Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-herbert-net2hostsig-00.txt

2023-10-23 Thread Linda Dunbar
Tom, I find your draft very interesting. I have a couple of questions: - what kind of applications are capable of sending signals/requests to the network? - Section 2.3 Network Services: do you see UE sending signals to the network? Or should it be the Application Controller notify

[Int-area] FW: Comments on "per-app networking considerations" draft

2021-07-06 Thread Linda Dunbar
with their specific controllers for the types of services they need. Then the Controller exchange with the network. Linda Dunbar From: Int-area mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Sørensen, Frode Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2021 12:54 AM To: int-area@ietf.org<mailto:int-area@ietf.org

Re: [Int-area] The official instructions on the next step of APN

2021-02-04 Thread Linda Dunbar
omains, such as using the IPsec IKE method between controllers of the two domains to negotiate the labels used in the data plane My two cents, Linda Dunbar From: Apn On Behalf Of Pengshuping (Peng Shuping) Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 7:40 PM To: a...@ietf.org Cc: int-area@ietf.org; rt...@ietf.org S

Re: [Int-area] [Apn] A new draft on APN for your review, thank you!

2021-01-25 Thread Linda Dunbar
Shuping, Some comments to the draft-peng-apn-scope-gap-analysis-00: I find Page 4 last sentence really hit the key purpose of APN: at the headend to steer into corresponding path, at the midpoint to collect corresponding performance measurement data, and at the service function to execute

Re: [Int-area] Using BGP to advertise SD-WAN tunnels end point's private IPv6 addresses. (was registering tunnel types

2018-11-05 Thread Linda Dunbar
Fred, How does my phone (being IPv6 address) communicate with a web server that is IPv4 public address? Linda -Original Message- From: Fred Baker [mailto:fredbaker.i...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 5:42 PM To: Linda Dunbar Cc: tom petch ; Joel Jaeggli ; i...@ietf.org

Re: [Int-area] Using BGP to advertise SD-WAN tunnels end point's private IPv6 addresses. (was registering tunnel types

2018-11-05 Thread Linda Dunbar
...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2018 1:07 PM To: Linda Dunbar Cc: tom petch ; Joel Jaeggli ; i...@ietf.org; int-area@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org Subject: Re: Using BGP to advertise SD-WAN tunnels end point's private IPv6 addresses. (was registering tunnel types Linda, I see a couple of issues

[Int-area] Using BGP to advertise SD-WAN tunnels end point's private IPv6 addresses. (was registering tunnel types

2018-11-04 Thread Linda Dunbar
e IP address after the NAT. o Public Port:The Port after the NAT. Thank you very much for feedback. Linda Dunbar -Original Message- From: ipv6 [mailto:ipv6-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of tom petch Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 11:26 PM To: Joel Jaeggli Cc: i...@ietf.org Subject

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-yong-intarea-inter-sites-over-tunnels-00.txt

2016-10-31 Thread Linda Dunbar
ect > multiple network sites over IP backbone networks. We will present this in > Seoul meeting and look forward to hearing comments and suggestions on this > work. > > Thanks, > Authors > > -Original Message- > From: internet-dra...@ietf.org [mailto:inter

Re: [Int-area] Questions to draft-intarea-tunnels-03

2016-10-07 Thread Linda Dunbar
:33 AM To: Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@huawei.com> Cc: towns...@cisco.com; int-area@ietf.org Subject: Re: Questions to draft-intarea-tunnels-03 On Oct 7, 2016, at 8:15 AM, Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@huawei.com<mailto:linda.dun...@huawei.com>> wrote: Joe, You said “The egr

Re: [Int-area] Questions to draft-intarea-tunnels-03

2016-10-07 Thread Linda Dunbar
or a tunnel.” An overlay “ tunnel” described in your draft appears as one “link” from “transiting IP” (or IP routing) perspective, but it is not from MTU perspective. Linda From: Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] Sent: Friday, October 07, 2016 11:08 AM To: Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@huawei.com&

Re: [Int-area] Questions to draft-intarea-tunnels-03

2016-10-07 Thread Linda Dunbar
the Tunnel MTU is 1500, not the 2000 at the Tunnel egress node, correct? Linda From: Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 11:48 PM To: Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@huawei.com>; towns...@cisco.com Cc: int-area@ietf.org Subject: Re: Questions to draft-intarea

Re: [Int-area] Questions to draft-intarea-tunnels-03

2016-10-06 Thread Linda Dunbar
t;inner")..", is the ")" extra? Section 4.2 first sentence: " It messages might be ...", do you mean "... its messages might be..." Linda From: Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 4:10 PM To: Linda Dunbar <linda.dun...@huawei.

[Int-area] Questions to draft-intarea-tunnels-03

2016-10-06 Thread Linda Dunbar
Joe and Mark, You said "Because tunnels are links, they are subject to the same issues as any link, e.g. MTU.." The MTU issue exist between any two points in a network. The MTU issue for tunnel is more like the MTU issue between any two points in the network (i.e. traverse many links, and can

Re: [Int-area] (REVISED) Call for adoption of draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-06

2014-09-10 Thread Linda Dunbar
I support adoption of this draft. I think that this draft is very useful, especially to SFC, NVO3 WGs. Those groups are defining new encapsulation headers. MTU issues practices should be visible to the participants of those groups. Linda Dunbar -Original Message- From: Int-area

Re: [Int-area] Fragmentation and Path MTU text in nvo3 dataplane reqts draft

2014-05-16 Thread Linda Dunbar
I am confused of the math here. If most physical links MTU is 1500 bytes (or 2000 bytes for some), how do we have4GB minus the encapsulation overhead for IPv6, as the tunnel link Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU). Is 4GB correct ??? Linda -Original Message- From: Int-area

Re: [Int-area] Fragmentation and Path MTU text in nvo3 dataplane reqts draft

2014-05-16 Thread Linda Dunbar
To: Linda Dunbar; Black, David; ts...@ietf.org; tsv-a...@ietf.org Cc: Mark Townsley; int-area@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Int-area] Fragmentation and Path MTU text in nvo3 dataplane reqts draft Hi Linda, The maximum MTU for an IPv4 link is 64KB (per RFC0791) and the maximum MTU for an IPv6 link

Re: [Int-area] Fragmentation and Path MTU text in nvo3 dataplane reqts draft

2014-05-16 Thread Linda Dunbar
- From: Templin, Fred L [mailto:fred.l.temp...@boeing.com] Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:10 PM To: Linda Dunbar; Black, David; ts...@ietf.org; tsv-a...@ietf.org Cc: Mark Townsley; int-area@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Int-area] Fragmentation and Path MTU text in nvo3 dataplane reqts draft Hi Linda

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-nachum-sarp-06.txt

2013-10-03 Thread Linda Dunbar
Wes, -Original Message- [WEG] One might also argue that MS Outlook is a key component in many corporate environments, but it's false equivalence to then assume that this is because it's the best solution, rather than the truth, which is that it's the least bad alternative. At

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-nachum-sarp-06.txt

2013-10-03 Thread Linda Dunbar
Ted, -Original Message- What matters is that an observation has been made that a L2 VPN could have severe negative behavior characteristics in plausible circumstances. This is a really strong reason not to use an L2 VPN. [Linda] I understand that many people are still not

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-nachum-sarp-06.txt

2013-09-27 Thread Linda Dunbar
David, -Original Message- What this means is any non-IP E2E protocol (CFM, QCN etc.) is broken and how one would instrument and fault sectionalize this network is unclear. [Linda] The proposed proxy gateway only represents the IP applications' end hosts address by the gateway

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-nachum-sarp-06.txt

2013-09-27 Thread Linda Dunbar
. Those addresses are limited no matter how subnet is spread and how diverse servers are virtualized. Linda -Original Message- From: David Allan I [mailto:david.i.al...@ericsson.com] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:41 PM To: Linda Dunbar; Ted Lemon Cc: int-area@ietf.org Subject: RE

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-nachum-sarp-06.txt

2013-08-23 Thread Linda Dunbar
Support! This draft is about the proxy gateway to make switch's FDB not explode in DC environment where hosts in one VLAN (or subnet) can be placed anywhere. NVo3 and TRILL can hide hosts' addresses from switches/routers in the core. But If NVO3 edges (NVE) are Top of Rack switches or End of

[Int-area] comments to draft-matsushima-stateless-uplane-vepc-01

2013-08-02 Thread Linda Dunbar
I am just repeating my comments made to draft-matsushima-stateless-uplane-vepc-01 during the InterArea WG session. It seems to me that the case presented is the motivation for needing routers/switches in the network to dynamically change forwarding behavior that are triggered by external

[Int-area] any concerns of SEND mixed with Proxy Gateway described in draft-nachum-sarp-06?

2013-07-31 Thread Linda Dunbar
, this access switch's MAC table potentially has 200*4000 = 800,000 entries. Thank you very much for your feedback. Linda Dunbar ___ Int-area mailing list Int-area@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area

[Int-area] Any feedback or concern of using Proxy Gateway in NVO3 environment?

2013-07-30 Thread Linda Dunbar
NVO3 provides an overlay mechanism so that the hosts (or VMs) addresses are hidden from the switches in the core. However, for the L2 in IP case of NVO3, all the overlay edge nodes are still exposed to all the hosts MAC addresses on the VLANs that are enabled on the edges, which can cause

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-nachum-sarp-06.txt

2013-07-18 Thread Linda Dunbar
Ted, Thank you very much for the advice. We will clean up the acronyms in the next revision. Linda -Original Message- From: Ted Lemon [mailto:ted.le...@nominum.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:09 PM To: Linda Dunbar Cc: Internet Area; Suresh Krishnan; Tal Mizrahi Subject

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-nachum-sarp-05.txt

2013-07-15 Thread Linda Dunbar
Ted, Thank you very much for the suggested text. I tweaked a little bit. How about the following text added to the Introduction section? This document describes a proxy gateway technique, which is called SARP throughout this document, to reduce switches' FDB (MAC table) sizes and ARP/ND

Re: [Int-area] Working group last call for draft-ietf-intarea-flow-label-balancing-01

2013-07-11 Thread Linda Dunbar
Support. Linda From: int-area-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Qiong Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 1:20 PM To: Suresh Krishnan Cc: Internet Area Subject: Re: [Int-area] Working group last call for draft-ietf-intarea-flow-label-balancing-01 Dear all, I think

[Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for draft-nachum-sarp-05.txt

2013-07-11 Thread Linda Dunbar
traffic to some physical link segments. Hope those points are more clear. Linda -Original Message- From: internet-dra...@ietf.org [mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:13 PM To: Linda Dunbar; Youval Nachum; Ilan Yerushalmi; Tal Mizrahi Subject: New

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-00.txt

2013-06-26 Thread Linda Dunbar
: Ronald Bonica [mailto:rbon...@juniper.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:00 AM To: Linda Dunbar; Joe Touch; Carlos Pignataro (cpignata) Cc: Internet Area Subject: RE: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-bonica- intarea-gre-mtu-00.txt Linda, What do these platforms do when

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-00.txt

2013-06-25 Thread Linda Dunbar
Ron, Your draft recommends that the ingress node discards the frame and sends ICMP msg to the source node when the size of GRE encapsulated frame exceeds link MTU. We experienced that Window XP doesn't adjust frame size after receiving ICMP message. Many Linux based applications don't do

Re: [Int-area] FW: New Version Notification for draft-bonica-intarea-gre-mtu-00.txt

2013-05-30 Thread Linda Dunbar
Ron, Comments are inserted below: -Original Message- Just to be sure that we aren't talking past each other, let's ensure that we are talking about the same scenario. The GRE egress router receives complete, non-fragmented packets, containing fragmented payloads. [Linda] The

[Int-area] Comments and suggestiosn to draft-ietf-intarea-flow-label-balancing-00

2013-04-05 Thread Linda Dunbar
Label (you can describe how Flow Label improve the LB algorithms currently being deployed). Linda -Original Message- From: Sheng Jiang Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 9:04 PM To: Linda Dunbar Subject: RE: Reviewing of flow label balancing http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf

Re: [Int-area] IPv6 ND applicability in draft-nachum-sarp-03

2013-01-16 Thread Linda Dunbar
the FDB. This draft also addresses the FDB entries explosion issue. Is it clear enough? We can update the draft with this explanation. Linda -Original Message- From: int-area-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:int-area-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linda Dunbar Sent: Tuesday, November 27

Re: [Int-area] IPv6 ND applicability in draft-nachum-sarp-03

2012-11-27 Thread Linda Dunbar
to scope the ND multicast and alleviates the burden on router when subnets are spread across multiple links/ToRs. Linda -Original Message- From: Greg Daley [mailto:gda...@au.logicalis.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 6:13 PM To: Linda Dunbar; Suresh Krishnan Cc: julien.i

Re: [Int-area] IPv6 ND applicability in draft-nachum-sarp-03

2012-11-21 Thread Linda Dunbar
[mailto:suresh.krish...@ericsson.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:58 PM To: Linda Dunbar Cc: int-area@ietf.org; julien.i...@gmail.com; Tal Mizrahi Subject: Re: IPv6 ND applicability in draft-nachum-sarp-03 Hi Linda, On 11/20/2012 01:05 PM, Linda Dunbar wrote: Suresh, Are you saying

Re: [Int-area] IPv6 ND applicability in draft-nachum-sarp-03

2012-11-20 Thread Linda Dunbar
-Original Message- From: Suresh Krishnan [mailto:suresh.krish...@ericsson.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 10:48 AM To: Linda Dunbar Cc: int-area@ietf.org; julien.i...@gmail.com; Tal Mizrahi Subject: Re: IPv6 ND applicability in draft-nachum-sarp-03 Hi Linda, On 11/19/2012 07:11 PM

Re: [Int-area] IPv6 ND applicability in draft-nachum-sarp-03

2012-11-19 Thread Linda Dunbar
Suresh, -Original Message- Because it is :-). As an example, if you take an fat tree architecture, the number of access switch ports on a subnet is not directly related to the number of ports on the L3 gateway that are on the same subnet. For the following network, if one

[Int-area] can you elaborate the loops which you are concerned with draft-nachum-sarp-03?

2012-11-12 Thread Linda Dunbar
, or IS-IS) to prevent loops for Ethernet data frames which don't have TTL. The same mechanism should prevent the loops of ARP/ND frames. Can you draw a scenario on how/why the loop prevention mechanism for Ethernet data frames won't work for ARP/ND frames? Thank you very much. Linda Dunbar

[Int-area] IPv6 ND applicability in draft-nachum-sarp-03

2012-11-12 Thread Linda Dunbar
Suresh and Julien, When the draft-nachum-sarp-02 was presented at InterArea WG in 84th IETF, the feedback was that the draft needs to be updated to include the processing for IPv6. So we updated the draft to include the processing of ND for IPv6. When the revised draft (draft-nachum-sarp-03)