala ? confirm pl. To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Cc: Bachulkar Sir principalvyadavcoll...@yahoo.co.in, Harish Dr. Nangare niramay.a...@rediffmail.com Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 5:32 PM Hi, All, Is it Crateva nurvala ? Trifoliate, alternate,leaves, Shiny appearance, But small tree around 10 ft only, may be younger one. Not in flowering stage. Thanx. Dr. Kadus Arvind. -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44864] photos
Hi Ms.Pejaver, Its tail is raised over its abdomen ready to strike and hence is out of focus. It is protecting its young one. Regards, Neil Soares. --- On Thu, 8/19/10, Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Madhuri Pejaver formpeja...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44852] photos To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, ushaprabha page ushaprabhap...@gmail.com, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 7:37 PM Dear Neil why no abdomin to the last scorpion? Madhuri om: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com To: tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; ushaprabha page ushaprabhap...@gmail.com; nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de Sent: Wed, 18 August, 2010 11:31:40 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44761] photos Hi Tanay, This is not the site to discuss this, but anyway have also bred them. Regards, Neil. --- On Wed, 8/18/10, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: From: tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44747] photos To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, ushaprabha page ushaprabhap...@gmail.com, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 8:12 PM I also think Neil Ji is courageous !!! I can never think of this tanay On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you Ms.Meghani. Not courageous. You have to know how to handle these animals. Regards, Neil Soares. --- On Wed, 8/18/10, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote: From: nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44736] photos To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com, indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, ushaprabha page ushaprabhap...@gmail.com Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 5:08 PM You are courageous, Neil ji. - Original Message - From: Neil Soares To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com ; ushaprabha page Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44736] photos Hi Ms.Page, The scorpion is India's largest scorpion -Heterometrus swammerdami. Sending you a photograph taken at my farm at Shahapur. The snake is possibly the Bombay Sheild Tail snake [Uropeltis macrolepis marolepis]. It can only be identified with certainty by doing a scale count. With regards, Neil Soares. --- On Wed, 8/18/10, ushaprabha page ushaprabhap...@gmail.com wrote: From: ushaprabha page ushaprabhap...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:44718] photos To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 1:32 PM Pl identify. First one is Ingali-but which? Those bugs on Shatavari plant, do they know it is a tonic? Last-one is Shield-tail- victim of traffic on Sinhgad road. -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44866] Solanum fruits for ID : 190810-AK-3
Solanum Viarum. Regards Yazdy Palia. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.com wrote: Date/Time : 22nd of October, 2008. Location Place : on way from Munnar to Kodaikanal ... Altitude : ... GPS : Habitat : Wild ... Type : Plant Habit : Shrub ... Height : ... Length : Leaves Type : ... Shape : ... Size : ... Inflorescence Type : ... Size : Flowers Size : not seen ... Colour : ... Calyx : ... Bracts : ... Fruits Type : ... Shape : round ... Size : ... Seeds : Other Info : Fragrance : ... Pollinator : ... Uses : ... There were no flowers when this picture was taken. Thanks Aarti
Re: [efloraofindia:44869] Re: Ficus arnottiana
Hi Dr.Pardeshi, Have looked at Renee's photographs again. Don't think it is Ficus rumphii because the base of the leaf is cordate and not truncate. Regards, Neil Soares. --- On Thu, 8/19/10, Pardeshi S. satishparde...@gmail.com wrote: From: Pardeshi S. satishparde...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:44859] Re: Ficus arnottiana To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 9:29 PM I feel the leaves belong to Ficus rumphii. can any body provide images of leaf of F. rumphii too. Regards Satish Pardeshi On Aug 19, 11:10 am, shubhada nikharge shubhada_nikha...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Dear Renee, Nice pics of leaves, stipules and figs. Good series of pics. Attaching the pics of Ficus arnottiana tree taken at Maharashtra Nature Park, Dharavi, Mumbai in Jan 2009. Marathi name : पायर Family : Moraceae Cheers, Shubhada I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do. From: renee vyas vyas reneevy...@gmail.com To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, 19 August, 2010 9:31:49 AM Subject: [efloraofindia:44782] Ficus arnottiana Dear Friends, I am sharing the pictures of Ficus arnottiana taken in Candolium, North Goa in 1st week of Aug,10. Thanks, with regards, Renee Ficus arnottiana bark पायर 2009_0118_mnp_0012 e.jpg 155KViewDownload Ficus arnottiana bark पायर 2009_0118_mnp_0013 e.jpg 157KViewDownload
Re: [efloraofindia:44870] Habenaria marginata_NBR_Teh_Aug 2010
Dear Ninad Thanks a lot for sharing. This is one of the very few Habenarias in India which has yellow flowers. Till evening I thought that this plant is Habenaria marginata Colebr. in W.J.Hooker, Exot. Fl.: t. 136 (1824). but when I saw Dr. Almeida's Flora of Maharastra, I got shocked and my over 8 years of Orchid research went in vain, because he calls this plant as Habenaria heyneana Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl.: 320 (1835), Almeida, Orchidaceae in, Flora of Maharastra vol 5A, t. 18, f. 52, p. 58 (2009). and according to him this is the plant which is called Tooth Brush Orchid. At first I thought there was a mistake in attaching the pics in the book, but then I realised that he has described this plant with yellow flowers, but the original H. heyneana which I had known was having white flowers which were secund. God save me! Pankaj On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Ninad Raut rautnin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Sharing Habenaria marginata with you all. Details: Common name: (English) Golden Yellow Habenaria; (Marathi) पिवली हबेआमरी (Pivali habe amri) Photographed at: District Tehri, Uttarakhand on August 14, 2010. Forest type: Pine Forest Elevation: 1300m Additional info: Acc. to eFlora of China: Habenaria marginata Colebrooke in Hooker, Exot. Fl. 2: ad t. 136. 1824. Platanthera marginata (Colebrooke) Lindley. Plants 8-37 cm tall. Tubers ellipsoid or narrowly ellipsoid, 2-4 × 1-2.5 cm, fleshy. Stem erect, terete, glabrous, with 1 or 2 tubular sheaths at base, 3-5 leaves below middle, and 3-5 bractlike leaves above. Leaf blade narrowly oblong or oblong-lanceolate, 4-9 × 1-2 cm, base contracted into amplexicaul sheath, margin yellow when dried, apex acuminate or subobtuse. Raceme 3-15-flowered, 2.5-10 cm; floral bracts lanceolate, apex long acuminate; ovary twisted, arching, cylindric-fusiform, including pedicel 8-13 mm. Sepals green, petals and lip yellow. Dorsal sepal forming a hood with petals, erect, cordate or broadly ovate, concave, 7-7.5 × 5-6 mm, 3-veined, apex acute; lateral sepals reflexed, obliquely ovate or narrowly ovate-oblong, 7.5-8.5 × 2.5-3.5 mm, 3-veined, apex acute. Petals obliquely ovate-triangular, 6.5-7.3 × 3-3.8 mm, 2-veined, apex acute; lip spreading, 11-13 mm, deeply 3-lobed above base; lateral lobes spreading at acute angles to mid-lobe, linear or linear-lanceolate, 7-8 × 1-1.4 mm; mid-lobe ligulate, 8-9 × 2-2.3 mm; spur pendulous, clavate, 8-13 mm, apical half dilated and 1.5-2 mm in diam.; stigmas falcate, long. Fl. Oct-Nov. 2n = 42. Forests, grasslands at forest margins; 500-1200 m. S Yunnan [Bhutan, India, Kashmir, Myanmar, Nepal, Thailand]. [http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2taxon_id=242422762] Acc. to eFlora of Pakistan Type: Botanical Garden, Calcutta (Introduced by accident according to Mr. Cole¬brooke, obs. July 1814). Distribution: Northwestern Himalaya, eastwards to Bhutan and Burma, up to 3000 m. [http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5taxon_id=242422762] Many Regards, Ninad -- Ninad B. Raut Senior Research Fellow Survey and Mapping of Medicinal Plants in Uttarakhand Department of Habitat Ecology Wildlife Institute of India P.O. Box # 18, Chandrabani Dehradun - 248 001. India Tel: 0135 26401 11 - 15
[efloraofindia:44871] Re: Habenaria marginata_NBR_Teh_Aug 2010
Dear Pankaj Sir, Thanks for correction but I even checked on Flowers of India Mr. Pravin Kawale's photo which was identified by Pravin ji and Mr. Navendu Page. http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Golden%20Yellow%20Habenaria.html Regards Ninad Raut SRF, WII (Dehra Dun) On Aug 19, 11:38 pm, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Ninad Thanks a lot for sharing. This is one of the very few Habenarias in India which has yellow flowers. Till evening I thought that this plant is Habenaria marginata Colebr. in W.J.Hooker, Exot. Fl.: t. 136 (1824). but when I saw Dr. Almeida's Flora of Maharastra, I got shocked and my over 8 years of Orchid research went in vain, because he calls this plant as Habenaria heyneana Lindl., Gen. Sp. Orchid. Pl.: 320 (1835), Almeida, Orchidaceae in, Flora of Maharastra vol 5A, t. 18, f. 52, p. 58 (2009). and according to him this is the plant which is called Tooth Brush Orchid. At first I thought there was a mistake in attaching the pics in the book, but then I realised that he has described this plant with yellow flowers, but the original H. heyneana which I had known was having white flowers which were secund. God save me! Pankaj On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Ninad Raut rautnin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Sharing Habenaria marginata with you all. Details: Common name: (English) Golden Yellow Habenaria; (Marathi) पिवली हबेआमरी (Pivali habe amri) Photographed at: District Tehri, Uttarakhand on August 14, 2010. Forest type: Pine Forest Elevation: 1300m Additional info: Acc. to eFlora of China: Habenaria marginata Colebrooke in Hooker, Exot. Fl. 2: ad t. 136. 1824. Platanthera marginata (Colebrooke) Lindley. Plants 8-37 cm tall. Tubers ellipsoid or narrowly ellipsoid, 2-4 × 1-2.5 cm, fleshy. Stem erect, terete, glabrous, with 1 or 2 tubular sheaths at base, 3-5 leaves below middle, and 3-5 bractlike leaves above. Leaf blade narrowly oblong or oblong-lanceolate, 4-9 × 1-2 cm, base contracted into amplexicaul sheath, margin yellow when dried, apex acuminate or subobtuse. Raceme 3-15-flowered, 2.5-10 cm; floral bracts lanceolate, apex long acuminate; ovary twisted, arching, cylindric-fusiform, including pedicel 8-13 mm. Sepals green, petals and lip yellow. Dorsal sepal forming a hood with petals, erect, cordate or broadly ovate, concave, 7-7.5 × 5-6 mm, 3-veined, apex acute; lateral sepals reflexed, obliquely ovate or narrowly ovate-oblong, 7.5-8.5 × 2.5-3.5 mm, 3-veined, apex acute. Petals obliquely ovate-triangular, 6.5-7.3 × 3-3.8 mm, 2-veined, apex acute; lip spreading, 11-13 mm, deeply 3-lobed above base; lateral lobes spreading at acute angles to mid-lobe, linear or linear-lanceolate, 7-8 × 1-1.4 mm; mid-lobe ligulate, 8-9 × 2-2.3 mm; spur pendulous, clavate, 8-13 mm, apical half dilated and 1.5-2 mm in diam.; stigmas falcate, long. Fl. Oct-Nov. 2n = 42. Forests, grasslands at forest margins; 500-1200 m. S Yunnan [Bhutan, India, Kashmir, Myanmar, Nepal, Thailand]. [http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2taxon_id=242422762] Acc. to eFlora of Pakistan Type: Botanical Garden, Calcutta (Introduced by accident according to Mr. Cole¬brooke, obs. July 1814). Distribution: Northwestern Himalaya, eastwards to Bhutan and Burma, up to 3000 m. [http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5taxon_id=242422762] Many Regards, Ninad -- Ninad B. Raut Senior Research Fellow Survey and Mapping of Medicinal Plants in Uttarakhand Department of Habitat Ecology Wildlife Institute of India P.O. Box # 18, Chandrabani Dehradun - 248 001. India Tel: 0135 26401 11 - 15
Re: [efloraofindia:44872] Re: ID request-150810-PKA1
How about *Cassia hochstetteri* ? (not sure but) Revision of Cassinae by Dr.V.Singh, will be helpful to id this. With regards Vijayasankar On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Tabish tabi...@gmail.com wrote: I think this plant needs some further thinking. Flora of Pakistan says that Cassia pumila has 6-25 pairs of leaflets, and doesn't talk about any terminal leaflet. This plant with large terminal leaflet, then cannot be Cassia pumila. Cassia kolabensis, on the other hand, is supposed to have 5-9 leaflets, too far away from the 17 or so leaflets seen here. But curiously a pdf file mailed to me by Prashant shows a drawing of Cassia kolabensis where 13 leaflets are also seen! Apart from the number of leaflets, the description of Cassia kolabensis agrees very well with the plant here, including the needle-like point at the end of the leaflets and the terminal leaflet being larger and of different shape. By the way, the current name is Chamaecrista kolabensis. - Tabish On Aug 16, 12:38 pm, Sweedle Cerejo sweedle.cer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello once again! Just an addition - Only one species of *Cassia* L. with imparipinnate leaves when one considers the Flora of Maharashtra. Regards, Sweedle Cerejo Research Fellow St. Xavier's College Mumbai 41 The more our world functions like the natural world, the more likely we are to endure on this home that is ours, but not ours alone. ~ Janine Benyus On 16 August 2010 13:02, Sweedle Cerejo sweedle.cer...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All! There is only one species of *Cassia* L. that has imparipinnate leaves and that is *Cassia kolabensis* Kothari, Moorthy et Nair. This is probably the same one. Regards, Sweedle Cerejo Research Fellow St. Xavier's College Mumbai 41 The more our world functions like the natural world, the more likely we are to endure on this home that is ours, but not ours alone. ~ Janine Benyus On 15 August 2010 20:14, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Shrikant ji, Thanks for the ID. Leaflets were 7 pairs as against 10-20 pairs mentioned by you. I checked up with efloraofpakistan ( http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5taxon_id=200012030 ). It mentions 6 to 25 pairs. regards Prashant On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:12 PM, shrikant ingalhalikar le...@rediffmail.com wrote: Cassia pumila. Leaflets would be 10-20 pairs. Regards, Shriikant On Aug 15, 11:02 am, Prashant awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, Came across this erect herb with Pinnate leaves on the way to Prabalgad. Could this be some Cassia sp?? Date/Time: 14-08-2010 / 12:35 PM Location: Thakurwadi, at the base of Prabalgad. Habitat: wild Plant Habit: Erect Herb, Approx 35 to 40cm in height. Leaves Pinnate, leaflets having sharp point at the apex. Flower: Yellow with 5 petals regards Prashant Unid-Prabal-3.jpg 192KViewDownload Unid-Prabal-4.jpg 198KViewDownload Unid-Prabal-1.jpg 147KViewDownload Unid-Prabal-2.jpg 180KViewDownload
Re: [efloraofindia:44874] flower for ID190810MN
Centaurea cyanus indeed Gurcharan Ji upladed this plant from Kashmir 1 month ago !! tanay On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:33 PM, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.de wrote: It is cornflower *Centaurea cyanus*. It used to grow along with corn poppy *Papaver rhoeas* in the grainfields before extensive use of herbicides was made. Even now, sometimes one sees these two flowers together along the roadside, also a popular motive in aquarelles. The botanical name comes from the centaur (Centaurea) Chiron, is said to have healed with the cornflower (Centaurea cyanus) a wound at the foot of the hero Achilles Attaching a foto of Flockenblume *(Centaurea) * from my garden, taken in Juni 2010 regards nalini - Original Message - *From:* Farida Abraham fa.abra...@gmail.com *To:* Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com *Cc:* mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com ; indiantreepix@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:13 PM *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:44854] flower for ID190810MN common name cornflower/ comes in shades of blue, mauve and pink. FA On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Common garden plant, Centaurea cyanus. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:03 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Friends, Sending a photo of the flower. Kindly identify. Date/Time: June 2009 2.00 p.m Location: Pahalgam, Kashmir Habitat: Cultivated in a garden Plant Habit: herb Fruits - Not seen Regards, Mani Nair -- Mrs. F. Abraham. Principal, La Martiniere Girls' College, Lucknow 226001. -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44875] Re: Another Bauhinia for ID..
Bauhinia acuminata is quite possible but hard to confirm without the picture of the leaves Tanay On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Tabish tabi...@gmail.com wrote: Arvind, do you have a picture with leaves? That will set all doubts at rest. - Tabish On Aug 19, 7:30 pm, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Pankaj ji ... any sense in this fraction of a line (excerpted from Google search result) : ... and the bilobed stigmas in Bauhinia were particularly good examples of ...http://www.jstor.org/pss/4118749(restricted access) Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Pankaj ji You stumped us well. You are right. The search is again on!! -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: One question: Will Bauhinia have a bilobed stigma? Pankaj On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Kadus ji ... a native of Malaysia ... *Bauhinia acuminata* ... commonly known as: dwarf white orchid tree / white orchid tree / orchid tree, snowy orchid, white bauhinia. Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:45 PM, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in wrote: This plant belongs to my garden. I had collected the seeds from Muradi, Harnai,Tal.Dapoli.Ratnagiri. Totally white in colour. Yet didn't see the stamens curiously. Small bushy plant not more than 10 ft. Dr. kadus Arvind,Pune. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44876] Solanum fruits for ID : 190810-AK-3
Solanum viarum used as a vegetable Tanay On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Yazdy Palia yazdypa...@gmail.com wrote: Solanum Viarum. Regards Yazdy Palia. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.com wrote: Date/Time : 22nd of October, 2008. Location Place : on way from Munnar to Kodaikanal ... Altitude : ... GPS : Habitat : Wild ... Type : Plant Habit : Shrub ... Height : ... Length : Leaves Type : ... Shape : ... Size : ... Inflorescence Type : ... Size : Flowers Size : not seen ... Colour : ... Calyx : ... Bracts : ... Fruits Type : ... Shape : round ... Size : ... Seeds : Other Info : Fragrance : ... Pollinator : ... Uses : ... There were no flowers when this picture was taken. Thanks Aarti -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44877] ID Request For Bauhinia..
In South Florida (USA), B. purpurea usually blooms late summer, into fall, hence its common name (here) as Fall Orchid Tree. (B. purpurea will not grow in Southern California's Mediterranean climate.) In Southern California, B. x blakeana (Hong Kong Orchid Tree) may start blooming in August, extending into the fall months. Curiously, it is a spring bloomer in South Florida. Regards-- Ken. From: promila chaturvedi thegardener.chaturv...@gmail.com To: Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com Cc: Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com; arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in; indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 5:58:26 AM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:44833] ID Request For Bauhinia.. Dear Members, I want to know which tree Bauhinia blooms in August in Northern Hemisphere. Promila On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Dinesh ji, some cultivar of B. purpurea. Narrow petals and 3 stamens are distinctive. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Kadus ji, ... Bauhinia purpurea ... commonly known as: butterfly tree, orchid tree, purple bauhinia • Assamese: kurial, kanchan, og-yok • Bengali: koiral, রক্তকাঞ্চন raktakanchana • Garo: megong • Gujarati: દેવકંચન devkanchan • Hindi: कांचन kanchan, लाल कचनार lal kachnar, केवनार kevnar • Kannada: devakanchan, kanjivala, kempu mandaara • Khasi: dieng long • Malayalam: chovanna-mandaru, suvannamandaram • Manipuri: chingthao angangba • Marathi: देवकांचन devakanchan, रक्तकांचन raktakanchan • Mizoram: vaube, vaufavang • Oriya: vaube, borodo • Sanskrit: देवकांचन devakanchan, रक्तकांचन raktakanchan, रक्तकोविदार raktakovidara • Tamil: மந்தாரை mandarai, நீலத்திருவத்தி nilattiruvatti • Telugu: bodanta, దేవకాంచనము devakanjanamu, kanchanam Regards. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:33 PM, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Bauhinia species.. In Pasarani Ghat towards mahabaleshwar, left side near the temple. There is no flowering I have seen on Bauhinias in other places, But this plant is full of flowers in middle of August. Flowers- White in colour having pink tinge. stamens 3 fertile.
Re: [efloraofindia:44878] pl identify.
The first one appears to be some sort of Schefflera species (with inflorescences much like S. pueckleri), but I don't recognize it specifically. Regards-- Ken. From: ushaprabha page ushaprabhap...@gmail.com To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 4:24:10 AM Subject: [efloraofindia:44824] pl identify. First 3 photos belong to one and same tree location- Eaglenest wls. taken on 19 th May 2009. 4.Lily? which?-location and date as above.. 5.and6. flowers and leaves of the one and same plant, location and date as above
Re: [efloraofindia:44880] please id this fern
Dear Arjun ji, this is *Asparagus racemosus*, called as *Shatavari* in Sanskrit meaning 'the plant of one hundred roots'. Its a flowering plant. Leaves are highly reduced and the branchlets are modified into short needle-like structures, giving probably a 'fern-like' appearance but no way it is related to ferns. It has white flowers that give rise red fruits. Of course the tuberous roots are used for treating various ailments, but its use for treating jaundice is a news to me, thanks for the information. With regards Vijayasankar On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:48 PM, arjun dobighazam...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, Whenever i have access to internet, going through all the mails in this group is such a learning experience. Thank you to all members. Please do id this lovely looking fern, i've attached a photograph of its roots also. My co worker on the farm said the roots are used in treatment for jaundice. Interestingly a small piece of the root is tied around the neck jaundice disappears in a few days :-)) -- Best ! Arjun. at village: Pishvi taluka: Velhe district: Pune Maharashtra. Pin : 412 212 +91 981 0448200 +91 940 4241901
Re: [efloraofindia:44881] please id this fern
is it asparagus? On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:18:10 +0530 wrote Dear friends, Whenever i have access to internet, going through all the mails in this group is such a learning experience. Thank you to all members. Please do id this lovely looking fern, i've attached a photograph of its roots also. My co worker on the farm said the roots are used in treatment for jaundice. Interestingly a small piece of the root is tied around the neck jaundice disappears in a few days :-)) -- Best ! Arjun. at village: Pishvi taluka: Velhe district: Pune Maharashtra. Pin : 412 212 +91 981 0448200 +91 940 4241901
Re: [efloraofindia:44883] Re: Ficus arnottiana
Yes Neil ji. F. rumphii is similar to F. religiosa in leaf base being truncate or rounded, although tail is 1.5-2.5 cm long like F. arnottiana. In above plants leaves are clearly cordate at base, characteristic of C. arnottiana. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi Dr.Pardeshi, Have looked at Renee's photographs again. Don't think it is Ficus rumphii because the base of the leaf is cordate and not truncate. Regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 8/19/10, Pardeshi S. satishparde...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pardeshi S. satishparde...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:44859] Re: Ficus arnottiana To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 9:29 PM I feel the leaves belong to Ficus rumphii. can any body provide images of leaf of F. rumphii too. Regards Satish Pardeshi On Aug 19, 11:10 am, shubhada nikharge shubhada_nikha...@yahoo.co.inhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=shubhada_nikha...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Dear Renee, Nice pics of leaves, stipules and figs. Good series of pics. Attaching the pics of Ficus arnottiana tree taken at Maharashtra Nature Park, Dharavi, Mumbai in Jan 2009. Marathi name : पायर Family : Moraceae Cheers, Shubhada I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do. From: renee vyas vyas reneevy...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reneevy...@gmail.com To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantree...@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, 19 August, 2010 9:31:49 AM Subject: [efloraofindia:44782] Ficus arnottiana Dear Friends, I am sharing the pictures of Ficus arnottiana taken in Candolium, North Goa in 1st week of Aug,10. Thanks, with regards, Renee Ficus arnottiana bark पायर 2009_0118_mnp_0012 e.jpg 155KViewDownload Ficus arnottiana bark पायर 2009_0118_mnp_0013 e.jpg 157KViewDownload
[efloraofindia:0] Stop a nuclear disaster
Hi ,Our leaders are putting the nation at stake for the nuclear liability bill. The Standing Committee looking at the bill has submitted its recommendations to the Parliament. The BJP has been bought over by the Congress and is now supporting this bill. The Cabinet will meet on 19th August,2010 and the bill gets tabled next week. In its current form the bill limits the liability for operator of the nuclear facility in case of a nuclear accident. If the cost exceeds the limit we will have to pay for it. The Standing Committee has ignored the demand for unlimited liability which would have made the bill more competent. Our leaders have not learnt anything from the injustices of Bhopal. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, eager to get this bill cleared needs to know that we want unlimited liability. I have already sent him an email asking him to incorporate unlimited liability in the bill. A large number of emails demanding the same will make it difficult for him to ignore us. We have very little time to make this change. Can you also write to PM Manmohan Singh asking him to incorporate unlimited liability? http://www.greenpeace.org/india/unlimited-liability Thanks! m_sundarara...@rediffmail.com You are receiving this email because someone you know sent it to you from the Greenpeace site. Greenpeace retains no information about individuals contacted through its site, and will not send you further messages without your consent -- although your friends could, of course, send you another message.
Re: [efloraofindia:44891] ¿ Etymology of AND about nessanum ?
I am not sure, but NESO means island or somethign related to island. May be it was found on some island. :p...the names suggests its based on the name of a place most probably. Regards Pankaj On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, 1) Can somebody help me know the derivation of the epithet - neesanum (context: Zingiber neesanum) - could it be derived from regional name in Maharashtra ? - in Shrikant ji's FOS and as also put at FOI, the regional name In Maharashtra is nisam निसम 2) Is Z. neesanum endemic to Western Ghats of Maharshtra and Goa ? What is the Konkani name (in Goa) ? Regards.
Re: [efloraofindia:44885] Re: Ficus arnottiana
Another interesting feature worth comparison is that C. religiosa has three basal veins (one midrib, two lateral), F. rumphii has 5 and R. arnottiana 7, in both latter lowermost pair is very faint. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Neil ji. F. rumphii is similar to F. religiosa in leaf base being truncate or rounded, although tail is 1.5-2.5 cm long like F. arnottiana. In above plants leaves are clearly cordate at base, characteristic of C. arnottiana. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote: Hi Dr.Pardeshi, Have looked at Renee's photographs again. Don't think it is Ficus rumphii because the base of the leaf is cordate and not truncate. Regards, Neil Soares. --- On *Thu, 8/19/10, Pardeshi S. satishparde...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Pardeshi S. satishparde...@gmail.com Subject: [efloraofindia:44859] Re: Ficus arnottiana To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 9:29 PM I feel the leaves belong to Ficus rumphii. can any body provide images of leaf of F. rumphii too. Regards Satish Pardeshi On Aug 19, 11:10 am, shubhada nikharge shubhada_nikha...@yahoo.co.inhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=shubhada_nikha...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Dear Renee, Nice pics of leaves, stipules and figs. Good series of pics. Attaching the pics of Ficus arnottiana tree taken at Maharashtra Nature Park, Dharavi, Mumbai in Jan 2009. Marathi name : पायर Family : Moraceae Cheers, Shubhada I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I can do. From: renee vyas vyas reneevy...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reneevy...@gmail.com To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantree...@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, 19 August, 2010 9:31:49 AM Subject: [efloraofindia:44782] Ficus arnottiana Dear Friends, I am sharing the pictures of Ficus arnottiana taken in Candolium, North Goa in 1st week of Aug,10. Thanks, with regards, Renee Ficus arnottiana bark पायर 2009_0118_mnp_0012 e.jpg 155KViewDownload Ficus arnottiana bark पायर 2009_0118_mnp_0013 e.jpg 157KViewDownload -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
Re: Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44892] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
Dear Pankaj I am still waiting to see the Orchidaceae part of Dr. Almeida's book for giving any type of reaction or comment. But as pointed by you it seems undigestible to transfer of any species of Malaxis to Corymborkis as they are far more distant phylogenetically as well as naturally (Dressler, 1993; Szlachtko, 1995; Pridgeon et al, 2005). I dont know under which circumstances Dr Almeida has effected this combination but as per my experience is concerned many of nom nov. or comb. nov. proposed by him are not accepted subsequently. He is an acomplished taxonomist I agree but reputation should not be the only criteria while accepting or not accepting somebody's observations. I apologige if I have hurt anyone in this group. Regards Dinesh On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:58:11 +0530 wrote I just got my hands on the Orchidaceae of Flora of Maharastra, I must say, that I was disappointed...I hope to see same reaction from Dinesh.Pankaj Dinesh Kumar Agrawala Research Officer (Botany) Central Council for Research in Ayurveda and Siddha Jawaharlal Nehru Bhartiya Chikitsa Avum Homeopathy Anusandhan Bhawan 61-65, Institutional Area Opposite D-Block, Janakpuri New Delhi - 110 058 Mobile: +91 9560570745 SAVE PLANTS AND SAVE LIFE
Re: [efloraofindia:44893] flower for ID190810MN
Thanks Gurcharan ji, Fardia ji, Tanay ji for the flower ID and Nalini ji for the information on Centaurea cyanus. Regards, Mani. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:09 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: Centaurea cyanus indeed Gurcharan Ji upladed this plant from Kashmir 1 month ago !! tanay On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:33 PM, nabha meghani nabha-megh...@gmx.dewrote: It is cornflower *Centaurea cyanus*. It used to grow along with corn poppy *Papaver rhoeas* in the grainfields before extensive use of herbicides was made. Even now, sometimes one sees these two flowers together along the roadside, also a popular motive in aquarelles. The botanical name comes from the centaur (Centaurea) Chiron, is said to have healed with the cornflower (Centaurea cyanus) a wound at the foot of the hero Achilles Attaching a foto of Flockenblume *(Centaurea) * from my garden, taken in Juni 2010 regards nalini - Original Message - *From:* Farida Abraham fa.abra...@gmail.com *To:* Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com *Cc:* mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com ; indiantreepix@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:13 PM *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:44854] flower for ID190810MN common name cornflower/ comes in shades of blue, mauve and pink. FA On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Common garden plant, Centaurea cyanus. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:03 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Friends, Sending a photo of the flower. Kindly identify. Date/Time: June 2009 2.00 p.m Location: Pahalgam, Kashmir Habitat: Cultivated in a garden Plant Habit: herb Fruits - Not seen Regards, Mani Nair -- Mrs. F. Abraham. Principal, La Martiniere Girls' College, Lucknow 226001. -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
[efloraofindia:44886] ¿ Etymology of AND about ness anum ?
Dear friends, 1) Can somebody help me know the derivation of the epithet - *neesanum*(context: *Zingiber neesanum*) - could it be derived from regional name in Maharashtra ? - in Shrikant ji's FOS and as also put at FOI, the regional name In Maharashtra is *nisam* निसम 2) Is *Z. neesanum* endemic to Western Ghats of Maharshtra and Goa ? What is the Konkani name (in Goa) ? Regards.
Re: [efloraofindia:44896] ¿ Etymology of AND about nessanum ?
May be it was to honour *Nees*, a botanist... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Gottfried_Daniel_Nees_von_Esenbeck With regards Vijayasankar On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: I am not sure, but NESO means island or somethign related to island. May be it was found on some island. :p...the names suggests its based on the name of a place most probably. Regards Pankaj On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, 1) Can somebody help me know the derivation of the epithet - neesanum (context: Zingiber neesanum) - could it be derived from regional name in Maharashtra ? - in Shrikant ji's FOS and as also put at FOI, the regional name In Maharashtra is nisam निसम 2) Is Z. neesanum endemic to Western Ghats of Maharshtra and Goa ? What is the Konkani name (in Goa) ? Regards.
Re: Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44897] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
Dear Dinesh, What I see is the bigger problem, when the fresh researchers and blind followers will use that reference and then get confused and create more confusion for future generation. The issues are not just limited to Corymborkis or Corymbochis but many other plants in Orchidaceae in that treatise. My file is around 60mb size, cant attach on the mail. Will try to reduce it and mail or you may send me your postal address I will post a cd. Just to remind the rest that BLAT or Blatter's Herbarium is supposed to be one of the most costly herbarium in the world if you wish to consult it. And then having publication from such herbarium doesnt look good. Sorry for saying all this. But the reference does have some interesting and appreciable things in it. Regards Pankaj On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:47 AM, dinesh kumar agrawala dk_...@rediffmail.com wrote: Dear Pankaj I am still waiting to see the Orchidaceae part of Dr. Almeida's book for giving any type of reaction or comment. But as pointed by you it seems undigestible to transfer of any species of Malaxis to Corymborkis as they are far more distant phylogenetically as well as naturally (Dressler, 1993; Szlachtko, 1995; Pridgeon et al, 2005). I dont know under which circumstances Dr Almeida has effected this combination but as per my experience is concerned many of nom nov. or comb. nov. proposed by him are not accepted subsequently. He is an acomplished taxonomist I agree but reputation should not be the only criteria while accepting or not accepting somebody's observations. I apologige if I have hurt anyone in this group. Regards Dinesh On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:58:11 +0530 wrote I just got my hands on the Orchidaceae of Flora of Maharastra, I must say, that I was disappointed...I hope to see same reaction from Dinesh.Pankaj Dinesh Kumar Agrawala Research Officer (Botany) Central Council for Research in Ayurveda and Siddha Jawaharlal Nehru Bhartiya Chikitsa Avum Homeopathy Anusandhan Bhawan 61-65, Institutional Area Opposite D-Block, Janakpuri New Delhi - 110 058 Mobile: +91 9560570745 SAVE PLANTS AND SAVE LIFE http://sigads.rediff.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.rediffmail.com/signatureline@middle?
Re: [efloraofindia:44899] ¿ Etymology of AND about nessanum ?
ya possible.thanks for pointing out Vijay, you are great :) Meaning pertaining to Nees!! Pankaj On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote: May be it was to honour Nees, a botanist... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Gottfried_Daniel_Nees_von_Esenbeck With regards Vijayasankar On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure, but NESO means island or somethign related to island. May be it was found on some island. :p...the names suggests its based on the name of a place most probably. Regards Pankaj On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, 1) Can somebody help me know the derivation of the epithet - neesanum (context: Zingiber neesanum) - could it be derived from regional name in Maharashtra ? - in Shrikant ji's FOS and as also put at FOI, the regional name In Maharashtra is nisam निसम 2) Is Z. neesanum endemic to Western Ghats of Maharshtra and Goa ? What is the Konkani name (in Goa) ? Regards.
Re: [efloraofindia:44900] ¿ Etymology of AND about nessanum ?
by the way, he never came to India or worked on Indian plants. Will someone name the plant after him in that case? Pankaj On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote: May be it was to honour Nees, a botanist... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Gottfried_Daniel_Nees_von_Esenbeck With regards Vijayasankar On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure, but NESO means island or somethign related to island. May be it was found on some island. :p...the names suggests its based on the name of a place most probably. Regards Pankaj On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, 1) Can somebody help me know the derivation of the epithet - neesanum (context: Zingiber neesanum) - could it be derived from regional name in Maharashtra ? - in Shrikant ji's FOS and as also put at FOI, the regional name In Maharashtra is nisam निसम 2) Is Z. neesanum endemic to Western Ghats of Maharshtra and Goa ? What is the Konkani name (in Goa) ? Regards.
Re: [efloraofindia:44901] Ixora-for-ID200810
Dear All Ixora chinensis a guess Regards Balkar Singh -- Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:44905] Ranunculus hirtellus from Kashmir
Nice photos thnaks for sharing Tanay On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Ranunculus hirtellus from Kashmir, common in subalpine and alpine meadows. Photographed from Khillenmarg on June 19, 2010. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44906] Ranunculus laetus from Kashmir
Lovely catch of the flowers with ants feasting on it!! tanay On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Ranunculus laetus from Kashmir, very common at lower altitudes in shaped areas, meadows and wet places. Photographed from Harwan on June 17, 19 from Pattan and 20 from Gulmarg. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44907] Ranunculus muricatus from Kashmir
Did you post this place from anyother place , I hope from Delhi ? Tanay On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Ranunculus muricatus from Kashmir, locally common in wet places. Photographed from Balgarden, Srinagar on June 15, 2010. Common name: Rough-fruit-buttercup -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44908] Ranunculus sceleratus from Kashmir
A new species for me thanks for sharing Tanay On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Ranunculus sceleratus from Kashmir, locally common in wet places, along ponds. Photographed from Avantipur and Pahalgam on June 20, 2010. Common names: Blister buttercup, Celery-leaf buttercup, Celery-leaf crowfoot, Cursed crowfoot, Marsh crowfoot - -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
[efloraofindia:44910] Re:
Dendropthoe falcata var amplexicaulis as described in Flora of Bombay navendu On Aug 19, 5:05 pm, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in wrote: ID Request please.. Dr. kadus arvind,Pune. IMG_4998A.JPG 137KViewDownload IMG_5000A.JPG 114KViewDownload
Re: [efloraofindia:44912] Plant-for-ID200810
*Epipremnum aureum* I hope commonly known as Money plant from the family Araceae. Tanay On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:08 AM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, Sending a photo of the plant growing inside our house, commonly known as Money plant. Kindly let me know its botanical name. Location : Dombivli Date : June 2010 Time : 10.00 a.m. Regards, Mani Nair -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
[efloraofindia:44913] Re: ID Request for Caesalpinia..
Caesalpinia crista navendu On Aug 19, 4:54 pm, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi, All, This plant was found at Veldur, Guhagar. Travelling from Dabhol to Guhagar via Getty. Near to Sea. Small bushy climber having spikes, yellow flowers, pods as in the picture. Please Id this plant of Caesalpinia. Dr. Kadus Arvind. Caesalpinia 44KViewDownload Caesalpinia 98KViewDownload Caesalpinia 179KViewDownload
Re: [efloraofindia:44914] Ixora-for-ID200810
I also think Ixora chinensis tanay On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All Ixora chinensis a guess Regards Balkar Singh -- Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44915] Cassia occidentalis from Panipat
Nice you see you are back with the group activity . A lovely and complete set of photos. Thanks for sharing Tanay On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All I am back again after a long gap. During this gap i learn a lots of lesson and will share some of them with you as well. As i lost my precious data, i will not be able to contribute much before going to some long tours. Now i have some photos from panipat and from shimla (recently visited). I will upload them one by one. I am also trying to get my data recovered, hope to get that soon. Very sorry for remaining away from the group For today here is Cassia occidentalis from Panipat With Best Regards -- Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44916] Re: ID Request for Caesalpinia..
Caesalpinia crista undoubtedly Tanay On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Navendu navendu.p...@gmail.com wrote: Caesalpinia crista navendu On Aug 19, 4:54 pm, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hi, All, This plant was found at Veldur, Guhagar. Travelling from Dabhol to Guhagar via Getty. Near to Sea. Small bushy climber having spikes, yellow flowers, pods as in the picture. Please Id this plant of Caesalpinia. Dr. Kadus Arvind. Caesalpinia 44KViewDownload Caesalpinia 98KViewDownload Caesalpinia 179KViewDownload -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44917] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
Dear Dinesh ji There is no question of hurting anyone. This group is meant for frank discussion, as long as we don't cross certain Lakshman Rekha. Let us be bold enough to face a simple fact. Dr. Almeida's publication is the most recent publication on this species complex, unless it is refuted or rejected in some book or journal, it is going to stay. Many students and researchers will follow it as the most recent nomenclature, till some established database or publication gives us a different option.. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Dinesh, What I see is the bigger problem, when the fresh researchers and blind followers will use that reference and then get confused and create more confusion for future generation. The issues are not just limited to Corymborkis or Corymbochis but many other plants in Orchidaceae in that treatise. My file is around 60mb size, cant attach on the mail. Will try to reduce it and mail or you may send me your postal address I will post a cd. Just to remind the rest that BLAT or Blatter's Herbarium is supposed to be one of the most costly herbarium in the world if you wish to consult it. And then having publication from such herbarium doesnt look good. Sorry for saying all this. But the reference does have some interesting and appreciable things in it. Regards Pankaj On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:47 AM, dinesh kumar agrawala dk_...@rediffmail.com wrote: Dear Pankaj I am still waiting to see the Orchidaceae part of Dr. Almeida's book for giving any type of reaction or comment. But as pointed by you it seems undigestible to transfer of any species of Malaxis to Corymborkis as they are far more distant phylogenetically as well as naturally (Dressler, 1993; Szlachtko, 1995; Pridgeon et al, 2005). I dont know under which circumstances Dr Almeida has effected this combination but as per my experience is concerned many of nom nov. or comb. nov. proposed by him are not accepted subsequently. He is an acomplished taxonomist I agree but reputation should not be the only criteria while accepting or not accepting somebody's observations. I apologige if I have hurt anyone in this group. Regards Dinesh On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:58:11 +0530 wrote I just got my hands on the Orchidaceae of Flora of Maharastra, I must say, that I was disappointed...I hope to see same reaction from Dinesh.Pankaj Dinesh Kumar Agrawala Research Officer (Botany) Central Council for Research in Ayurveda and Siddha Jawaharlal Nehru Bhartiya Chikitsa Avum Homeopathy Anusandhan Bhawan 61-65, Institutional Area Opposite D-Block, Janakpuri New Delhi - 110 058 Mobile: +91 9560570745 SAVE PLANTS AND SAVE LIFE http://sigads.rediff.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.rediffmail.com/signatureline@middle?
Re: [efloraofindia:44918] Ranunculus muricatus from Kashmir
Yes Tanay, my Delhi plant I was doubtful about, it had little or no murications. Even thus one has very small as compared to usual -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:21 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: Did you post this place from anyother place , I hope from Delhi ? Tanay On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote: Ranunculus muricatus from Kashmir, locally common in wet places. Photographed from Balgarden, Srinagar on June 15, 2010. Common name: Rough-fruit-buttercup -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44919] Plant-for-ID200810
Yes Tanay Money plant in only Indian homes, not any established book or database. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:32 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: *Epipremnum aureum* I hope commonly known as Money plant from the family Araceae. Tanay On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:08 AM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends, Sending a photo of the plant growing inside our house, commonly known as Money plant. Kindly let me know its botanical name. Location : Dombivli Date : June 2010 Time : 10.00 a.m. Regards, Mani Nair -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: [efloraofindia:44920] Cassia occidentalis from Panipat
Welcome you back Balkar ji Good photographs. Abundantly flowering in Delhi right now. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:35 AM, tanay bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote: Nice you see you are back with the group activity . A lovely and complete set of photos. Thanks for sharing Tanay On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.comwrote: Dear All I am back again after a long gap. During this gap i learn a lots of lesson and will share some of them with you as well. As i lost my precious data, i will not be able to contribute much before going to some long tours. Now i have some photos from panipat and from shimla (recently visited). I will upload them one by one. I am also trying to get my data recovered, hope to get that soon. Very sorry for remaining away from the group For today here is Cassia occidentalis from Panipat With Best Regards -- Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964 -- Tanay Bose Research Assistant Teaching Assistant Department of Botany University of British Columbia 3529-6270 University Blvd. Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada) Phone: 778-323-4036
Re: Re: Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44921] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
Respected Prof. Singhji It depends upon the students or researchers and their intensity of research. I felt it is not always necessary to follow the latest nomenclature as the correct one. Particularly in the case like this, where the view of the author is not reviewed by any subject expert or nomenclatural expert. This is a book and the author is free to write anything in his own book published by own publisher. Regards Dinesh On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:00 +0530 wrote Dear Dinesh jiThere is no question of hurting anyone. This group is meant for frank discussion, as long as we don't cross certain Lakshman Rekha. Let us be bold enough to face a simple fact. Dr. Almeida's publication is the most recent publication on this species complex, unless it is refuted or rejected in some book or journal, it is going to stay. Many students and researchers will follow it as the most recent nomenclature, till some established database or publication gives us a different option.. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Pankaj Kumar wrote: Dear Dinesh, What I see is the bigger problem, when the fresh researchers and blind followers will use that reference and then get confused and create more confusion for future generation. The issues are not just limited to Corymborkis or Corymbochis but many other plants in Orchidaceae in that treatise. My file is around 60mb size, cant attach on the mail. Will try to reduce it and mail or you may send me your postal address I will post a cd. Just to remind the rest that BLAT or Blatter's Herbarium is supposed to be one of the most costly herbarium in the world if you wish to consult it. And then having publication from such herbarium doesnt look good. Sorry for saying all this.But the reference does have some interesting and appreciable things in it.RegardsPankaj On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:47 AM, dinesh kumar agrawala wrote: Dear Pankaj I am still waiting to see the Orchidaceae part of Dr. Almeida's book for giving any type of reaction or comment. But as pointed by you it seems undigestible to transfer of any species of Malaxis to Corymborkis as they are far more distant phylogenetically as well as naturally (Dressler, 1993; Szlachtko, 1995; Pridgeon et al, 2005). I dont know under which circumstances Dr Almeida has effected this combination but as per my experience is concerned many of nom nov. or comb. nov. proposed by him are not accepted subsequently. He is an acomplished taxonomist I agree but reputation should not be the only criteria while accepting or not accepting somebody's observations. I apologige if I have hurt anyone in this group. Regards Dinesh On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:58:11 +0530 wrote I just got my hands on the Orchidaceae of Flora of Maharastra, I must say, that I was disappointed...I hope to see same reaction from Dinesh.Pankaj Dinesh Kumar Agrawala Research Officer (Botany) Central Council for Research in Ayurveda and Siddha Jawaharlal Nehru Bhartiya Chikitsa Avum Homeopathy Anusandhan Bhawan 61-65, Institutional Area Opposite D-Block, Janakpuri New Delhi - 110 058 Mobile: +91 9560570745 SAVE PLANTS AND SAVE LIFE Dinesh Kumar Agrawala Research Officer (Botany) Central Council for Research in Ayurveda and Siddha Jawaharlal Nehru Bhartiya Chikitsa Avum Homeopathy Anusandhan Bhawan 61-65, Institutional Area Opposite D-Block, Janakpuri New Delhi - 110 058 Mobile: +91 9560570745 SAVE PLANTS AND SAVE LIFE
Re: [efloraofindia:44922] Plant-for-ID200810
Epipremnum aureum Regards -- Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: [efloraofindia:44923] ¿ Etymology of AND about nessanum ?
... me too strongly think *neesanum* to be in honour of Nees von Esenbeck ... broad reference: A Sketch of the History of Indian Botany ... http://wgbis.ces.iisc.ernet.in/biodiversity/sahyadri/wgbis_info/botanical.htm Many thanks Vijayasankar ji for pointing out ... many thanks Gurcharan ji -- considering this to be some sort of exception in commemorative naming. Many thanks Pankaj for quick responses. The other query of this post is distribution of *Zingiber neesanum* in India (elsewhere in world) and want to know its regional names. This plant is rarely found on internet !! and not found in resource texts available with me !! Regards. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote: How about this hero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Friedrich_Ludwig_Nees_von_Esenbeck Many botanical names in Acanthaceae has his (Nees) name as author name. Perhaps if we check Brummit Powel's book, we will come to know about other names with Nees. With regards Vijayasankar On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote: by the way, he never came to India or worked on Indian plants. Will someone name the plant after him in that case? Pankaj On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote: May be it was to honour Nees, a botanist... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Gottfried_Daniel_Nees_von_Esenbeck With regards Vijayasankar On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure, but NESO means island or somethign related to island. May be it was found on some island. :p...the names suggests its based on the name of a place most probably. Regards Pankaj On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, 1) Can somebody help me know the derivation of the epithet - neesanum (context: Zingiber neesanum) - could it be derived from regional name in Maharashtra ? - in Shrikant ji's FOS and as also put at FOI, the regional name In Maharashtra is nisam निसम 2) Is Z. neesanum endemic to Western Ghats of Maharshtra and Goa ? What is the Konkani name (in Goa) ? Regards.
[efloraofindia:44927] Re: Plant-for-ID200810
Dear All, Is this also put under Pothos genus?? Thanks in anticipation. Regards Ninad Raut SRF, WII (Dehra Dun) On Aug 20, 10:27 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Epipremnum aureum Regards -- Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: Re: Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44929] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
I have Flora of Madhya Pradesh (All volumes) published by BSI. It is full of errors. I am not Botanist by education but when I go to field I find this flora useless most commonly. It seems that authors have simply copied the information gathered by early workers. They are not aware of ground realities. At first I decided to write in detail about it and inform the authorities but later I decided to label new species in the name of Traditional Healers and natives. Errors are common in Floras when written by First Class taxonomists (Dr.Sahani's classification). Have you ever heard of flora prepared by Third Class Taxonomists? No one publishes their work. Am I wrong? regards Pankaj Oudhia On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:54 AM, dinesh kumar agrawala dk_...@rediffmail.com wrote: Respected Prof. Singhji It depends upon the students or researchers and their intensity of research. I felt it is not always necessary to follow the latest nomenclature as the correct one. Particularly in the case like this, where the view of the author is not reviewed by any subject expert or nomenclatural expert. This is a book and the author is free to write anything in his own book published by own publisher. Regards Dinesh On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:00 +0530 wrote Dear Dinesh jiThere is no question of hurting anyone. This group is meant for frank discussion, as long as we don't cross certain Lakshman Rekha. Let us be bold enough to face a simple fact. Dr. Almeida's publication is the most recent publication on this species complex, unless it is refuted or rejected in some book or journal, it is going to stay. Many students and researchers will follow it as the most recent nomenclature, till some established database or publication gives us a different option.. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/ On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Pankaj Kumar wrote: Dear Dinesh, What I see is the bigger problem, when the fresh researchers and blind followers will use that reference and then get confused and create more confusion for future generation. The issues are not just limited to Corymborkis or Corymbochis but many other plants in Orchidaceae in that treatise. My file is around 60mb size, cant attach on the mail. Will try to reduce it and mail or you may send me your postal address I will post a cd. Just to remind the rest that BLAT or Blatter's Herbarium is supposed to be one of the most costly herbarium in the world if you wish to consult it. And then having publication from such herbarium doesnt look good. Sorry for saying all this.But the reference does have some interesting and appreciable things in it.RegardsPankaj On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:47 AM, dinesh kumar agrawala wrote: Dear Pankaj I am still waiting to see the Orchidaceae part of Dr. Almeida's book for giving any type of reaction or comment. But as pointed by you it seems undigestible to transfer of any species of Malaxis to Corymborkis as they are far more distant phylogenetically as well as naturally (Dressler, 1993; Szlachtko, 1995; Pridgeon et al, 2005). I dont know under which circumstances Dr Almeida has effected this combination but as per my experience is concerned many of nom nov. or comb. nov. proposed by him are not accepted subsequently. He is an acomplished taxonomist I agree but reputation should not be the only criteria while accepting or not accepting somebody's observations. I apologige if I have hurt anyone in this group. Regards Dinesh On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:58:11 +0530 wrote I just got my hands on the Orchidaceae of Flora of Maharastra, I must say, that I was disappointed...I hope to see same reaction from Dinesh.Pankaj Dinesh Kumar Agrawala Research Officer (Botany) Central Council for Research in Ayurveda and Siddha Jawaharlal Nehru Bhartiya Chikitsa Avum Homeopathy Anusandhan Bhawan 61-65, Institutional Area Opposite D-Block, Janakpuri New Delhi - 110 058 Mobile: +91 9560570745 SAVE PLANTS AND SAVE LIFE Dinesh Kumar Agrawala Research Officer (Botany) Central Council for Research in Ayurveda and Siddha Jawaharlal Nehru Bhartiya Chikitsa Avum Homeopathy Anusandhan Bhawan 61-65, Institutional Area Opposite D-Block, Janakpuri New Delhi - 110 058 Mobile: +91 9560570745 SAVE PLANTS AND SAVE LIFE http://sigads.rediff.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.rediffmail.com/signatureline@middle?
Re: [efloraofindia:44931] Re: Plant-for-ID200810
... yes dear Ninad, have found following synonyms: *Epipremnum aureum, Philodendron nechodomii, Pothos aureus, Scindapsus aureus, Scindapsus pinnatus* ... while compiling notes on the money plant. Not sure of their vaildity. Regards. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Ninad Raut rautnin...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Is this also put under Pothos genus?? Thanks in anticipation. Regards Ninad Raut SRF, WII (Dehra Dun) On Aug 20, 10:27 am, Balkar Arya balkara...@gmail.com wrote: Epipremnum aureum Regards -- Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
Re: Re: Re: Re: [efloraofindia:44930] Re: one more ground orchid for id from Amboli
Dear Dinesh Kumar ji, I think there is no restriction to follow any particular treatment. Whatever treatment you feel (here you means not You) more comfortable, you can very well follow that treatment unless otherwise it is considered or proved 'wrong' in some sense. Difference of opinion is not an uncommon thing in taxonomy. There are several examples. We have different systems of classifications, Cronquest, Takhtajan, APG I, II, III etc etc. But many of us still feel comfortable and following that of Bentham Hooker's inspite of knowing its demerits. Similarly *Cassia* is divided into three genera (Cassia, Senna, Chamaecrista), but some recent floras/efloras still consider them as One. That's why taxonomy is still very dynamic! You have all the right to write your (well analyzed) opinion about a particular treatment in suitable journal, so that others also may follow your's. Please take this in a lightest sense. With regards Vijayasankar On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:24 AM, dinesh kumar agrawala dk_...@rediffmail.com wrote: Respected Prof. Singhji It depends upon the students or researchers and their intensity of research. I felt it is not always necessary to follow the latest nomenclature as the correct one. Particularly in the case like this, where the view of the author is not reviewed by any subject expert or nomenclatural expert. This is a book and the author is free to write anything in his own book published by own publisher. Regards Dinesh On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:39:00 +0530 wrote Dear Dinesh jiThere is no question of hurting anyone. This group is meant for frank discussion, as long as we don't cross certain Lakshman Rekha. Let us be bold enough to face a simple fact. Dr. Almeida's publication is the most recent publication on this species complex, unless it is refuted or rejected in some book or journal, it is going to stay. Many students and researchers will follow it as the most recent nomenclature, till some established database or publication gives us a different option.. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Pankaj Kumar wrote: Dear Dinesh, What I see is the bigger problem, when the fresh researchers and blind followers will use that reference and then get confused and create more confusion for future generation. The issues are not just limited to Corymborkis or Corymbochis but many other plants in Orchidaceae in that treatise. My file is around 60mb size, cant attach on the mail. Will try to reduce it and mail or you may send me your postal address I will post a cd. Just to remind the rest that BLAT or Blatter's Herbarium is supposed to be one of the most costly herbarium in the world if you wish to consult it. And then having publication from such herbarium doesnt look good. Sorry for saying all this.But the reference does have some interesting and appreciable things in it.RegardsPankaj On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 9:47 AM, dinesh kumar agrawala wrote: Dear Pankaj I am still waiting to see the Orchidaceae part of Dr. Almeida's book for giving any type of reaction or comment. But as pointed by you it seems undigestible to transfer of any species of Malaxis to Corymborkis as they are far more distant phylogenetically as well as naturally (Dressler, 1993; Szlachtko, 1995; Pridgeon et al, 2005). I dont know under which circumstances Dr Almeida has effected this combination but as per my experience is concerned many of nom nov. or comb. nov. proposed by him are not accepted subsequently. He is an acomplished taxonomist I agree but reputation should not be the only criteria while accepting or not accepting somebody's observations. I apologige if I have hurt anyone in this group. Regards Dinesh On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:58:11 +0530 wrote I just got my hands on the Orchidaceae of Flora of Maharastra, I must say, that I was disappointed...I hope to see same reaction from Dinesh.Pankaj Dinesh Kumar Agrawala Research Officer (Botany) Central Council for Research in Ayurveda and Siddha Jawaharlal Nehru Bhartiya Chikitsa Avum Homeopathy Anusandhan Bhawan 61-65, Institutional Area Opposite D-Block, Janakpuri New Delhi - 110 058 Mobile: +91 9560570745 SAVE PLANTS AND SAVE LIFE Dinesh Kumar Agrawala Research Officer (Botany) Central Council for Research in Ayurveda and Siddha Jawaharlal Nehru Bhartiya Chikitsa Avum Homeopathy Anusandhan Bhawan 61-65, Institutional Area Opposite D-Block, Janakpuri New Delhi - 110 058 Mobile: +91 9560570745 SAVE PLANTS AND SAVE LIFE http://sigads.rediff.com/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/www.rediffmail.com/signatureline@middle?
Re: [efloraofindia:44936] ID request plant..
Hello , *This may be **Clerodendrum serratum* (Linnaeus) Moon. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:07 AM, arvind kadus agastiayur...@yahoo.co.inwrote: Hi, All, This plant is located in Mahabaleshwar-Poladpur ghat, 5-6 ft. plant, Purple coloured flowers. Regards, Dr. Kadus Arvind.Pune. -- Mr. Mayur D. Nandikar, Research Student, Department of Botany, Shivaji University, Kolhapur.
