[efloraofindia:156036] Re: 260513 ASP29

2013-05-27 Thread Harshad M. Pandit

 Is it Martynia annua Linn. ? Devil's claw

On Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:43:47 PM UTC+5:30, siva siva wrote:

 Can you please ID this plant. It is similar to Sesame and a friend says it 
 is wild sesame! Photo was taken in Sri Lanka in March 2012 in a paddy field.
  

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[efloraofindia:156038] Let us make interactions enjoyable

2013-05-27 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Dear members
All of us coming from diverse fields and different professions have joined
this group with sole purpose of sharing information, gaining information
from others who don't belong to your profession but have intimate contact
with plants in nature, and above all enjoying these interactions. Luckily
with examples high standards of interactions set by our senior colleagues
like Garg ji, Santhosh ji, Dinesh ji, Vijayasankar ji, Shrikant ji, Satish
ji, Mani ji, Prashant ji, Pankaj ji, Nidhan ji, Balkar ji and  others, the
interactions are much more harmonious than many other groups I am familiar
with. Thanks to all the members for maintaining this high level of
cordiality, so that we all enjoy to share information, in a forum where you
are solely involved for the sake of your mental satisfaction.
 We are also aware that in a such a large group, difference of opinion
are bound to arise, but let us give our opinions (mostly based on evidence)
without belittling of offending other members the least. All of us have
different levels of knowledge, and may find an opinion given by a
particular member not up to mark, but please let us not make judgments on
others, and simply give our opinion and leave it on others to infer.
 Let us all make efforts to share knowledge with a smile and take group
to new heights.


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Re: [efloraofindia:156039] Let us make interactions enjoyable

2013-05-27 Thread Dinesh Valke
Thanks Gurcharan ji. Such refreshing thoughts are nice; reminds us of
introspecting our own thoughts. I think it is best to bear an attitude that
we carry with us when we are in any temple.

Regards.
Dinesh


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear members
 All of us coming from diverse fields and different professions have joined
 this group with sole purpose of sharing information, gaining information
 from others who don't belong to your profession but have intimate contact
 with plants in nature, and above all enjoying these interactions. Luckily
 with examples high standards of interactions set by our senior colleagues
 like Garg ji, Santhosh ji, Dinesh ji, Vijayasankar ji, Shrikant ji, Satish
 ji, Mani ji, Prashant ji, Pankaj ji, Nidhan ji, Balkar ji and  others, the
 interactions are much more harmonious than many other groups I am familiar
 with. Thanks to all the members for maintaining this high level of
 cordiality, so that we all enjoy to share information, in a forum where you
 are solely involved for the sake of your mental satisfaction.
  We are also aware that in a such a large group, difference of opinion
 are bound to arise, but let us give our opinions (mostly based on evidence)
 without belittling of offending other members the least. All of us have
 different levels of knowledge, and may find an opinion given by a
 particular member not up to mark, but please let us not make judgments on
 others, and simply give our opinion and leave it on others to infer.
  Let us all make efforts to share knowledge with a smile and take
 group to new heights.


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 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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Re: [efloraofindia:156040] Let us make interactions enjoyable

2013-05-27 Thread Nidhan Singh
Yes Sir,

Everybody should agree upon these pertinent points. The very purpose of
interaction is lost, if it takes slightest turn from the intention it is
floored for..each and every member on this great forum is equal in terms of
commitment and participation..and is given due respect and honour..we are
lucky to have a very wide spectrum of nature lovers, expert
scientists...and hopefully the atmosphere in this forum will always be
enjoyable and cheering and each of us will always love to interact and
share...thanks..


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear members
 All of us coming from diverse fields and different professions have joined
 this group with sole purpose of sharing information, gaining information
 from others who don't belong to your profession but have intimate contact
 with plants in nature, and above all enjoying these interactions. Luckily
 with examples high standards of interactions set by our senior colleagues
 like Garg ji, Santhosh ji, Dinesh ji, Vijayasankar ji, Shrikant ji, Satish
 ji, Mani ji, Prashant ji, Pankaj ji, Nidhan ji, Balkar ji and  others, the
 interactions are much more harmonious than many other groups I am familiar
 with. Thanks to all the members for maintaining this high level of
 cordiality, so that we all enjoy to share information, in a forum where you
 are solely involved for the sake of your mental satisfaction.
  We are also aware that in a such a large group, difference of opinion
 are bound to arise, but let us give our opinions (mostly based on evidence)
 without belittling of offending other members the least. All of us have
 different levels of knowledge, and may find an opinion given by a
 particular member not up to mark, but please let us not make judgments on
 others, and simply give our opinion and leave it on others to infer.
  Let us all make efforts to share knowledge with a smile and take
 group to new heights.


 --
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 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
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Re: [efloraofindia:156041] Yeoor visit on 26/5/2013

2013-05-27 Thread Nidhan Singh
Sushant Ji..very beautiful pics, lovely close up..thanks for sharing..


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Sushant More sushantmor...@gmail.comwrote:

 Visited yeoor hills again from Thane area Got it what for we visited yeoor
 area forest :D

 Vanda tesatacea (Orchidaceae) Orchid Family

 26/5/2013 Yeoor hillsThane Maharashtra
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[efloraofindia:156047] Re: Let us make interactions enjoyable

2013-05-27 Thread D.S Rawat
Aptly pointed out sir.
I feel that many a times we tries to reach to the identity of a plant 
(represented by pics only here) without sufficient morphological evidences 
since specimen is not in our hand. Most authoritative identification is 
always based on the study of plant specimen and literature. particularly in 
case of the genera where species are hard to differentiate (example-*
Anaphalis* species). This point should be kept in mind 
while identifying our pics.
DSRawat Pantnagar 

On Monday, May 27, 2013 12:52:41 PM UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote:

 Dear members
 All of us coming from diverse fields and different professions have joined 
 this group with sole purpose of sharing information, gaining information 
 from others who don't belong to your profession but have intimate contact 
 with plants in nature, and above all enjoying these interactions. Luckily 
 with examples high standards of interactions set by our senior colleagues 
 like Garg ji, Santhosh ji, Dinesh ji, Vijayasankar ji, Shrikant ji, Satish 
 ji, Mani ji, Prashant ji, Pankaj ji, Nidhan ji, Balkar ji and  others, the 
 interactions are much more harmonious than many other groups I am familiar 
 with. Thanks to all the members for maintaining this high level of 
 cordiality, so that we all enjoy to share information, in a forum where you 
 are solely involved for the sake of your mental satisfaction.
  We are also aware that in a such a large group, difference of opinion 
 are bound to arise, but let us give our opinions (mostly based on evidence) 
 without belittling of offending other members the least. All of us have 
 different levels of knowledge, and may find an opinion given by a 
 particular member not up to mark, but please let us not make judgments on 
 others, and simply give our opinion and leave it on others to infer.
  Let us all make efforts to share knowledge with a smile and take 
 group to new heights.
   

 -- 
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 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 
  

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[efloraofindia:156048] Valley of flowers tour for year 2013

2013-05-27 Thread satyendra tiwari
Dear All,
Is there any Tour for Valley of Flowers is planned for this year?
I think our dear Friend Mr Rajesh Sachdev from Mumbai was planning some
tour for this year so I would like to know the update on that tour too.
Many Thanks.
Satyendra

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Re: [efloraofindia:156049] Re: Let us make interactions enjoyable

2013-05-27 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Very true Rawat ji. In fact you must have noticed that many of us use
sentences like I hope, I think even if we may
be 99 % sure about identification, but luckily good close ups take us much
further than  first hand study. Let us make best use of caution, but also
be happy that success rate of identifications on this group if more than 90
percent, and we also reassess our old identifications frequently. All this
would not have been possible without our dedicated experts.
The minimum we can do is show respect and gratification to these
experts, especially in light of the fact that they are providing this
service, in hundreds of identifications . Compare this with our Government
official websites. BSI charges Rs. 100 for identification of each
well-prepared herbarium sheet. Here just take a photograph and get it
identified for free.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:46 PM, D.S Rawat drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.comwrote:

 Aptly pointed out sir.
 I feel that many a times we tries to reach to the identity of a plant
 (represented by pics only here) without sufficient morphological evidences
 since specimen is not in our hand. Most authoritative identification is
 always based on the study of plant specimen and literature. particularly in
 case of the genera where species are hard to differentiate (example-*
 Anaphalis* species). This point should be kept in mind
 while identifying our pics.
 DSRawat Pantnagar


 On Monday, May 27, 2013 12:52:41 PM UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote:

 Dear members
 All of us coming from diverse fields and different professions have
 joined this group with sole purpose of sharing information, gaining
 information from others who don't belong to your profession but have
 intimate contact with plants in nature, and above all enjoying these
 interactions. Luckily with examples high standards of interactions set by
 our senior colleagues like Garg ji, Santhosh ji, Dinesh ji, Vijayasankar
 ji, Shrikant ji, Satish ji, Mani ji, Prashant ji, Pankaj ji, Nidhan ji,
 Balkar ji and  others, the interactions are much more harmonious than many
 other groups I am familiar with. Thanks to all the members for maintaining
 this high level of cordiality, so that we all enjoy to share information,
 in a forum where you are solely involved for the sake of your mental
 satisfaction.
  We are also aware that in a such a large group, difference of
 opinion are bound to arise, but let us give our opinions (mostly based on
 evidence) without belittling of offending other members the least. All of
 us have different levels of knowledge, and may find an opinion given by a
 particular member not up to mark, but please let us not make judgments on
 others, and simply give our opinion and leave it on others to infer.
  Let us all make efforts to share knowledge with a smile and take
 group to new heights.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://www.gurcharanfamily.**com/ http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
 http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

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[efloraofindia:156052] Re: Plant For ID : Flower Show,Mumbai : 180513 : AK-1

2013-05-27 Thread Dr Pankaj Kumar
I think this is an Aloe sp. could be nobilis but not sure.
Pankaj


On Saturday, 18 May 2013 21:23:09 UTC+8, Aarti S. Khale wrote:

 A plant seen at the Flower Show in Jijamata Udyan, Mumbai on 25/2/12.
 Potted, cultivated, ornamental plant.
 Aarti


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Re: [efloraofindia:156052] Re: Plant For ID : Flower Show,Mumbai : 180513 : AK-1

2013-05-27 Thread Aarti S. Khale
Pankaj ji,
Thanks for suggesting 'Aloe'.
Nidhi ji had suggested Aloe zebrina.
It does match with my pictures.
Kindly confirm.
Regards,
Aarti

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think this is an Aloe sp. could be nobilis but not sure.
 Pankaj


 On Saturday, 18 May 2013 21:23:09 UTC+8, Aarti S. Khale wrote:

 A plant seen at the Flower Show in Jijamata Udyan, Mumbai on 25/2/12.
 Potted, cultivated, ornamental plant.
 Aarti

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[efloraofindia:156056] Re: Alternanthera For ID : MNP,Mumbai : 260513 : AK-3

2013-05-27 Thread Aarti S. Khale
Rawat ji,
So sorry to have missed out your reply.
Many thanks for id confirmation.
Regards,
Aarti

On Monday, May 27, 2013 8:44:11 AM UTC+4, D.S Rawat wrote:

 *Alternanthera ficoides* (L.) Sm. (=*A.tenella* Colla) as per the Plant 
 List 2010.
 DSRawat Pantnagar

 On Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:35:41 PM UTC+5:30, Aarti S. Khale wrote:

 Alternanthera found growing wild in Maharashtra Nature Park, Mumbai on 
 22/4/13.
 Small plant with tiny white flowers.
 Id please.
 Aarti



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Re: [efloraofindia:156056] Re: Let us make interactions enjoyable

2013-05-27 Thread Promila Chaturvedi
Dear Experts,
One more advantage for an old person like me gets from this forum. Learning
some thing new negates the attack of Alzheimer.
Promila


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very true Rawat ji. In fact you must have noticed that many of us use
 sentences like I hope, I think even if we may
 be 99 % sure about identification, but luckily good close ups take us much
 further than  first hand study. Let us make best use of caution, but also
 be happy that success rate of identifications on this group if more than 90
 percent, and we also reassess our old identifications frequently. All this
 would not have been possible without our dedicated experts.
 The minimum we can do is show respect and gratification to these
 experts, especially in light of the fact that they are providing this
 service, in hundreds of identifications . Compare this with our Government
 official websites. BSI charges Rs. 100 for identification of each
 well-prepared herbarium sheet. Here just take a photograph and get it
 identified for free.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 1:46 PM, D.S Rawat 
 drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.comwrote:

 Aptly pointed out sir.
 I feel that many a times we tries to reach to the identity of a plant
 (represented by pics only here) without sufficient morphological evidences
 since specimen is not in our hand. Most authoritative identification is
 always based on the study of plant specimen and literature. particularly in
 case of the genera where species are hard to differentiate (example-*
 Anaphalis* species). This point should be kept in mind
 while identifying our pics.
 DSRawat Pantnagar


 On Monday, May 27, 2013 12:52:41 PM UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote:

 Dear members
 All of us coming from diverse fields and different professions have
 joined this group with sole purpose of sharing information, gaining
 information from others who don't belong to your profession but have
 intimate contact with plants in nature, and above all enjoying these
 interactions. Luckily with examples high standards of interactions set by
 our senior colleagues like Garg ji, Santhosh ji, Dinesh ji, Vijayasankar
 ji, Shrikant ji, Satish ji, Mani ji, Prashant ji, Pankaj ji, Nidhan ji,
 Balkar ji and  others, the interactions are much more harmonious than many
 other groups I am familiar with. Thanks to all the members for maintaining
 this high level of cordiality, so that we all enjoy to share information,
 in a forum where you are solely involved for the sake of your mental
 satisfaction.
  We are also aware that in a such a large group, difference of
 opinion are bound to arise, but let us give our opinions (mostly based on
 evidence) without belittling of offending other members the least. All of
 us have different levels of knowledge, and may find an opinion given by a
 particular member not up to mark, but please let us not make judgments on
 others, and simply give our opinion and leave it on others to infer.
  Let us all make efforts to share knowledge with a smile and take
 group to new heights.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://www.gurcharanfamily.**com/ http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
 http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

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Re: [efloraofindia:156057] Viola For ID : Nainital,Uttarakhand : 200513 : AK-1

2013-05-27 Thread Aarti S. Khale
Dear all,
Can this be Viola canescens, common name Himalayan White Viola as in
flowersofindia?
Experts kindly confirm id.
Regards,
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 Forwarding again for Id assistance please.


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 Viola species seen at Nainital, Uttarakhand on 23/3/13.
 Very tiny flowers seen growing wild.
 Id please.
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Re: [efloraofindia:156058] Re: Alternanthera For ID : MNP,Mumbai : 260513 : AK-3

2013-05-27 Thread Promila Chaturvedi
I used Alternanthera as ground cover, but never got such lovely plants to
grow.
Promila


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Rawat ji,
 So sorry to have missed out your reply.
 Many thanks for id confirmation.
 Regards,
 Aarti


 On Monday, May 27, 2013 8:44:11 AM UTC+4, D.S Rawat wrote:

 *Alternanthera ficoides* (L.) Sm. (=*A.tenella* Colla) as per the Plant
 List 2010.
 DSRawat Pantnagar

 On Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:35:41 PM UTC+5:30, Aarti S. Khale wrote:

 Alternanthera found growing wild in Maharashtra Nature Park, Mumbai on
 22/4/13.
 Small plant with tiny white flowers.
 Id please.
 Aarti

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Re: [efloraofindia:156059] Re: Plant For ID : Flower Show,Mumbai : 180513 : AK-1

2013-05-27 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Yes your plant looks like Aloe zebrina.
Thanks
Pankaj


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 Pankaj ji,
 Thanks for suggesting 'Aloe'.
 Nidhi ji had suggested Aloe zebrina.
 It does match with my pictures.
 Kindly confirm.
 Regards,
 Aarti

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 wrote:

 I think this is an Aloe sp. could be nobilis but not sure.
 Pankaj


 On Saturday, 18 May 2013 21:23:09 UTC+8, Aarti S. Khale wrote:

 A plant seen at the Flower Show in Jijamata Udyan, Mumbai on 25/2/12.
 Potted, cultivated, ornamental plant.
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Re: [efloraofindia:156060] Asteraceae Fortnight Part I-Radiate Heads: Inula cuspidata from different locations- NS 73

2013-05-27 Thread J.M. Garg
A reply:
This is inula cuspidata.
Krishan lal

Thanks, Kishan ji for all the help.


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 Forwarding again for validation please.

  efi page on Inula 
 cuspidatahttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/inula/inula-cuspidata


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 Dear All,

 This species was shot from Morni Hills, Gori valley and Dalhousie...I
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Re: [efloraofindia:156063] plant ID from ludhiana

2013-05-27 Thread Promila Chaturvedi
It may be Rhyncospermum jasminoids.
Promila


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 habit  climber
 leaf   trifoliate
 floweringapril,
 colorwhite
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Re: [efloraofindia:156064] 230513 ASP 26

2013-05-27 Thread J.M. Garg
A reply from Mahadeswara ji:
Looks like some Meliaceae member. The photograph is not clear. Better you
post the close ups of the flowers foliage for a possible ID.


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  Can you pl ID this medicinal plant, a small shrub/climber that grows in
 dry area in Northern Sri Lanka. Photo was taken in Dec 2012

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Re: [efloraofindia:156066] Re: !!! internet is full of confusion !!! books may also !!!

2013-05-27 Thread Samir Mehta
Surajit,

It's always good to keep an open mind on the id until the very end
especially in our / the circumstances.

  involucre

A whorl of bracts subtending a flower or flower cluster; the calyx-like
structure at the base of a capitulum, as in the Asteraceae.

I hope you find the definition of involucre  easy to understand. Armed with
this definition you must tell us your where and in which image of yours the
involucre is seen!

Have not had the time to read the article you have suggested - time is a
very precious commodity.

Be rest assured I will follow-up on this thread and make my own attempts to
nail the id.

Regards,

Samir Mehta



On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 8:00 PM, surajit koley 
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 Sir,

 Long ago while i tried to id a few cyperaceae i searched involucre and
 google gave me tons of asteraceae. A search of bracts is more
 head-spinning.

 I think my species is not *Leea compactiflora* Kurz, J. Asiat. Soc.
 Bengal, Pt. 2, Nat. Hist. 42: 65. 1873. of FoC.

 *Leea compactiflora* Kurz, of FoC = *Leea bracteata* C. B. Clarke; *L.
 trifoliata* M. A. 
 Lawsonhttp://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2taxon_id=242328692
 .

 You will find descriptions, along with distribution of the above three in
 pages 138, 139, 164, 165  102; along with notes of Clarke in Journal of
 Botany, British  Foreign, vol. 
 19http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/34839540#page/111/mode/1up
 .

 Attaching flowers pictures of the plant in this thread.

 It is either *L. robusta* Roxb. or *L. aequata* L. Both the species had
 been described in the same journal. For the time being i select *L.
 robusta* Roxb.

 Please note *L. robusta* Roxb. is not exactly the same plant what has
 been described in Flora of British India, which had been referred by
 Bengal Plants itself. Of course this is my little understanding based on
 very little knowledge of botany.

 Regards,
 surajit




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 '..Yet i'm heading nowhere!'

 Not at all; I think you you are pretty much there Surajit.
 You need to take a short break, relax and then look at your own images
 again and the FoC illustration
 [http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=93910flora_id=2] and
 co-relate.

 As you are the enthusiastic I will suggest you google the terms eg.
 'involucre images' and you will get a whole lot of images and definitions
 on 'involucre'. This way you will 'learn how to fish rather than be given /
 fed a fish'. By the way, I do the same when I do not know something.

 Though FoC keys are based on leaves there are other keys which are
 dependent on the floral elements and will therefore appreciate if close-up
 images of the flower are posted, as and when available.

 Lastly, I must bring to your notice that mysterious software bugs / 
 administrative
 changes are being made to the posting options such that my posts do not
 reach the group-site or reach late thereby distorting the sequence in which
 the posts appear. This can lead to much misunderstanding and disharmony. I
 have stated this on the group before also.

  Regards,

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 On Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:15:21 AM UTC+5:30, surajitkoley wrote:

 Good morning Sir

 It will be very kind of you if you please tell me which of the images in
 this thread bears 1) large, broad, elliptic / oval-elliptic bracts 2) large
 elliptic-lanceolate involucre 3) which species it fits into the species
 list described in the Bengal Plants.

 It seems to be so easy (to experts), so clear
 Yet i'm heading nowhere!

 Regards,
 surajit


 On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Samir Mehta samirm...@gmail.comwrote:

 My dear Surajit,

 So near yet so far!

  http://www.efloras.org/**object**_page.aspx?object_id=**93670**
 flora_id=2http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=93670flora_id=2
 .

   Adaxial leaflet surface glabrous, abaxial surface pubescent; bracts
 conspicuously broad and large, elliptic or oval-elliptic.



 7 *L. 
 compactiflora*http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2taxon_id=242328692

  *Leea compactiflora* Kurz, J. Asiat. Soc. Bengal, Pt. 2, Nat. Hist.
 42: 65. 1873.

 If you can post close-up of flower  fruit I would like to compare it
 with images from Maharashtra though if you go strictly by the 'keys' it
 does not look necessary in this case .

 Best Wishes,

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Re: [efloraofindia:156067] Succulent For ID : BBC Show,Mumbai : 150513 : AK-3

2013-05-27 Thread J.M. Garg
A reply:
You can see it is one of the aizoaceae JM,
But that is as close as I can get.
God Bless and Good Growing,
Dan Rhoads - Lincoln, NE - USDA Zone 5b
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 Picture taken at the BBC Show in MNP, Mumbai on 30/3/13.
 Cultivated, potted plant.
 Id please.
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Re: [efloraofindia:156068] Asteraceae Fortnight Part I-Radiate Heads: Anaphalis 7 for id from VOF- NS 99

2013-05-27 Thread J.M. Garg
A reply:
It looks me like Anaphalis contorta.
Krishan Lal


On 26 May 2013 13:16, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
 Keys at 
 Anaphalishttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/anaphalis



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 One more Anaphalis...a confusing state for me, if anyone can help
 identify..my guesses are leading me to nothing..

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Re: [efloraofindia:156072] Succulent For ID : BBC Show,Mumbai : 150513 : AK-3

2013-05-27 Thread Aarti S. Khale
Thanks

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:07 PM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 A reply:
 You can see it is one of the aizoaceae JM,
 But that is as close as I can get.
 God Bless and Good Growing,
 Dan Rhoads - Lincoln, NE - USDA Zone 5b
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/28142589@N00/sets/;



 On 15 May 2013 21:49, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Picture taken at the BBC Show in MNP, Mumbai on 30/3/13.
 Cultivated, potted plant.
 Id please.
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Re: [efloraofindia:156073] Gazania ? Arctotis ?

2013-05-27 Thread surajit koley
Thank you Sir, i am adding this thread to the
keyhttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/RPeciQeLPbY/qZleDRHnamEJ.
Garg Sir, thank you.

Regards,
surajit


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Surajit ji
 The telling difference between Gazania and Arctotis is the outer involucre
 bracts which form a tube in Gazania whereas they are usually free or
 slightly united at base only.

 As for three species of Gazania under discussion, they are described under
 two different species in both books by Bailey.
 Bailey (Manual of cultivated Plants) described B. longiscapa DC.,
 considered as synonym of G. linearis (Thunb.) Druce in Hortus third as well
 as in Plant List.

 Similarly G. splendens Moore is considered as synonym of G. ringens R. Br.
 in both books by Bailey and the Plant List.

 G. ringens: stem distinct, with 15-30 cm long ascending branches; heads
 6-8 cm across, on 10-15 cm long
   peduncles; teeth of involucre much shorter than tube,
 linear and acute; leaf margin not revolute.
 G. linearis: Stem absent or very short; heads 4-7 cm across on up to 35 cm
 long scapes; teeth of involucre
  as long as or linger than tube, linear-subulate and very
 finely pointed; leaf-margins mostly revolute..



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  Forwarding again for any assistance in the matter please.


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com
 Date: 22 May 2013 20:29
 Subject: [efloraofindia:155691] Gazania ? Arctotis ?
 To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 Dear Friends,

 This is in connection with the posts -

1.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/Nh8yiwEcKts/iIJUSKrHcjYJ
2.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/CZXJ_z24m-w/kTdZ3ycO93MJ

 I have already placed my queries in those above mentioned posts. You
 might have noticed it too.

 *Gazania*
 *
 *
 Let's assume the above two linked plants are *Gazania*. The Plant List
 has several species from the genera. My concern is only two, because all i
 could gather some info is based on the following two species -

 *Gazania linearis* (Thunb.) Druce
 *Gazania rigens* (L.) Gaertn.


- typically forming a rosette of 
 foliagehttp://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/gardens-gardening/your-garden/plant-finder/plant-details/kc/b329/gazania-linearis-colorado-gold.aspx=
*Gazania linearis* (Thunb.) Druce
- a tender perennial that features decumbent stems that spread along
the 
 groundhttp://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/gardens-gardening/your-garden/plant-finder/plant-details/kc/a517/gazania-rigens.aspx=
*Gazania rigens* (L.) Gaertn.
- cauline leaves can be 
 foundhttp://plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=456173=
*Gazania rigens* 
 Moenchhttp://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/gcc-127662= please note the 
 synonyms
and/or basionym http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/gcc-43626(do i 
 sound expert? he he he!)
- leaves can be lobed in both the species -
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=57368flora_id=1
 and http://www.kew.org/plants-fungi/Gazania-linearis.htm
- glabrous (not hairy) on the upper surface, but the undersides are
thickly covered with soft, white 
 hairshttp://www.kew.org/plants-fungi/Gazania-linearis.htm,
except around the midrib = *Gazania linearis* (Thunb.) Druce = you
can see this feature in at least two images in my post
- ray florets with dark abaxial 
 stripehttp://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1taxon_id=250066797=
*Gazania linearis* (Thunb.) Druce = you can see the feature in one of
my images
- central dark spots and patches in ray florets = *Gazania linearis* 
 (Thunb.)
Druce = 1) http://florabase.dec.wa.gov.au/browse/profile/16311 2)

 http://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/03030800-0b07-490a-8d04-0605030c0f01/media/Html/Gazania_linearis.htm
 3) http://www.kew.org/plants-fungi/Gazania-linearis.htm
- *Gazania rigens* (L.) Gaertn. -

 http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/gardens-gardening/your-garden/plant-finder/plant-details/kc/a517/gazania-rigens.aspx


 *Arctotis fastuosa* Jacquin


1. http://plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=80906
2.
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1taxon_id=250066098


 Please, gift me your views.

 Thank you
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[efloraofindia:156074] Re: KEY to Genera

2013-05-27 Thread surajit koley
   - *Gazania* (*linearis*  *rigens* + difference with *Arctotis*) -
   https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/6_Nef_VKkpA/cJKWtwfKQwgJ




On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 11:02 PM, surajit koley 
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:


- *Bauhinia* (*blakeana / purpurea / variegata*) -
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/XIp9z4j4Bwc/discussion

 will be cont'd .




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Re: [efloraofindia:156075] Re: ForID 260513GK

2013-05-27 Thread Satish Phadke
Yes *Calycopteris floribunda*


Dr Satish Phadke


On 26 May 2013 12:48, harithasandhya harithasand...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I think these flowers do not belong to the tree but are the flowers of the
 climbing shrub
  *Calycopteris floribunda, *Family: Combretaceace.

 Regards,
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[efloraofindia:156079] 39th Tree Appreciation Walk on 2nd June,13 at Colaba Woods, Mumbai

2013-05-27 Thread renee vyas Vyas
 Dear Friends,


Our next Tree Appreciation Walk is on 2nd June,13 in Colaba Woods Garden
and the details are as under

Venue:  Colaba Woods, Near Hotel President, Capt. Prakash Pethe Marg, Cuffe
Parade, Mumbai 45.



Time:  7.30 a.m.

Duration of walk:  2 hours

Meeting Point:  At the entrance (near the clock)..there is no entrance
fees.



Colaba Woods is a small botanical garden maintained by Tata Power Ltd.  It
has groves of  Saptaparni, Amaltas, Kadam, African Tulip, Bibla, Jangli
Badam. Michelia champaka, Cassia fistula, Markhamia lutes, Bauhinia
tomentosa are flowering profusely.


Hope to see you all on Sunday,


Cheers,


TAW Team

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Re: [efloraofindia:156081] Requesting ID of this Barleria species - Mumbai 27052013 : ARK-02

2013-05-27 Thread vipl...@gmail.com
*Barleria prionitis*, a plant with a wide range of medicinal / healing
properties.

Best wishes, Viplav

2013/5/27 Alka Khare alka...@gmail.com

 Hello friends

 Requesting ID of this Barleria species cultivated in a Mumbai garden
 captured in April 2013.

 Thanks and Regards
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[efloraofindia:156084] Re: Requesting ID of this Barleria species - Mumbai 27052013 : ARK-02

2013-05-27 Thread Alka Khare
Thank you Viplav ji for the prompt reply...

Thanks and Regards
Alka Khare

On Monday, May 27, 2013 10:10:34 PM UTC+5:30, Alka Khare wrote:

 Hello friends

 Requesting ID of this Barleria species cultivated in a Mumbai garden 
 captured in April 2013.

 Thanks and Regards
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Re: [efloraofindia:156086] Pisonia alba flowering in Mumbai

2013-05-27 Thread Nidhan Singh
Thanks Viplav Ji for sharing these uncommon pics with interesting
information...


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:20 PM, vipl...@gmail.com vipl...@gmail.comwrote:


 An uncommon instance of *Pisonia alba* in flower. It is a very popular
 ornamental in Mumbai but is seldom seen flowering / fruiting. Clicked today
 morning in a traffic island in South Mumbai.

 It is intriguing to note that G. Carstensen, the Danish superintendent of
 the Victoria Gardens in Mumbai, remarked upon the distinctive appeal of
 this tree way back in 1890. In a meeting of the Bombay Natural History
 Society on 3rd December 1890, he gave a talk on the gardens of Bombay and
 had some flattering things to say about this tree:

 The most striking tree of our gardens is perhaps the Lettuce-tree (*Pisonia
 alba*), which cannot fail to attract attention by the splendid effect of
 its bright yellow foliage, nowhere I believe so perfectly developed as in
 Bombay. - G. Carstensen, *Bombay Gardens*, p. 410, Journal of the Bombay
 Natural History Society, Vol. V, 1890.

 Best wishes, Viplav

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Re: [efloraofindia:156087] Aquilegia nivalis: a Red Listed Plant Species from Uttarakhand

2013-05-27 Thread Nidhan Singh
Lovely sharing Rawat Ji..thanks for showing such a rare and difficult
find...


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:39 PM, D.S Rawat drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.comwrote:

 This exclusively Himalayan genus (in India), *Aquilegia* (popularly known
 as Columbine) is characterized by five backward projecting spurs. Five
 species of it occur in India.

 *Aquilegia nivalis*  (Baker) Falc. ex B.D.Jacks. (Ranunculaceae) is a
 rare Himalayan Columbine species and listed in *1997 IUCN Red List of
 Threatened Plants*. It is a small perennial herb with solitary terminal
 nodding flower in alpine areas of JK, Himachal Pradesh and Uttarakhand.
 Though the Flora of India vol-I indicate its distribution only in JK and
 Himachal Pradesh, last year we recorded it first time in Valley of Flowers.

 Photographed here in Sunderdhunga Valley, Bageshwar district Uttarakhand
 at an altitude of 3900m.

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[efloraofindia:156091] Re: !!! internet is full of confusion !!! books may also !!!

2013-05-27 Thread surajit koley
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:41 AM, surajit koley 
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 message forwarded

 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Surajit,

 The ongoing thread has become very long and a bit confusing therefore
 this direct e-mail to you (not via efi).

 Please let me know if my understanding is correct:

 This plant  is a shrub, which has compound pinnate (bipinnate /
 tripinnate) leaves.
 On under surface of leaves there are no circular discs and there is
 pubescence (hairiness) - is this stiff (strigose) or soft (pilose)?
 Inflorescence type - is it a compound umbel or another?

 Regarding flower is the staminal tube entire or notched? - cannot make
 out from your images.
 My flower (attached) has a notched staminal tube.

 What about bracts / involucre?
 Is 5ft_P10305021 image of your plant? - may 19 post

 P1030881.jpg - whats this? and is it image from same plant?

 Am attaching two image of what I feel is L.compactiflora for you to
 compare with your flower and leaf (under surface).

 Lastly, how does one get to the page where you can view e-mail and
 mailing details (sm01.jpg)

 Ragards,

 Samir Mehta




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[efloraofindia:156092] !!! internet is full of confusion !!! books may also !!!

2013-05-27 Thread surajit koley
message forwarded

-- Forwarded message --
From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: Leea sp.
To: Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com


Sir,

I think the plant in this thread, and the one in
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/n2iG0-D0TAw/nVFoPplDE3EJ,
again the 3rd one -
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/czJK6AzcfAg/FmW2jUa6AQMJ are
all *L. aequata* L.

There are somewhat clear flower pictures in the link above that show
notched staminal tube.

The leaves in my species are 2-pinnate.

I think pictures P1030883 and P1030889original in today's upload show
abaxial discs.

The bracts of *Leea* i think are not present in all species or
inconspicuous in some species. When present they will be present around
individual flowers.

P1030881 pic is of the stipule, that can be seen in the other two posts too.

5ft_P1030521 pic in this thread is part of the same stipule, wherefrom the
peduncle emerges. I think this is what sometimes FoC refers as involucre.

The whole plant in all my threads is hairy, more or less scabrous. Both the
abaxial and adaxial surface of leaves are scabrous.


Your leaf does not show any discs. So, it cannot be *L. aequata* L. I don't
know which species it is.

Thank you

Good night

Regards,
surajit


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Surajit,

 The ongoing thread has become very long and a bit confusing therefore this
 direct e-mail to you (not via efi).

 Please let me know if my understanding is correct:

 This plant  is a shrub, which has compound pinnate (bipinnate /
 tripinnate) leaves.
 On under surface of leaves there are no circular discs and there is
 pubescence (hairiness) - is this stiff (strigose) or soft (pilose)?
 Inflorescence type - is it a compound umbel or another?

 Regarding flower is the staminal tube entire or notched? - cannot make out
 from your images.
 My flower (attached) has a notched staminal tube.

 What about bracts / involucre?
 Is 5ft_P10305021 image of your plant? - may 19 post

 P1030881.jpg - whats this? and is it image from same plant?

 Am attaching two image of what I feel is L.compactiflora for you to
 compare with your flower and leaf (under surface).

 Lastly, how does one get to the page where you can view e-mail and mailing
 details (sm01.jpg)

 Ragards,

 Samir Mehta


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[efloraofindia:156093] !!! internet is full of confusion !!! books may also !!!

2013-05-27 Thread surajit koley
Dear Samir Sir,

The discussion, i think, should go on in the group itself and in this very
thread.

Thank you,
Regards,
surajit


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.com wrote:

 Surajit,

 What you are calling stipule is the involucre.

 I feel this is L.compactiflora, you think it's L. aequata and others have
 still other opinions which is how a healthy group should function.

 I suggest you post a one final request calling group-members to give their
 final opinion / views on the id. If someone responds fine , if not - no
 problem. The post can be resurfaced periodically till satisfactory
 resolution.

 Regards,

 Samir Mehta





 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:40 AM, surajit koley 
 surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir,

 I think the plant in this thread, and the one in
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/n2iG0-D0TAw/nVFoPplDE3EJ,
 again the 3rd one -
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/czJK6AzcfAg/FmW2jUa6AQMJ are
 all *L. aequata* L.

 There are somewhat clear flower pictures in the link above that show
 notched staminal tube.

 The leaves in my species are 2-pinnate.

 I think pictures P1030883 and P1030889original in today's upload show
 abaxial discs.

 The bracts of *Leea* i think are not present in all species or
 inconspicuous in some species. When present they will be present around
 individual flowers.

 P1030881 pic is of the stipule, that can be seen in the other two posts
 too.

 5ft_P1030521 pic in this thread is part of the same stipule, wherefrom
 the peduncle emerges. I think this is what sometimes FoC refers as
 involucre.

 The whole plant in all my threads is hairy, more or less scabrous. Both
 the abaxial and adaxial surface of leaves are scabrous.


 Your leaf does not show any discs. So, it cannot be *L. aequata* L. I
 don't know which species it is.

 Thank you

 Good night

 Regards,
 surajit


 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Samir Mehta samirmeht...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear Surajit,

 The ongoing thread has become very long and a bit confusing therefore
 this direct e-mail to you (not via efi).

 Please let me know if my understanding is correct:

 This plant  is a shrub, which has compound pinnate (bipinnate /
 tripinnate) leaves.
 On under surface of leaves there are no circular discs and there is
 pubescence (hairiness) - is this stiff (strigose) or soft (pilose)?
 Inflorescence type - is it a compound umbel or another?

 Regarding flower is the staminal tube entire or notched? - cannot make
 out from your images.
 My flower (attached) has a notched staminal tube.

 What about bracts / involucre?
 Is 5ft_P10305021 image of your plant? - may 19 post

 P1030881.jpg - whats this? and is it image from same plant?

 Am attaching two image of what I feel is L.compactiflora for you to
 compare with your flower and leaf (under surface).

 Lastly, how does one get to the page where you can view e-mail and
 mailing details (sm01.jpg)

 Ragards,

 Samir Mehta





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[efloraofindia:156095] Re: Pisonia alba flowering in Mumbai

2013-05-27 Thread Mahadeswara
Thanks Viplav ji for posting the flowers of  P.alba.Yes, it is very 
rare.This plant is very very common in Chennai also, rather very 
popular shrub / a small tree.   Most commonly used for hedges (live fence) 
alternatively with  red Acalypha, which gives a stunning effect to the 
onlookers.I have never seen it in flowering, though I was very keenly 
observing the plant in around Chennai for more than 20 years !   Though I 
knew that it would flower,  I was not fortunate enough to see the plant in 
flowering in Chennai.  Let me try out now in Mysore city.
It is called *sule sappu *in Kannada and *lachaikottei* in Tamil. The 
leaves are used for cooking  in Chennai. The leaves have medicinal 
properties too (elephantiasis).

On Monday, May 27, 2013 11:20:02 PM UTC+5:30, Viplav Gangar wrote:


 An uncommon instance of *Pisonia alba* in flower. It is a very popular 
 ornamental in Mumbai but is seldom seen flowering / fruiting. Clicked today 
 morning in a traffic island in South Mumbai.

 It is intriguing to note that G. Carstensen, the Danish superintendent of 
 the Victoria Gardens in Mumbai, remarked upon the distinctive appeal of 
 this tree way back in 1890. In a meeting of the Bombay Natural History 
 Society on 3rd December 1890, he gave a talk on the gardens of Bombay and 
 had some flattering things to say about this tree:

 The most striking tree of our gardens is perhaps the Lettuce-tree (*Pisonia 
 alba*), which cannot fail to attract attention by the splendid effect of 
 its bright yellow foliage, nowhere I believe so perfectly developed as in 
 Bombay. - G. Carstensen, *Bombay Gardens*, p. 410, Journal of the Bombay 
 Natural History Society, Vol. V, 1890.

 Best wishes, Viplav



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