Re: [Interest] Qt Location custom osm plugin and high res tiles

2019-02-19 Thread maitai
Hi, Seems to me that QGeoCameraCapabilities is a private qt API? >From what I found on the net seems it would help a lot for customizing own map plugin or tile server, but it's not clear how I can access it. Philippe Le 19-02-2019 19:40, maitai a écrit : > Thanks I'll give it a try > >

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Jason H
There's not anything I haven't done on mobile in Qt. The problem is everytime I start an app, I copy the 75% from the previous project and it's janky slap-dash of code. I've got to to this 3x for every app, every time. It's iOS, Android, and OSX. What I have works, it's not Troll quality. It is

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Jérôme Godbout
I did try a bit V-Play, but I did not like the fact I was stuck at a particular Qt version (it was 5.6 when 5.10 was out, last time I checked). Does the new Felgo allow to be used on other versoin and with up to date Qt Creator? that was a real bummer to be stuck with old version. The project

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Lorne Sturtevant
On 2019-02-19 3:22 p.m., Jason H wrote: Was just reading the blog and it mentions live reloading: https://blog.qt.io/blog/2019/02/18/scaling-large-ui-development-projects-managing-complexities-reference-ui-neptune-3/ This Neptune3 thing, is that something we can use on the phones? I've been

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Sze Howe Koh
On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 00:33, Jason H wrote: > Also, FWIW, I don't know why PySide didn't take up Riverbank's PyQt. So now > we have Mobile and Python fragmentation in Qt. They did try, but couldn't reach an agreement with Riverbank: https://wiki.qt.io/PySide_FAQ (see "What About PyQt?") PyQt

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Jason H
Was just reading the blog and it mentions live reloading: https://blog.qt.io/blog/2019/02/18/scaling-large-ui-development-projects-managing-complexities-reference-ui-neptune-3/   This Neptune3 thing, is that something we can use on the phones?   Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 at 3:40 PM

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Jason H
So I think that after all this chatter we have one really solid concrete finding:   Findings #1: Qt is based on proven, stable technologies, whereas Flutter is based on Dart, a nacent technology with a very small past and a non-transparent future.* Furthermore, Dart does not seem to be any

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Jason H
In 1992 it really, really was.    The real issue nowadays is they only have one event loop forcing generators/async code. Though WebWorkers are a thing.  Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 10:03 PM From: "Sylvain Pointeau" To: "Christoph Feck" Cc: inter...@lists.qt-project.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Jason H
I probably would have gone with Python, and avoid pointers, as many languages to their best to obfuscate them. But your C was not a bad decision. It is lingua franca. :-) Just remind them that JS was invented in 10 days back in 1992, and standardized by a committee that had no business

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Fabio Giovagnini
My two cents. The main topic is: a new language really has to give an answer to a real need. In my humble opinion when we talk about programming language, we cannot think to push artificial needs. The community of developers is not a commumitiy of fashion guys. They are professionals working to

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Sylvain Pointeau
I am personally not convinced yet about having a javascript VM. It seems to be a bottleneck. However I see the advantages it brings, but was it really necessary? Le mar. 19 févr. 2019 à 21:15, Christoph Feck a écrit : > On 02/19/19 20:47, Jason H wrote: > > What I've learned is that it's better

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Henry Skoglund
Hi, totally agree C/C++ will outlive many of these new languages. It's also most likely Javascript will wane off sooner rather than later due to WebAssembly steadily improving. Been working/programming for 43 years now, while I fondly remember Pascal on CP/M from my youth (before C++ was

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Christoph Feck
On 02/19/19 20:47, Jason H wrote: What I've learned is that it's better to stand on the shoulders of giants than to rewrite the universe from scratch. I dream of a say where we can code things and everyone else regardless of platform can run it. I thought this was going to be .Net CLR, or Java

Re: [Interest] Fwd: vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Jason H
Qt creator does it for you, just add whatever APIs you need (Android SDK, NDK) or xCode and select the plaftorm above the big Run button in QtCreator. Launch the Maintence tool, download Qt for the target platform AFAIK, it is free on Mobile. However... as I've repeatedly stated that I

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Jason H
https://hub.packtpub.com/is-dart-programming-dead-already/ claims Dart is not Dead, just Mostly Dead and that Flutter will save the day... I don't want to learn yet another language to learn a toolkit. I know plenty already. C/C++, JS, Python, C#, Java, Obj-C, Perl, BASH, (Visual)BASIC, Lua,

Re: [Interest] Fwd: vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread ich
OK, i've no idea about how to deploy to mobile devices, but what makes you think its not free? Am February 19, 2019 7:30:23 PM UTC schrieb Sylvain Pointeau : >Qt is free on desktop, but it is not free on mobile, which is a real >showstopper for me and many others. > >Le mar. 19 févr. 2019 à

Re: [Interest] Fwd: vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Sylvain Pointeau
Qt is free on desktop, but it is not free on mobile, which is a real showstopper for me and many others. Le mar. 19 févr. 2019 à 20:12, ich a écrit : > Qt is free, too. > > Am February 19, 2019 7:04:03 PM UTC schrieb Sylvain Pointeau < > sylvain.point...@gmail.com>: >> >> I cannot get it copied

Re: [Interest] Fwd: vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread ich
Qt is free, too. Am February 19, 2019 7:04:03 PM UTC schrieb Sylvain Pointeau : >I cannot get it copied in the email, but the code in the section get >started has no "new" but I agree with you that it is not "declarative" > >The positive points about flutter is that it is free, and intellij

Re: [Interest] Fwd: vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Sylvain Pointeau
I cannot get it copied in the email, but the code in the section get started has no "new" but I agree with you that it is not "declarative" The positive points about flutter is that it is free, and intellij (IDEA) is so great. However, it feels too young, and limited to mobile (some are saying

Re: [Interest] Fwd: vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Jason H
It's still on the home page: https://flutter.io/ "Fast Development" I operate on the "read at least the first page" premise. That whatever they think is most important should be found there.   But losing new doesn't really change my opinion of if it's declarative or not.   Thanks for the

Re: [Interest] Qt Location custom osm plugin and high res tiles

2019-02-19 Thread maitai
Thanks I'll give it a try Message d'origine De : Paolo Angelelli Date : 19/02/2019 7:21 PM (GMT+01:00) À : interest@qt-project.org Objet : Re: [Interest] Qt Location custom osm plugin and high res tiles Hi, yes it's easy.All you have to do is setting the appropriate

[Interest] Fwd: vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Sylvain Pointeau
the "new" is now removed in dart 2.0 so you example is outdated. -- Message transféré - De : Jason H Date : mar. 19 févr. 2019 à 19:25 Objet : Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter À : Bernhard B CC : I'm in your offtopic camp. Everything is going Declarative. I really hate that web

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Jason H
I'm in your offtopic camp. Everything is going Declarative. I really hate that web devevlopment requires the use of HTML/CSS/JS (that's just client side) and some Framework of the Month. The _javascript_ kiddies love inventing frameworks for fame and profit rather than picking one and making it 

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Bernhard B
> I've been studying it for a while now, and I've decided that it will likely be my mobile development language. I love Qt to death for desktop, but I've never been able to take to it's declarative approach. I know others swear by it, but it just never fit my brain waves for some reason. I

Re: [Interest] Publish Qt app to fdroid

2019-02-19 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 15:25, Bernhard B wrote: > > Hello, > > I am wondering, if anyone of you has already published a Qt app to the fdroid > store? > > I did a bit of research and it seems that the fdroid guys have recently > removed Qt from their build environment (see: >

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Bob Hood
On 2/18/2019 7:40 AM, René Hansen wrote: I've not come across any myself, and have only built a few small things with it a bit for now. Initial reactions was that it is *leagues* ahead of Qt with regards to developer experience. You're not locked to an IDE, like with QtCreator, and the ui

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Bernhard B
> I've never said this before, but I think Qt's days are numbered unless they get their ecosystem in order. With Google entering the x-platform marketplace about the hopes Qt has is to somehow deliver better than Google, or hope that Flutter is fleeting Not sure...Qt definitely has it's

Re: [Interest] QSortFilterProxyModel

2019-02-19 Thread Giuseppe D'Angelo via Interest
Il 19/02/19 16:48, Christopher Probst ha scritto: Thank you Nils. My question may have have been incomplete. I am looking to filter the model through a regular expression on data contained in the header. I am not sure the method you suggested is the appropriate one. But it will certainly help.

[Interest] WatchOS app

2019-02-19 Thread Denis Golovkov
I need to develop watchos application as addition to existing ios qt application. How to configure my project for this? Do I need to build qt with watchos platform for it? I found planets-3d example, but this is not what I am looking for, because ios part is fully writed in objc. In my case I need

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Jason H
Yes the V-Play peeps seem to have this nut cracked as well as other mobile efforts. But here's the rub: it should just be part of Qt and I shouldn't need to go two places. If V-Play (Felgo) can make a business out of these efforts, why isn't it the same for Qt proper? I keep rolling my eyes at

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Jereme Givens- Lamothe
Does something like the (recently rebranded) Felgo address any of your concerns about mobile development w/ Qt? They used to call the product "V-Play", but wanted to market it for use in regular apps (non-games) as well. I haven't used it myself, but they seem to handle QML live-reload and

Re: [Interest] QSortFilterProxyModel

2019-02-19 Thread Christopher Probst
Thank you Nils. My question may have have been incomplete. I am looking to filter the model through a regular expression on data contained in the header. I am not sure the method you suggested is the appropriate one. But it will certainly help. Something that would ideally look like void

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Jason H
Many thanks for all those who replied. > I've not come across any myself, and have only built a few small things with > it a bit for now. > > Initial reactions was that it is *leagues* ahead of Qt with regards to > developer experience. You're not locked to an IDE, like with QtCreator, and >

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
19.02.2019, 15:27, "Vlad Stelmahovsky" : > QtMultimedia cant be less power than GStreamer, because QtMultimedia on linux > uses gstreamer as backend :) It's less powerful because its API provides lowest common denominator of all media backends > However I'd like to see there something like

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread René Hansen
On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 06:58 Shawn Rutledge wrote: > On Feb 18, 2019, at 17:18, René Hansen wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 16:27 Shawn Rutledge wrote: > >> >> > On 18 Feb 2019, at 15:40, René Hansen wrote: >> > >> > Achitecturally it's similar to Qt, in that they've build a custom >>

Re: [Interest] vs. Flutter

2019-02-19 Thread Vlad Stelmahovsky
QtMultimedia cant be less power than GStreamer, because QtMultimedia on linux uses gstreamer as backend :) However I'd like to see there something like custom pipeline provider to Gstreamer it would be really useful for different usecases br, Vlad On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 9:39 PM Christian

[Interest] Qt Location custom osm plugin and high res tiles

2019-02-19 Thread maitai
Hello, Is it possible to use high res tiles with a custom osm plugin? In fact I created my own local server and would like to know if I can send high res tiles, for instance if devicePixelRatio is 2 I would send 512x512 tiles, expecting Qt Location to set the tile pixel ratio to 2. Thanks

Re: [Interest] Odd behaviour when organizing .qml files into folders

2019-02-19 Thread Christian Kandeler
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 15:01:47 -0500 Furkan Üzümcü wrote: > That is a great advice. I didn't know RESOURCES generated a qrc file. I can't > find anything in the documentation, it just shows that you add the qrc file > to RESOURCES. I came across an alternative to generate the qrc file with a >