Re: [Int-area] [lisp] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether a WG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-20 Thread Eliot Lear
Jari, But back to the proposal. In particular, I would like to know how people feel about this work being ready for an (Experimental) IETF WG, what the scope should be, whether the charter is reasonable. And if not, what would make it so. There are reasonably stable specs that people can

Re: [Int-area] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether aWG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-21 Thread Eliot Lear
So the question - that is not administrative - boils down imho to: can we exclusively concentrate on the LISP protocol(s) specifics leaving the issue of our confidence on the Loc/ID split and associated challenges open. That question deserves imho a specific discussion that should happen in the

Re: [Int-area] Please respond: Questions from the IESG as to whether aWG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-21 Thread Eliot Lear
On 1/21/09 2:12 PM, PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri wrote: All items in the charter - see below - are exclusively oriented toward LISP protocols implementation specifics, and interworking: Right. This is a LISP WG. There is nothing stopping anyone from creating another WG, assuming the work

Re: [Int-area] [lisp] Please respond: Questions from the IESG astowhether aWG forming BOF is necessary for LISP

2009-01-21 Thread Eliot Lear
On 1/22/09 12:48 AM, PAPADIMITRIOU Dimitri wrote: Your question is: does one size (of approach) fits all and the answer is no. Indeed, these situations can not be compared (SHIM6 is a WG whereas HIP is a WG and a RG) but none did intend to address the Internet routing system scalability. It's

Re: [Int-area] Starting some discussion on renumbering

2010-11-12 Thread Eliot Lear
Brian, I am interested in participating in discussions, on or off list ;-) One comment now: On 11/11/10 8:55 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: - Should we focus entirely on IPv6? That is probably easier in several ways (new deployment for most sites, not constrained by a shortage of prefixes)

Re: [Int-area] [ietf-privacy] NAT Reveal / Host Identifiers

2014-06-09 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Stephen, On 6/7/14, 3:20 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: I'm frankly amazed that that's not crystal clear to anyone who has read all 2.5 non-boilerplate pages of the BCP. Or even just the last two words of the 1-line abstract (hint: those say where possible.) Yes, source addresses leak

Re: [Int-area] [ietf-privacy] NAT Reveal / Host Identifiers

2014-06-09 Thread Eliot Lear
/9/14, 10:10 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 10/06/2014 04:43, Ted Lemon wrote: On Jun 9, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Eliot Lear l...@cisco.com wrote: But does adding a header solve the problem? Not unless it is signed AND I believe the signature. And then I had better be willing to spend

Re: [Int-area] various approaches to dns channel secrecy

2014-07-06 Thread Eliot Lear
Paul, This seems like a fine and modular approach that doesn't boil the ocean. Eliot On 7/5/14, 5:04 AM, Paul Vixie wrote: i've now seen a number of proposals reaction to the snowden disclosures, seeking channel encryption for dns transactions. i have some thoughts on the matter which are

Re: [Int-area] various approaches to dns channel secrecy

2014-07-07 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Hannes, On 7/7/14, 8:23 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: Just a minor note on this paragraph: On 07/07/2014 06:48 AM, Eliot Lear wrote: because HTTPS currently depends on X.509 keys, other I didn't write the above, Paul did. But to your point below... groups in the IETF world are already

Re: [Int-area] various approaches to dns channel secrecy

2014-07-07 Thread Eliot Lear
On 7/7/14, 1:14 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: I also struggle to see the significant improvement for the cases that had been discussed on the list. I would say that they go close to zero when one uses DNS servers provided by the local network operator. That's a matter of service selection

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-winfaa-intarea-broadcast-consider-02

2016-09-02 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Rolf, On 9/2/16 2:38 PM, Rolf Winter wrote: > Hi Eliot, > > I though a bit more about what you said. I think the suggestions to > developers were clear in my mind but maybe aren't all that clearly > formulated. Here are the most important suggestions that I read from > the text: > > - Use

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-winfaa-intarea-broadcast-consider-02

2016-08-29 Thread Eliot Lear
Rolf, Thanks. Please see below. On 8/29/16 8:57 PM, Rolf Winter wrote: > >> What is needed are specific recommendations or even the strengthening of >> a generalized mechanism, the obvious candidate being mDNS/DNS-SD. What >> specific recommendations would the authors make when using

Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-winfaa-intarea-broadcast-consider-02

2016-08-27 Thread Eliot Lear
Juan Carlos, I like the idea of this document being published as an informational document, but I wonder if the document needs another rev or two first. While it is important to have privacy considerations for discovery protocols, this document needs to go further than that to be useful to

Re: [Int-area] I-D Action: draft-ietf-intarea-broadcast-consider-01.txt

2016-11-02 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Rolf, I apologize. I had entirely forgotten about this draft. I've put out very much a -00 of my own draft-lear-network-helps-01.txt. The key point of my draft, to expropriate from Ecclesiastes, is simply this: there is a time for sharing. But when doing so, (a) do so by design, (b) use

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-lhan-problems-requirements-satellite-net-00.txt

2021-07-08 Thread Eliot Lear
Lawful Intercept. On 08.07.21 19:52, Lin Han wrote: What does “LI” stand for? OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Int-area mailing list Int-area@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area

Re: [Int-area] Introducing IPv4 Unicast Extensions with new draft-schoen-intarea-lowest-address

2021-08-03 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Andrew, On 03.08.21 21:11, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Tue, Aug 03, 2021 at 02:43:10AM -0700, John Gilmore wrote: lowest-address draft is the first of a set of upcoming drafts that propose small, easy improvements in IPv4. I think I recalled an (int area?) meeting something like a decade

Re: [Int-area] Continuing the addressing discussion: what is an address anyway?

2022-01-24 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Dirk, On 25.01.22 08:19, Dirk Trossen wrote: Hence, I would suggest that any answers to the question above ought to be guided by what we (as users) want from the network, e.g., in terms of reachability, privacy, security, exposure of desired capabilities and possibly more. The

Re: [Int-area] Continuing the addressing discussion: what is an address anyway?

2022-01-25 Thread Eliot Lear
[copy architecture-discuss] Geoff, This is a pretty good characterization.  In fact, it's exactly where we went in the NSRG nearly 20 years ago, just after MO first kicked out 8+8.  For people's reference, we looked at naming at different levels, including at L3, in DNS, URNs (which were

Re: [Int-area] [IANA #1287329] expert review for draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis (ethernet-numbers)

2023-11-09 Thread Eliot Lear
They seem ok. Eliot On 09.11.2023 13:22, Sabrina Tanamal via RT wrote: Hi Eliot and Dan (cc: intarea wg), Can one of you review the LLDP TLV Subtype changes in this newly approved document draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis for us? Please see