Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace issues

2008-09-24 Thread Andrew Mason
Sounds fantastic to me. Not a fan of the {} namespaces but each to their own. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Stanislav Malyshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! On the ZendCon, we (Marcus, Elizabeth, Andi and myself) had a talk about what we'd like to do with namespaces, and we arrived at the

Re: [PHP-DEV] true namespaces, yet another point of view

2008-09-24 Thread Arvids Godjuks
I completely agree with jvlad's thoughts - for me namespace is ability to separate two different libraries from each other so that they don't conflict. I don't need namespaces just to write my own application using them to be cool, and I probably would never use a namespace for small or middle

Re: [PHP-DEV] true namespaces, yet another point of view

2008-09-24 Thread Lupus Michaelis
Arvids Godjuks a écrit : Of course that isn't a good example, because Zend framework always has a class prefix Zend, but they surely can use a namespace and remove that Zend in front of classes. They are a lot of case where you want to use this syntax. The most common is when you have a

Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace issues

2008-09-24 Thread David Zülke
Am 22.09.2008 um 21:45 schrieb Stanislav Malyshev: On the ZendCon, we (Marcus, Elizabeth, Andi and myself) had a talk about what we'd like to do with namespaces, and we arrived at the following conclusions, which we propose to implement in 5.3: 1. Allow braces for namespaces. So, the

[PHP-DEV] Associative array syntax question?

2008-09-24 Thread troels knak-nielsen
I just realised that his is valid PHP: ?php var_dump( array( 'foo' = 42, 'foo' = 53)); Producing the following output: array(1) { [foo]= int(53) } I can anticipate that there may be practical reasons for this feature, but I can't think up any scenario, where it wouldn't be a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Associative array syntax question?

2008-09-24 Thread Jani Taskinen
troels knak-nielsen wrote: I just realised that his is valid PHP: ?php var_dump( array( 'foo' = 42, 'foo' = 53)); Producing the following output: array(1) { [foo]= int(53) } I can anticipate that there may be practical reasons for this feature, but I can't think up any scenario,

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Fwd: [PATCH] Backport of HEADs output API]

2008-09-24 Thread David Zülke
Am 18.09.2008 um 21:02 schrieb Michael Wallner: In case the original with patches attached doesn't get through: http://dev.iworks.at/PATCHES/php53-backport_output.txt http://dev.iworks.at/PATCHES/pecl-backport_output.txt Isn't there a typo in colorer.cpp: +

Re: [PHP-DEV] [Fwd: [PATCH] Backport of HEADs output API]

2008-09-24 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Michael Wallner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case the original with patches attached doesn't get through: http://dev.iworks.at/PATCHES/php53-backport_output.txt http://dev.iworks.at/PATCHES/pecl-backport_output.txt Original Message

Re: [PHP-DEV] namespace issues

2008-09-24 Thread Stan Vassilev | FM
Hi, 1. and 2. are great. I'm happy to see this done. But for 3. I think that's throwing the baby with the bathwater. Since now global classes inside namespaces will need the use ::Foo; or ::Foo..., I hope you can give a fresh look at my original idea that both functions and classes require

Re: [PHP-DEV] true namespaces, yet another point of view

2008-09-24 Thread Federico Lebron
Tony Bibbs wrote: I disagree here...it is both wanted and and needed. This feature has been promised to the community for quite some time now and I'd simply remind you you do have the option of *not* using namespaces if you don't want too. If you like REALLY_LONG_CLASS_NAMES that's still

Re: [PHP-DEV] true namespaces, yet another point of view

2008-09-24 Thread Lester Caine
Federico Lebron wrote: Tony Bibbs wrote: I disagree here...it is both wanted and and needed. This feature has been promised to the community for quite some time now and I'd simply remind you you do have the option of *not* using namespaces if you don't want too. If you like

Re: [PHP-DEV] true namespaces, yet another point of view

2008-09-24 Thread jvlad
Guilherme Blanco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For those that do not understand very well the explanation of jvlad... He's suggesting to change the class struct to be an scope struct, and have a property that tells if it's a namespace or a class, and reuse the

Re: [PHP-DEV] true namespaces, yet another point of view

2008-09-24 Thread jvlad
Steph Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For those that do not understand very well the explanation of jvlad... Guileherme, you are missing the point. We'd all like to see PHP 5.3.0 out there. It has a lot to offer, but namespace support is very obviously

[PHP-DEV] Re: namespace issues

2008-09-24 Thread Greg Beaver
Stanislav Malyshev wrote: Hi! On the ZendCon, we (Marcus, Elizabeth, Andi and myself) had a talk about what we'd like to do with namespaces, and we arrived at the following conclusions, which we propose to implement in 5.3: 1. Allow braces for namespaces. So, the syntax for namespaces

[PHP-DEV] Re: Adding pecl/http to core

2008-09-24 Thread Greg Beaver
Michael Wallner wrote: Hi, I wonder what the general opinion is on adding pecl/http to the main PHP distribution? Many people have poked me in the past, so I guessed it's time to ask me and you that question once for all. +1 Greg -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: namespace issues

2008-09-24 Thread Steph Fox
Before anyone gets all hyper, my point is *not* to introduce :, but to explain that it is in fact technically feasible to extend the definition of namespaces later to add support for non-class elements and it would work just fine. It is, however, not going to be possible to do this post-5.3

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Adding pecl/http to core

2008-09-24 Thread Nathan Nobbe
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Greg Beaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Wallner wrote: Hi, I wonder what the general opinion is on adding pecl/http to the main PHP distribution? Many people have poked me in the past, so I guessed it's time to ask me and you that question once

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: Adding pecl/http to core

2008-09-24 Thread Mike R
Nathan Nobbe wrote: Michael Wallner wrote: Hi, I wonder what the general opinion is on adding pecl/http to the main PHP distribution? Many people have poked me in the past, so I guessed it's time to ask me and you that question once for all. +1 +1 FWIW, ditto. no to

[PHP-DEV] [PATCH] Fix Bug #46145

2008-09-24 Thread Ilia Cheishvili
Hey all, This patch addresses the *printf() bug when dealing with exponents (%e). See http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=46145 for more details. The patch is large because there were a lot of unit tests written to expect the wrong behavior, so I had to update them. I realize that there is the

[PHP-DEV] Classes userland lookup (with namespaces)

2008-09-24 Thread Mark
Hi, I've been using namespaces for a few months now, and I feel a need for a specific solution. I've been thinking a lot about this, and I will explain everything here. Basically the goal is to be able to overload namespace resolution (ie. overloading new and static calls). Basically (case 1),