Re: [Inkscape-translator] Release Fields made Translatable

2017-08-12 Thread Sylvain Chiron
Le 12/08/2017 à 01:49, Maren Hachmann a écrit :
> Would it be possible to make the following usability improvements in a
> later iteration?
> 
> - Show more than one string/platform that needs to be translated
> - Don't show anything that isn't required for translation
> - Put them next to each other for translators (English + translator's
> language, ideally)
> 
> It is now possible that translators can change the release *package
> files*. Is this intentional?
> 
> Maren
> 
> Am 11.08.2017 um 23:41 schrieb Martin Owens:
>> I've updated the permissions for all translators, can you access them now?

Yes, I can! Thank you. I also see new submenus ‘Edit Release…’, etc. in
menus that were previously empty.

I agree with Maren that the interface is quite heavy and disturbing for
translators. There are many, many items (that you must load one by one),
Releases take time to load, and quite few Release platforms need a
translation. For a straightforward work, we should have a reduced form
for Releases and forms to translate directly many strings for Platforms
and Release platforms. It looks quite hard to dive in it to make the
translations currently.

Other notes:
* The ‘code name’ of releases is useless as we don’t have a code name,
but three versions had it set to the version number, so the version
number was displayed twice in the download page’s . I’ve removed
the code name for 0.92.2, but if I also do it for 0.92.2pre0 and
0.92.1pre1, it shows the prereleases without you have to click on ‘Show
more…’ on the Download page.
* I’ve touched the CSS of Release Notes (to have a line-height of 1.5 as
it is on the website’s other pages) and marked some strings for translation.
* I’ve copied the wiki’s rendered HTML (with a few modifications for
images) for some Release notes, and I have wonders about the structure
to use as an introduction (because 0.92 did not have an introduction…).
Should we put the Release date in the text? It is stored in a special
field, so ideally it could be written automatically by the app.

Best regards,
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Re: [Inkscape-translator] Website/Wiki/News outlets: Updates for 0.92.2 (not released yet!)

2017-08-12 Thread Maren Hachmann
Hi again,

seems I'm not going to get an answer any time soon.

But you can do the following:

1. Visit https://inkscape.org/en/admin/cms/page/
2. Click on the 'Page settings' icon in the row for 'Download (old)'
3. Select the tab for your language
4. Change the slug (e.g. by appending _old, or _obsolete) and save.
5. Go back to https://inkscape.org/en/admin/cms/page/
6. Click on the Page settings icon in the row for 'Download'
7. Select the tab for your language (note: it is not highlighted in any
way when selected, make doubly sure you've got the right one)
8. Enter a title and slug (probably those that were displayed in step 4,
that's why they had to be changed), save.
9. Go to advanced settings.
10. Enter 'releases' into the URL overwrite field and save.

Only ten steps... :-/ Took me some trial and error to figure that out,
hope the webmaster won't disagree with the way it's done.

Don't copy from the English page's settings this time.

I have no clue why that one works at all ('release' is not in the urls
for the project, only 'releases' is), but perhaps there's some redirect
hidden somewhere.

Kind Regards,
 Maren

Am 09.08.2017 um 18:58 schrieb Maren Hachmann:
> Hi Sylvain,
> 
> no, it's just a temporary thing. Martin has put in some redirects, but
> the old pages are still in their old location, and I'm hoping they'll be
> moved to a different place, so we can make a proper, new redirect with
> our own languages, and the old outdated pages can no longer be reached
> by following old, outdated links on other websites.
> 
> Meanwhile, I've just updated all shields to contain the new version
> number and to lead directly to the new releases page.
> 
> (so: wait a bit, it's going to be cleared up, and I'll send out a
> message when I know)
> 
> Kind Regards,
>  Maren
> 
> Am 09.08.2017 um 14:59 schrieb Sylvain Chiron:
>> Hi Maren,
>>
>> The Download pages have been replaced by the Release page, but it is not
>> translated. Even the ‘Download’ menu is English on the French front
>> page. Is this the expected behavior?
>>
>> Sylvain
>>
>> Le 08/08/2017 à 00:34, Maren Hachmann a écrit :
>>> Dear Translators,
>>>
>>> for the pending release of Inkscape 0.92.2, there are already a couple
>>> of texts available for us to work on:
>>>
>>> Website
>>> 
>>>
>>> On the website, the news article can already be translated at:
>>> https://inkscape.org/en/news/unpublished/833/
>>> (when the article is published, you can also access it from the
>>> inkscape.org front page).
>>> Clicking on Save will not publish the translation, when the original
>>> isn't published yet.
>>> When the English version is then published, any existing translations
>>> will be published, too.
>>>
>>> Website CMS pages will probably also require adaptation, unless the
>>> releases app is ready for the release (I'm not sure here, but currently
>>> it looks more like we'll need to work on the CMS pages, just like last
>>> time).
>>>
>>> Wiki
>>> 
>>>
>>> And we've also got some release notes for 0.92.2 in the Wiki:
>>> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.92.2
>>> Translating these is some work, but it's also very interesting, if you
>>> want to know more details about all the progress that has been made (and
>>> why you should update to 0.92.2 when it's out!)
>>>
>>> Please send a message to this mailing list or to me directly if you
>>> would like to get access to the Wiki or to the Website News, to help
>>> with the tasks.
>>>
>>> News spreading
>>> --
>>>
>>> If you can help with spreading the news in your language, please visit:
>>> https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-vectors/press/issues/1
>>> to see if there are already news outlets on the list for your language,
>>> and add a comment, to claim one or more of the to-do items.
>>>
>>> If you know of one that is missing in the list, please comment on the
>>> issue, give a link and a way how to contact the corresponding outlet.
>>>
>>> IMPORTANT: Please do NOT post or publish any news anywhere just yet,
>>> Inkscape 0.92.2 hasn't been released yet! Wait for the official
>>> announcements on the user or development mailing lists!
>>>
>>> Btw. did you see the new icon for website translators team here:
>>> https://inkscape.org/en/teams/ ?
>>> It was made by Tim Jones (https://inkscape.org/en/~TimJones) who
>>> designed a set of beautiful headgear icons for the listed teams.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much everyone + happy translating!
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>  Maren
>>>
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