Re: Countering the usual diatribe against binary files, was cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-09 Thread Kaz Kylheku
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Tom Copeland wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 16:00, Greg A. Woods wrote: I can import gigabytes and terabytes of binaries into CVS too, but no matter how much I try I'll never be able to use branches meaningfully in such a repository, Hm. Do CVS branches not work right

Re: Countering the usual diatribe against binary files, was cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-09 Thread Tom Copeland
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 12:12, Kaz Kylheku wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Tom Copeland wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 16:00, Greg A. Woods wrote: I can import gigabytes and terabytes of binaries into CVS too, but no matter how much I try I'll never be able to use branches meaningfully in such

Re: Countering the usual diatribe against binary files, was cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-09 Thread Kaz Kylheku
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Tom Copeland wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 12:12, Kaz Kylheku wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Tom Copeland wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 16:00, Greg A. Woods wrote: I can import gigabytes and terabytes of binaries into CVS too, but no matter how much I try I'll never be

Re: Countering the usual diatribe against binary files, was cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-09 Thread Tom Copeland
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 13:06, Kaz Kylheku wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Tom Copeland wrote: Right... although in the case of 3rd party libraries, the line gets a bit blurry. If my project depends on, say, BCEL, I think it's reasonable for me to check the BCEL jar file into my module/lib

Re: Countering the usual diatribe against binary files, was Re: cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-09 Thread Tom Copeland
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 14:53, Greg A. Woods wrote: [ On Tuesday, September 9, 2003 at 10:10:46 (-0400), Tom Copeland wrote: ] Subject: Re: Countering the usual diatribe against binary files, was Re:cvs diff, proposal for change Hm. Do CVS branches not work right with binary files

Re: Countering the usual diatribe against binary files, was cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-09 Thread Paul Sander
--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 12:12, Kaz Kylheku wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Tom Copeland wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 16:00, Greg A. Woods wrote: I can import gigabytes and terabytes of binaries into CVS too, but no matter how much I try I'll never be

Re: Countering the usual diatribe against binary files, was Re: cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-09 Thread david
On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 14:53, Greg A. Woods wrote: [ On Tuesday, September 9, 2003 at 10:10:46 (-0400), Tom Copeland wrote: ] Subject: Re: Countering the usual diatribe against binary files, was Re: cvs diff, proposal for change Hm. Do CVS branches not work right with binary files

Re: Countering the usual diatribe against binary files, was cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-09 Thread Paul Sander
--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Tom Copeland wrote: On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 12:12, Kaz Kylheku wrote: On Tue, 9 Sep 2003, Tom Copeland wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 16:00, Greg A. Woods wrote: I can import gigabytes and terabytes of binaries into CVS too, but

Re: cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-08 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, September 8, 2003 at 12:46:45 (+1000), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ] Subject: Re: cvs diff, proposal for change But reading the above I'm wondering whether there's some other danger that we're unaware of, that would make us change our current methods. As far as I know

Countering the usual diatribe against binary files, was Re: cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-08 Thread David Clunie
Greg A. Woods wrote: 1. keep your binary files in a separate manually managed archive. ... CVS supports binary files?!?!?!? No, I don't think so. The '-kb' sticky flag is just a terribly bad hack that gets more people into more trouble with CVS than you could ever imagine because it gets

Re: cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-07 Thread luke . kendall
On 5 Sep, Greg A. Woods wrote: cvs already supports binary files to the extent of offering -kb. CVS supports binary files?!?!?!? No, I don't think so. The '-kb' sticky flag is just a terribly bad hack that gets more people into more trouble with CVS than you could ever

Re: cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-05 Thread luke . kendall
On 3 Sep, Terrence Enger wrote: (*) cvs diff and cvs rdiff accept optional arguments --filter1=programname, --filter2=programname, --filter-both=programname. Allow Unix-style pipelining of simple commands to extend diff functionality? Excellent idea! luke

Re: slow list? [Was: Re: cvs diff, proposal for change]

2003-09-05 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, September 4, 2003 at 18:24:51 (+0200), Andreas Klauer wrote: ] Subject: slow list? [Was: Re: cvs diff, proposal for change] Is it just me or is the mailing list extremely slow? Unless you've been living under a rock for the past month you'll know that there's another major rash

Re: cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-05 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, September 4, 2003 at 18:25:43 (-0400), Terrence Enger wrote: ] Subject: Re: cvs diff, proposal for change I would not dream of suggesting a change to that. Nor do I suggest changing anything in the repository, or even in a sandbox. Properly doing what you suggest requires

cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-04 Thread Terrence Enger
Greetings, all. I keep seeing questions and comments in the list about cvs diff, especially about how it is not useful for files holding data other than plain text. I see even Andreas Klauer's recent question normalizing files and old revisions

cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-04 Thread Terrence Enger
This is my second attempt to post this question. The first has not appeared on the list; neither have I received a bounce message. Please accept my apology if you receive it twice. Greetings, all. I keep seeing questions and comments in the list about cvs diff, especially about how it is not

slow list? [Was: Re: cvs diff, proposal for change]

2003-09-04 Thread Andreas Klauer
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 21:16, Terrence Enger wrote: This is my second attempt to post this question. The first has not appeared on the list; neither have I received a bounce message. Please accept my apology if you receive it twice. Is it just me or is the mailing list extremely

Re: cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-04 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Wednesday, September 3, 2003 at 13:07:52 (-0400), Terrence Enger wrote: ] Subject: cvs diff, proposal for change In general, the concensus of those in the know has been negative: cvs diff is so far from working with arbitrary files that it is not even worth thinking about changing

Re: cvs diff, proposal for change

2003-09-04 Thread Paul Sander
The CVS design is not so married to the diff program that it could not be swapped out at a low level for more appropriate tools. (Keep in mind that somewhere in the CVS implementation it effectively invokes a diff or diff3 command. That command could really be anything, as long as it's