On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Levi Morrison le...@php.net wrote:
About the man page: what files do you have in php/man/man1 ?
php.1 php-cgi.1 php-config.1 phpize.1
^ Those four. Normally there are two more (phar.1 and phar.phar.1)
from looking my 5.6.3 install. Aside from
Hi all,
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki yohg...@ohgaki.net wrote:
I would like to improve session save handler module API for PHP7.
When new session data is created, some save handlers need to create
new session data explicitly. e.g. RDBMS based save handler.
New session
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Le 29/01/2015 08:00, Yasuo Ohgaki a écrit :
If there is no comment, I'll add new parameter since it's simpler.
Changing a function prototype is very hard to detect at buildtime,
especially when playing with pointer.
A new API seems really cleaner.
Hi,
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Matteo Beccati p...@beccati.com wrote:
Hi Andrey,
On 28/01/2015 23:50, Andrey Andreev wrote:
You're voting no because the FIG can't agree yet?
They've been discussing this for *at least* an year and iirc the first
PSR-7 coordinator gave up on it because
Zitat von Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com:
As a follow-up to my PHP7 Homework post last week, here is a bit of
spoon-feeding for all you lurkers on this list.
https://atlas.hashicorp.com/rasmus/boxes/php7dev
The description there should be fairly self-explanatory. If you have a
computer
On 01/29/2015 03:49 AM, Levi Morrison wrote:
When doing `make install` with a prefix of `/apps/php/7.0.0-dev` I get:
Installing shared extensions:
/apps/php/7.0.0-dev/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-non-zts-20141001/
Installing PHP CLI binary:/apps/php/7.0.0-dev/bin/
Installing PHP CLI
Hi Remi,
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Remi Collet r...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
If there is no comment, I'll add new parameter since it's simpler.
Changing a function prototype is very hard to detect at buildtime,
especially when playing with pointer.
A new API seems really cleaner.
Hi Thomas,
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Thomas Bley ma...@thomasbley.de wrote:
I think you mean:
function myErrorHandler( int $errno , string $errstr [, string $errfile [,
int $errline [, array $errcontext [, string $extra_errstr )
Yes.
We have these empty-call-filled-on-return
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Jan Schneider j...@horde.org wrote:
Zitat von Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com:
As a follow-up to my PHP7 Homework post last week, here is a bit of
spoon-feeding for all you lurkers on this list.
https://atlas.hashicorp.com/rasmus/boxes/php7dev
The
Hi Mike,
Awesome work!
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
I’ve rewritten the RFC for pecl_http and hopefully addressed most of the
things mentioned previously.
I you still find anything lacking, please let me know, so I can expand the
RFC accordingly.
Hi Mike,
On 29 Jan 2015, at 11:14, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
I’ve rewritten the RFC for pecl_http and hopefully addressed most of the
things mentioned previously.
I you still find anything lacking, please let me know, so I can expand the
RFC accordingly.
The RFC is an
Hi,
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Matteo Beccati p...@beccati.com wrote:
Hi Andrey,
On 29/01/2015 10:41, Andrey Andreev wrote:
It's not about whether we like the FIG's direction or what PSR
stands for (which doesn't make sense btw) - that is indeed OT.
My message was different: the
Hi Andrey,
On 29/01/2015 10:41, Andrey Andreev wrote:
It's not about whether we like the FIG's direction or what PSR
stands for (which doesn't make sense btw) - that is indeed OT.
My message was different: the PHP RFC process can't get blocked
because of a third-party group, especially if your
Hi!
I’ve rewritten the RFC for pecl_http and hopefully addressed most of the things
mentioned previously.
I you still find anything lacking, please let me know, so I can expand the RFC
accordingly.
And of course, everything else is up for discussion.
Thanks,
Mike
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2015-01-29 14:07 GMT+01:00 Pavel Kouřil pajou...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
Hi,
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on
August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add
pecl_http to the
On 29/01/15 12:32, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
Hi Mike,
Awesome work!
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net
mailto:m...@php.net wrote:
I’ve rewritten the RFC for pecl_http and hopefully addressed most of
the things mentioned previously.
I you still find
* Why should we have our own HTTP API and not follow PSR-7?
possible points:
- PHP-FIG propose no implementations; pecl_http does
- PHP-FIG focus on frameworks; pecl_http in core is useable without
dependencies by every simple script
- PSR-7 is a moving target; pecl_http exists for ten
On 29 Jan 2015, at 12:18, Crypto Compress cryptocompr...@googlemail.com
wrote:
* Why should we have our own HTTP API and not follow PSR-7?
possible points:
- PHP-FIG propose no implementations; pecl_http does
- native implementations should be faster
I don’t see how that’s relevant:
Zitat von Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Jan Schneider j...@horde.org wrote:
_Zitat von Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com:_
_On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Jan Schneider j...@horde.org wrote:_
_Zitat von Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com:_
_As a
On 29/01/15 11:40, Andrea Faulds wrote:
* Why do we need pecl/http?
* Why should pecl/http be merged into PHP core?
* Why should pecl/http be enabled by default?
* Why should we have our own HTTP API and not follow PSR-7?
* What does it offer over PHP’s existing HTTP capabilities?
* Why
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Jan Schneider j...@horde.org wrote:
Zitat von Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Jan Schneider j...@horde.org wrote:
Zitat von Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com:
As a follow-up to my PHP7 Homework post last week, here is
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
Hi,
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on
August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add
pecl_http to the core. The vote will be open until about 12:00 UTC on
Friday, February
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 3:49 AM, Levi Morrison le...@php.net wrote:
When doing `make install` with a prefix of `/apps/php/7.0.0-dev` I get:
Installing shared extensions:
/apps/php/7.0.0-dev/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-non-zts-20141001/
Installing PHP CLI binary:
On 1/29/15 6:40 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote:
On 29 Jan 2015, at 12:18, Crypto Compress cryptocompr...@googlemail.com wrote:
* Why should we have our own HTTP API and not follow PSR-7?
possible points:
- PHP-FIG propose no implementations; pecl_http does
- native implementations should be
About the man page: what files do you have in php/man/man1 ?
php.1 php-cgi.1 php-config.1 phpize.1
^ Those four. Normally there are two more (phar.1 and phar.phar.1)
from looking my 5.6.3 install. Aside from that I'm not sure what else
could be different. I'm not very familiar with
Hi,
I've solved most of the reported problems and started working on RFC.
Nikta, please take a look into:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php7_foreach
https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1034
and especially commit 15a23b1
Only iteration by value over plain objects is not completely consistent now.
On 29 01 2015, at 12:14, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
Hi!
I’ve rewritten the RFC for pecl_http and hopefully addressed most of the
things mentioned previously.
I you still find anything lacking, please let me know, so I can expand the
RFC accordingly.
And of course,
Hi,
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki yohg...@ohgaki.net wrote:
Hi all,
I came across with bug #68947 https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=68947
and realized small inconsistency.
http://3v4l.org/ldZKl
$obj-${array[$key]}; // Syntax error
$obj-{$array[$key]}; // Works
Hi Andrey,
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 6:43 AM, Andrey Andreev n...@devilix.net wrote:
Is somebody actually recommending the latter form? I'm surprised that
it even works ... that should be a syntax error IMO.
Do you mean
echo ${array[$key]}; // Works
should be errror?
This form is common in
Hi all,
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Crypto Compress
cryptocompr...@googlemail.com wrote:
possible points:
- PHP-FIG propose no implementations; pecl_http does
- PHP-FIG focus on frameworks; pecl_http in core is useable without
dependencies by every simple script
- PSR-7 is a moving
Hi all,
I came across with bug #68947 https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=68947
and realized small inconsistency.
http://3v4l.org/ldZKl
$obj-${array[$key]}; // Syntax error
$obj-{$array[$key]}; // Works
$obj-${key}; // E_NOTICE. Does not work
$obj-{$key}; // Works
echo ${array[$key]}; // Works
Hi Yasuo,
On 29 Jan 2015, at 22:14, Yasuo Ohgaki yohg...@ohgaki.net wrote:
Hi Andrey,
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 6:43 AM, Andrey Andreev n...@devilix.net wrote:
Is somebody actually recommending the latter form? I'm surprised that
it even works ... that should be a syntax error IMO.
Hi all,
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Rasmus Lerdorf ras...@lerdorf.com wrote:
On 01/29/2015 01:32 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
Hi all,
I came across with bug #68947 https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=68947
and realized small inconsistency.
http://3v4l.org/ldZKl
$obj-${array[$key]};
Hi Andrea,
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote:
I would expect that anything within ${} works the same as it does outside
it. Having $obj-${array[$key]} do something different to $key =
array[$key], $obj-${$key} would make no sense to me.
Good point! I forgot
On 01/29/2015 01:32 PM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
Hi all,
I came across with bug #68947 https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=68947
and realized small inconsistency.
http://3v4l.org/ldZKl
$obj-${array[$key]}; // Syntax error
$obj-{$array[$key]}; // Works
$obj-${key}; // E_NOTICE. Does not work
Usually it is solved sending the $this instance to class C constructor and
C object storing it in some attribute, solving the problem. I don't think a
new keyword would help.
Juan Basso
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:53 PM, S.A.N ua.san.a...@gmail.com wrote:
The reason for creating circular
I will clarify the benefits of the keyword.
Single instance of the class can reused in different contexts calls.
?php
class A
{
public $object;
}
class B
{
public $object;
}
class C
{
public function getCaller() {
return caller::class;
}
}
$a = new A;
$b = new B;
$c =
The reason for creating circular references, usually due to the need to
bind objects.
But this relationship can often be obtained from the context of the call.
It will be very convenient to have a keyword that will return reference to
an object, which caused this object.
Sorry for my English,
Yes.
But this creates a static link that will not be constantly changing context
to the calls, the keyword will give a dynamic abstract communication.
2015-01-30 5:50 GMT+02:00 Juan Basso jrba...@gmail.com:
Usually it is solved sending the $this instance to class C constructor and
C object
Hi!
I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to have a `strict` mode in PHP.
Many language have them and it is a good idea.
I think it should be a bit different in PHP, it should encourage the
following things:
- Avoid deprecated things, it should throw an exception.
- Avoid explicit
Hi Cesar,
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:16 PM, César Rodas ce...@rodas.me wrote:
I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to have a `strict` mode in PHP.
Many language have them and it is a good idea.
I think it should be a bit different in PHP, it should encourage the
following things:
-
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
I’ve rewritten the RFC for pecl_http and hopefully addressed most of the
things mentioned previously.
I you still find anything lacking, please let me know, so I can expand the
RFC accordingly.
And of course, everything
On 01/29/2015 10:30 PM, S.A.N wrote:
I will clarify the benefits of the keyword.
Single instance of the class can reused in different contexts calls.
?php
class A
{
public $object;
}
class B
{
public $object;
}
class C
{
public function getCaller() {
return
De : Larry Garfield [mailto:la...@garfieldtech.com]
Having an object that behaves differently depending on an implicit
relationship with where it happened to be called from is full of all
kinds of impossible to debug magic. I don't even know how you'd unit
test it. I can think of no use
Hi Daniel!
On 30 01 2015, at 07:28, Daniel Lowrey rdlow...@php.net wrote:
Hi Mike :)
I'd like to chime in on the discussion ...
1. There is a lot of *really* useful functionality in pecl/http that IMO
should be bundled with the standard PHP distribution.
This, to me, means things
Hi,
I'd like to start discussion about fixing inconsistent foreach statement
behavior.
The implementation is almost done. It not only fixes inconsistencies in a
defined by RFC way but also improves performance in most usual cases,
because now foreach by value over array doesn't require array
Hi,
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Yasuo Ohgaki yohg...@ohgaki.net wrote:
Hi Andrea,
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote:
I would expect that anything within ${} works the same as it does outside
it. Having $obj-${array[$key]} do something different to $key =
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