RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 17:44:45 (+1200), Chris Cameron wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? According to the original author of CVS, merging was ONE OF SIX advantages of CVS, not THE advantage! You missed the point, again, Chris! While the ability to

Re: (no subject)

2001-07-13 Thread Harald Kucharek
Larry Jones wrote: Becker Thomas writes: unsubscribe info-cvs [EMAIL PROTECTED] No one on the list can do that. You can, however, do it yourself. As it says in the headers of every list message: List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs,

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Paul Sander
--- Forwarded mail from Greg Woods: [ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 11:06:30 (+1000), Sven Dowideit wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? Greg - what is wrong with providing extra support for non-mergable files? There wouldn't be any problem if you could do it

Re: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Paul Sander
--- Forwarded mail from Greg Woods [ On Thursday, July 12, 2001 at 18:16:29 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] Subject: Re: How well does CVS handle other types of data? Every type of file is mergeable; trivially, the merge can be complete replacement. In other words, a viable merge algorithm is

is this right?

2001-07-13 Thread Nitin . DESHMUKH
Somebody help...? Is this the right way to rename a jpeg file? $ mv old new $ cvs remove old $ cvs add new $ cvs commit -m Renamed old to new old new ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs

Re: Free CVS hosting

2001-07-13 Thread Matthew Riechers
Shaikh, Mehmood wrote: I'm developing an application with a friend who is geographically located 1000 miles from me. We dont have resources at the moment to hava a dial-in CVS server, etc. So, i was looking to see if someone would host CVS server for me (for free of course) or provide a

Re: is this right?

2001-07-13 Thread Matthew Riechers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody help...? Is this the right way to rename a jpeg file? $ mv old new $ cvs remove old $ cvs add new $ cvs commit -m Renamed old to new old new 'cvs add new' should be 'cvs add -kb new' (for a jpeg). -Matt

Re: Windows2000

2001-07-13 Thread Matthew Riechers
Meier, Sven wrote: Hello, is CVS also available for Windows2000? The client should work ok, but I'm not sure about the server. See http://www.cvsnt.org/ for details about the windows-based cvs server. -Matt ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL

Re: CVS update

2001-07-13 Thread Matthew Riechers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, is there a possibility to check out/update all files that were up-to-date at a certain point in time? cvs [co|up] -D date ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs

Re: Need to Fix Import

2001-07-13 Thread Noel L Yap
Recover from backup. Make sure noone has made any changes since the backup. Noel |+- || | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || ytheon.com | || | ||

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Thornley, David
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [ On Thursday, July 12, 2001 at 16:53:53 (-0500), Thornley, David wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? Except that I'm not banging my head against the wall, and it doesn't

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Noel L Yap
CVS is not, by itself, a configuration management system any more than it is a build system. It does have several very important features that allow it to facilitate CM though... Yes, but it is a version control system. That's what wer'e talking about here. Noel This communication is for

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Gray, Ryan
What is CVS? CVS is a version control system. Using it, you can record the history of your source files. At the risk of fanning the flames here, I feel I must give my opinion that source files are

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Noel L Yap
While the ability to use CVS to do merges of branches is but one advantage of CVS, the need of CVS to do merges on a regular basis is one of the requirements it has on the data it manipulates. This situation can be avoided (not prevented) with proper procedures. Indeed as the above quoted

Re: Keeping a checked out copy via export - slightly more improvedcode

2001-07-13 Thread Jakub Narebski
I'm sending you a little more improved version of script to keep an up to date copy via autoexport from loginfo. This version tries to remove files when needed only (e.g. not trying to remove files which are added) and export files when needed only (e.g. not trying to export files which are

CVS

2001-07-13 Thread Dhotre, Shekhar
hi all, Trying to configure cvs with apache. any pointers to documents or tips .. AIX4.3.3 CVS apache .. thanks Shekhar. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs

RE: cvsadmin group problems

2001-07-13 Thread Edouard Cugni
Hi, Your configuration looks correct to me. To see which groups you are actually a member of use the 'id' command. You should get a list of your uid, gid(s) and their names. Thanks to give me the idea of looking more carefully to the actual group settings, the problems comes from here.

Re: -t/-f in cvswrappers

2001-07-13 Thread DAve Goodrich
Just to finish up, I hate leaving posts unfinished having searched archives myself to find no answer at the end ;^). Much thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry Jones, Jerry Nairn. After rereading !!Current Documentation!! and changing some procedures we have been running fine and made it through a

Re: CVS

2001-07-13 Thread Matthew Riechers
Dhotre, Shekhar wrote: hi all, Trying to configure cvs with apache. any pointers to documents or tips .. AIX4.3.3 CVS apache .. thanks Shekhar. If all you need is a read-only web front-end, try http://viewcvs.sourceforge.net. Otherwise, what are you trying to do? -Matt

Connection timed out

2001-07-13 Thread Federico Vaca
Hello : We are using CVS SERVER in a RetHat 6.2, and WinCVS 1.2 like Client... When I tried to connect to cvs server from command prompt : D:\cvs -d :pserver:cvs_fv@maximus:/home/cvs/test login Logging in to [EMAIL PROTECTED] CVS password: cvs [login aborted] connect to 192.168.1.190:2401

cvs commitinfo problem

2001-07-13 Thread Warren Moore
Hi all, I'm writing a script for commitinfo to execute that checks that all commited text files go into the repository in Unix line-feed format (test with 'file', convert with 'dos2unix'). Now the script gets run fine by commitinfo, and gets the directory and commited filenames fine, however I

Re: is this right?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 17:18:54 (+0530), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ] Subject: is this right? Somebody help...? Is this the right way to rename a jpeg file? $ mv old new $ cvs remove old $ cvs add new $ cvs commit -m Renamed old to new old new That's the best way, yes. --

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 08:39:09 (-0500), Cameron, Steve wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? On the issue of whether storing binary files in CVS is a good idea, vs. trying to use something else in conjuction with CVS, my experience has been that putting

Two CVS questions

2001-07-13 Thread Frank Gilmurray
Our CVS repository lives on a Network Appliance F840 (running 6.1R1) and we access it via NFS v2. Occasionally we get errors like the following: Checking in design_review.tex; /sweng/CVS/src/doc/design_review.tex,v -- design_review.tex new revision: 1.6; previous revision: 1.5 cvs [commit

Re: CVS

2001-07-13 Thread Gianni Mariani
You mean this: http://www.sub.nu/mod_cvs/ ? Dhotre, Shekhar wrote: hi all, Trying to configure cvs with apache. any pointers to documents or tips .. AIX4.3.3 CVS apache .. thanks Shekhar. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Noel L Yap
That's a moot point Steve. If your build system (makefiles, scripts, source to tools, etc.) is also checked in to your CVS tree then it will be tagged and you can cvs checkout; make and you'll still ``get _everything_'' but you won't have *any* problems with binary files in CVS! That's right.

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 09:25:58 (-0500), Thornley, David wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? Because, so far, nobody's shown me how to make my problems, such as they are, easier to manage than if I just use CVS. Well, that might just be because you

RE: Connection timed out

2001-07-13 Thread Gianni Mariani
Try to telnet to port 2401 . It may be that port 2401 packets are being filtered. You could use the rsh/ssh method to access the repository if those protocols are not filtered. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Federico Vaca Sent:

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 10:39:25 (-0400), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? I don't see how any system (let alone tools) can ever absolutely guarantee no bugs. If it can, then it might as well guarantee no security holes. Aegis doesn't

Re: cvs add question

2001-07-13 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 07:18:13PM -0500, John Lash wrote: I have extracted a directory from CVS using a non-branch label off the trunk of the source tree. cvs checkout -r MYLABEL foo I want to add a file in that directory but I want to add it on a branch (MYBRANCH). The usual way

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 00:13:15 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? Whenever a merge is required, check if the -kb keyword expansion flag is applicable. If it is (via command line, .cvsrc, or RCS file, in that order), use an

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Noel L Yap
Aegis doesn't guarantee no bugs. It simply requires a new test for every change and re-runs all the old tests, as well as the new test, on the submitted new code before it can become the baseline. If the rest of your process is working then no bugs will ever be re-introduced. If the change is

Re: importing vendor branches

2001-07-13 Thread Michael A. Fetterman
There's only one problem though How do you handle removal and then subsequent re-addition of a file on the vendor branch? I don't think your current script does that from what I can understand of it on one quick read How about if there were previous local changes to a removed

Re: is this right?

2001-07-13 Thread Raymund Rimando
On Friday 13 July 2001 12:54, Greg A. Woods wrote: [ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 17:18:54 (+0530), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ] Subject: is this right? Somebody help...? Is this the right way to rename a jpeg file? $ mv old new $ cvs remove old $ cvs add new $ cvs commit -m

RE: import to a branch

2001-07-13 Thread Fetterman, Michael
The quick answer is: you can't. One longer answer is: if you follow the instructions I sent out yesterday about how to do an import without affecting the mainline (see the importing vendor branches thread in this mailing list), then you can easily merge the imported files into your branch without

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Noel L Yap
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 11:00:40 (-0400), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? Indeed as the above quoted documentation hints the initial introdcution of '-kb' to RCS itself was also primarily to deal with EOL issues. But what of your

Source code formatting tools

2001-07-13 Thread DAve Goodrich
Looking into having CVS do some simple clean up of code, can anyone recommend a tool for formatting source code? I have only managed to find astyle. I'm looking to format PHP and Javascript... DAve -- Dave Goodrich Director of Interface Development Reality Based Learning Company 9521 NE

Re: is this right?

2001-07-13 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 02:06:14PM -0400, Raymund Rimando wrote: On Friday 13 July 2001 12:54, Greg A. Woods wrote: [ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 17:18:54 (+0530), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ] Is this the right way to rename a jpeg file? $ mv old new $ cvs remove old $ cvs add

Re: importing vendor branches

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 11:01:11 (-0700), Michael A. Fetterman wrote: ] Subject: Re: importing vendor branches There's no need to do anything special for these cases, as the current cvs import doesn't do anything terribly evil here. The absence of a releasetag on the vendor branch is

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Cameron, Steve
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 08:39:09 (-0500), Cameron, Steve wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? On the issue of whether storing binary files in CVS is a good idea, vs. trying to use something

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 13:58:39 (-0400), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? Then I fail to see how, as you implied, Aegis will _prevent_ bug fix branches. It doesn't prevent them. It didn't really allow them originally though. It might

Where are branches,tags etc stored

2001-07-13 Thread Anita Chacko
Hi Can anyone tell me where CVS stores information such as tag names on files,branches created etc in the repository so as to retrieve them later? Thanks a lot, Anita Chacko __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Jimmy Rimmer
Given all that you've stated below, it seems that the crux of your argument turns on the ability of a file to be mergable. In my unadorned, pooh-like brain, I ask the simple (and rhetorical) question, why? Why can't I have a simple switch which tells CVS that for this file or this

Re: pvcs to cvs and magic branches

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 13:36:39 (-0400), Eric Siegerman wrote: ] Subject: Re: pvcs to cvs and magic branches But then, why expend all this extra effort to do something counter to CVS's documented design, just because you ought to be able to get away with it? The conversion script

Re: is this right?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 14:06:14 (-0400), Raymund Rimando wrote: ] Subject: Re: is this right? Is this also applicable to directory names? Nope. CVS doesn't manage directories -- only the files within them. In CVS directories are just nebulous bits of scaffolding that appear and

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 14:02:27 (-0400), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? You still have to plan your use carefully, but at least with plain RCS you're less likely to get trapped into trying to automate your merges. (and of course rcsdiff

Re: Correct options for export

2001-07-13 Thread Ingolf Steinbach
On Thursday, 12. July 2001 23:45, Eric Siegerman wrote: Better would be to add an f suboption to -k: - -kv would be changed as we're discussing, to say override the stored keyword setting, except for 'b' - -kvf would do what -kv does now -- always overrides the stored

Re: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Dennis Jones
Come on guys...for goodness sake, give it a rest (or take it offline). I think it is safe to say that most of the subscribers of this list would rather not have all this bickering cluttering their Inbox. Agree to disagree, and leave it at that. - Dennis

Re: Where are branches,tags etc stored

2001-07-13 Thread Larry Jones
Anita Chacko writes: Can anyone tell me where CVS stores information such as tag names on files,branches created etc in the repository so as to retrieve them later? In the RCS files in the repository. -Larry Jones Please tell me I'm adopted. -- Calvin

Re: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 11:47:27 (-0700), Mike Castle wrote: ] Subject: Re: How well does CVS handle other types of data? And it is one that cvs supports VERY well. Why should I have to have two solutions for the same problem of working remotely? cvs and scp or rsync would work

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 12:19:09 (-0700), Jimmy Rimmer wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? Or, you could just use the patch for reserved checkouts: http://www.cvshome.org/cyclic/cvs/dev-reserve.html No, you can't. That does nothing for branches and

Re: Where are branches,tags etc stored

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 12:31:30 (-0700), Anita Chacko wrote: ] Subject: Where are branches,tags etc stored Can anyone tell me where CVS stores information such as tag names on files,branches created etc in the repository so as to retrieve them later? Right in every ,v file in the

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 14:20:07 (-0500), Cameron, Steve wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? Re-reading my original message, I see I failed to mention those binary files were 3rd party object code for which we do not have access to the source code, yet

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 16:30:29 (-0400), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? OK, we're getting somewhere. Why not make it preventable (eg via a flag and/or when -kb is used and/or a RCS state and/or some other mechanism)? I don't see how

intermittent rsh 'connection refused'

2001-07-13 Thread Lucas Bergman
Hi -- I have a repository that is accessed via rsh on my company's local net, which we've been using for about 9 months. Once in a while, though, access is suddenly cut off. One does 'cvs update', and after no output for around thirty seconds, one finally gets error messages:

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 16:54:08 (-0500), Cameron, Steve wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? The point of it is that it works as-is for me today. I avoid the effort of thinking up, (or copying), implementing, testing, backing up, etc. some other method

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 14:57:41 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? How so? By giving the hint as stated in the proposal, the user has specified the desired result. Whether the desired result is the same as the correct result is

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Re: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Paul Sander
--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 16:40:47 (-0400), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: How well does CVS handle other types of data? I think this is only partially true. Since CVS doesn't currently absolutely know whether there are any remaining

Re: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Mike Castle
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 04:03:09PM -0400, Greg A. Woods wrote: [ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 11:47:27 (-0700), Mike Castle wrote: ] presenting two versions of the files in question to the user. Currently CVS does not present to versions of the file to the user. Yes it does. I tested it

Re: intermittent rsh 'connection refused'

2001-07-13 Thread Larry Jones
Lucas Bergman writes: I have a repository that is accessed via rsh on my company's local net, which we've been using for about 9 months. Once in a while, though, access is suddenly cut off. One does 'cvs update', and after no output for around thirty seconds, one finally gets error

Re: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Paul Sander
--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 12:39:29 (-0400), Steven Rosenstein wrote: ] Subject: Re: How well does CVS handle other types of data? Given all that you've stated below, it seems that the crux of your argument turns on the ability of a file to be

RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data?

2001-07-13 Thread Paul Sander
--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ On Friday, July 13, 2001 at 14:57:41 (-0700), Paul Sander wrote: ] Subject: RE: How well does CVS handle other types of data? How so? By giving the hint as stated in the proposal, the user has specified the desired result. Whether the desired