Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-17 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > I do not think classic Internet tunnels (e.g. IP in IP or GRE) are a good > comparison for ILA. The ILA mapping requires dynamic knowledge about the > remote end. (One of the things that is important about ILA is

Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-17 Thread Tom Herbert
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 14/05/2017 05:42, Tom Herbert wrote: >> Hello, >> >> At the Chicago WG meeting I made a request that ILA be taken up as a >> WG item in int-area. The WG chairs and AD requested that we raise a >>

Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-17 Thread Joel M. Halpern
I do not think classic Internet tunnels (e.g. IP in IP or GRE) are a good comparison for ILA. The ILA mapping requires dynamic knowledge about the remote end. (One of the things that is important about ILA is its ability to hide dynamics.) GUE at least is proposed specifically for use in

Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-17 Thread Behcet Sarikaya
On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Tom Herbert wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Joel M. Halpern > wrote: > > If we want the documents to be informational, then it should be about a > > context where we understand how to build the surrounding

Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-16 Thread Tom Herbert
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > If we want the documents to be informational, then it should be about a > context where we understand how to build the surrounding infrastructure. > For example, if it were documented for data centers, based on

Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-16 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 14/05/2017 05:42, Tom Herbert wrote: > Hello, > > At the Chicago WG meeting I made a request that ILA be taken up as a > WG item in int-area. The WG chairs and AD requested that we raise a > discussion on the list about what else is needed to be done for ILA > (Identifier Locator Addressing

Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-16 Thread Joel M. Halpern
If we want the documents to be informational, then it should be about a context where we understand how to build the surrounding infrastructure. For example, if it were documented for data centers, based on Facebook's experience, I would have trouble objecting to informational publication.

Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-13 Thread Tom Herbert
On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 11:03 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > It appears to me that there are contexts in which it is likely that ILA is > useful. > > Using the example of the progression of LISP, I have concern with the > current approach of NOT spelling out how and where it

Re: [Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-13 Thread Joel M. Halpern
It appears to me that there are contexts in which it is likely that ILA is useful. Using the example of the progression of LISP, I have concern with the current approach of NOT spelling out how and where it would be used. LISP started out as experimental in significant part because it was not

[Int-area] ILA and int-area

2017-05-13 Thread Tom Herbert
Hello, At the Chicago WG meeting I made a request that ILA be taken up as a WG item in int-area. The WG chairs and AD requested that we raise a discussion on the list about what else is needed to be done for ILA (Identifier Locator Addressing draft-herbert-nvo3-ila-04). The question was also