On Mar 18, 2015 10:52 AM, Stanislav Malyshev smalys...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
Private emails, pressure and what many, including myself, consider as
harassment is a big issue in many OSS projects, and for PHP too. I am
What exactly you are calling harassment?
Repeatedly, explicitly,
Hi!
Private emails, pressure and what many, including myself, consider as
harassment is a big issue in many OSS projects, and for PHP too. I am
What exactly you are calling harassment? I have a feeling we are
talking about different things, so it would be nice to explain what
exactly is
Hi Andre,
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 8:53 AM, André Rømcke andre.rom...@ez.no wrote:
TL;DR; weak mode is for api consumers, aka normal php users, while strict
is
for the actual target users of this features: api (library/framework)
creators.
How could it possible?
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at
On Mar 18, 2015 11:26 AM, Yasuo Ohgaki yohg...@ohgaki.net wrote:
I didn't have my time to spent for the patch. So I don't verify this
by myself, but it seems common sense for this RFC.
So you voted against it without knowing how it actually works or aims to
work? I suggest you to do it now
On 16 March 2015 at 23:37, Dan Ackroyd dan...@basereality.com wrote:
In particular the keywords 'Resource' and 'mixed' seem to have limited
need to be reserved. I don't believe there has been any suggestion
that either of these would actually be used as types for PHP 7.x. So
making them be
rather than having a single untyped parameter amongst typed ones
Yes, when experimenting with strict types, I'd rather move things in and
out of 'mixed' than remove the notation completely. Like you said, 'mixed'
means, I've reviewed this area and concluded it needs to be dynamic.
Also, maybe
Hi, all
At first, Thanks for all your work put in here, Marcio. It gave me a new
hint for a possible code-failure.
FYI: PhpStorm lately added an inspector for that. Glad to see that move
after I heard that the RFC won't pass.
https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/WI-14692
Bye,
Simon
On Mon, Mar
On 17 March 2015 at 07:08, Leigh lei...@gmail.com wrote:
I agree, mixed seems to serve no purpose (just don't hint the parameter,
same result). Resource is something we're hopefully going to phase out over
time as they get replaced with objects (like Nikita already did with GMP,
and hopefully
On 17/03/15 02:50, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
Let's get on the road for PHP 7 GA and make it the best PHP release ever.
To help towards that end, can someone who understands what is wanted
from the weak type hint mode actually produce a summary of that as it is
very difficult to extract just what
On 17 March 2015 at 08:02, Sanford Whiteman figureone...@gmail.com wrote:
rather than having a single untyped parameter amongst typed ones
Yes, when experimenting with strict types, I'd rather move things in and
out of 'mixed' than remove the notation completely. Like you said, 'mixed'
helping to maintain the wiki (php/web-wiki and php/web-shared) as suggested by
bjori
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Hi,
2015-03-17 21:35 GMT+01:00 Stanislav Malyshev smalys...@gmail.com:
Or, even worse, given current tendencies, somebody submits a proposal,
couple of people say yeah good idea, then vote happens and somehow
there's 30 no votes without any explanation - and without possibility
to fix it
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Stanislav Malyshev smalys...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi!
Dmitry, the perf boost of this is awesome, but is it completely safe?
Won't a signal potentially overwrite a register variable here? Like on a
timeout, for example?
The docs say
Hi!
While I agree with discussing an ongoing vote, I do not find it ok for
people
to be able to see the current status of an ongoing vote. This might lead to
harassing people into voting just to change the outcome. Clear example:
You frame trying to change people's mind as something negative
I recently stumbled over that issue, too; thanks for looking into it.
Looking at the patch, it seems, that some handling for bzip2 archives is
missing; I think if there are special cases for .tar, .tgz and .zip,
there should also be a case for .tbz2 (.tar.bz2).
Yep, I discussed this with a
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Sebastian B.-Hagensen
sbj.ml.r...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
2015-03-17 20:55 GMT+01:00 Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com:
If you need to confirm the statistics, or gather more background data,
then feel free to contact me privately, off the list, and I'll
Hi!
i.e. when it works at all. With Apache 2.4 the ap_rflush() in zif_virtual()
terminates the currently running main request, in my testing, resulting in a
completely crashing apache. This might be remedied, though.
At the moment, as part of my efforts to fix bug 68486, I have modified
Hi,
2015-03-17 20:55 GMT+01:00 Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com:
If you need to confirm the statistics, or gather more background data,
then feel free to contact me privately, off the list, and I'll get you
the account approval dates (karma and/or wiki).
While I agree that the
Why we want to block it? What's wrong in convincing people that your
idea is OK (or that it's not OK, for that matter)? Isn't it kind of the
whole point of discussing it?
While I agree with discussing an ongoing vote, I do not find it ok for
people
to be able to see the current status of an
We use preserved CPU registers.
According to ABI called functions have to keep them unchanged. Of course
they may save and then restore them back.
I didn't see any problems yet, however I know that some old GCC may
generate invalid code when using global registers.
Most probably we will have to
Hi Caio,
Could you please run make test with and without the patch and compare the
failed tests.
The patch must not add new failures.
Thanks. Dmitry.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Caio Souza Oliveira
caio.olive...@eldorado.org.br wrote:
Hello guys!
I’ve included the optimization
On March 16, 2015 11:10:41 PM GMT+01:00, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mar 17, 2015 7:05 AM, Peter Petermann ppeterman...@gmail.com
wrote:
On March 16, 2015 2:32:39 PM GMT+01:00, Pascal Chevrel
pascal.chev...@free.fr wrote:
It's too late, Bob's Basic STH missed the schedule
Hi,
Please consider possibility of using the same optimization for ARM, PPC and
may be other platforms.
On x86(_84) it makes 2-7% speedup.
Only the similar changes in zend_execute.c and Zend.m4 are required to
enable it.
Thanks. Dmitry.
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On 17/03/15 15:55, Ralph Schindler wrote:
hi all,
Phar::convertTo*() methods have a design flaw such that phar files can't
be successfully converted and retain the proper file suffix at the same
time when the base name contains dots. An expression of this is
attempting to convert
Thanks after seeing a PR with the correct wording, I finally understood
what I needed to put in that last field. I feel like a robot.
Also my wiki username for the internals list is: cminick
Thanks for your help!
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Christoph Becker cmbecke...@gmx.de wrote:
Admin
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Stanislav Malyshev
smalys...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
I think having clearer rules about what lobbying is permitted, and
introducing some rules on who can vote on what would be a better way
of limiting the effect of lobbying.
And pretty soon we'll have 100-page
hi,
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Hannes Magnusson
hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Sebastian B.-Hagensen
sbj.ml.r...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
2015-03-17 20:55 GMT+01:00 Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com:
If you need to confirm the statistics, or
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Stanislav Malyshev smalys...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi!
I think having clearer rules about what lobbying is permitted, and
introducing some rules on who can vote on what would be a better way
of limiting the effect of lobbying.
And pretty soon we'll have
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On 17.03.2015 22:37, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
While I agree with discussing an ongoing vote, I do not find it ok for
people
to be able to see the current status of an ongoing vote. This might lead to
harassing people into voting just to change the outcome. Clear example:
You frame trying
Hi!
I think having clearer rules about what lobbying is permitted, and
introducing some rules on who can vote on what would be a better way
of limiting the effect of lobbying.
And pretty soon we'll have 100-page law codex about rules of campaigning
and campaign expenditures and what can be
All,
I wholeheartedly recommend that we don't discuss any proposals to change the
voting process at this point in time.
There are definitely flaws in the voting RFC and its implementation, and I
think we should address them - but not right now. With the exception of
the few RFCs still up for a
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:17 AM, Dustin Whtitle
dustin.whit...@gmail.com wrote:
Maintaining the documentation
Have you seen https://edit.php.net ?
I'd recommend getting involved there and or checkout php...@lists.php.net
-Hannes
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Hi!
people vote to appear/be active I don't see any way to avoid it - people
with a strong opinion might still try to win over, others might just go
this route if they think something really, really bad is happening -
we'll never know unless they publicly post this call to action.
So,
Admin Admin wrote:
You have to enter the email address of this mailing list into the fourth
field of the form.
Just gave that a try, no error message. still goes back to the form.
Indeed there is a bug with regard to the messages. I have submitted a
PR
I dislike the lobbying, and think some of the allgeged abusive
back-channel communications are wildly out of order, but I would be
against this change.
There have been a couple of instances in the past few weeks where
someone has voted in a particular way.
When asked why they voted like that,
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:10 PM, Stelian Mocanita
stelian.mocan...@gmail.com wrote:
Why we want to block it? What's wrong in convincing people that your
idea is OK (or that it's not OK, for that matter)? Isn't it kind of the
whole point of discussing it?
While I agree with discussing
Please also tell your GCC version.
We had problems with 4.6.3 and 4.7.0, so we disabled global variables for
GCC prior 4.8.0.
Thanks. Dmitry.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Dmitry Stogov dmi...@zend.com wrote:
Hi Caio,
Could you please run make test with and without the patch and compare
On Mar 17, 2015, at 18:04 , Leigh lei...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 March 2015 at 08:37, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
To help towards that end, can someone who understands what is wanted
from the weak type hint mode actually produce a summary of that as it is
very difficult to
Hello Stelian,
just FYI: it was proposed in the past and even implemenented [1], but
then reverted [2]. However, I don't remember reasoning back then.
Regards,
Maciej.
[1]: https://github.com/php/web-wiki/pull/1
[2]:
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Anthony Ferrara ircmax...@gmail.com wrote:
All,
I ran some numbers on the current votes of the dual-mode vote right
now. There were a number of voters that I didn't recognize. So I
decided to pull some stats.
The following voters never voted before the
Hi!
Dmitry, the perf boost of this is awesome, but is it completely safe?
Won't a signal potentially overwrite a register variable here? Like on a
timeout, for example?
The docs say (http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Global-Reg-Vars.html):
It is not safe to access the global register
Hello internals,
In the light of recent events, I would like to propose a change to the way
we vote.
The change would be switching from visible casted votes to private / hidden
votes
until the date/time the vote closes, at which time everything will be made
visible
once again.
This would block
Diff:
diff --git a/Zend/Zend.m4 b/Zend/Zend.m4
index 16f2d5f..e12b00d 100644
--- a/Zend/Zend.m4
+++ b/Zend/Zend.m4
@@ -409,3 +409,48 @@ else
AC_MSG_RESULT(no)
fi
fi
+
+AC_ARG_ENABLE(gcc-global-regs,
+[ --disable-gcc-global-regs
+ whether to enable
Hi!
This would block voting lobbying in various social channels based on
possible
outcomes, and would allow voting to run its course unaltered. The people
Why we want to block it? What's wrong in convincing people that your
idea is OK (or that it's not OK, for that matter)? Isn't it kind of
I see absolutely no issues with the visibility of votes, or the act of
“lobbying” for someone’s vote.
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Stanislav Malyshev smalys...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi!
This would block voting lobbying in various social channels based on
possible
outcomes, and would allow
Hi, Dmitry.
Thank you for contacting us.
Leonardo and Caio (in CC), they will verify.
Thank you very much. Temple.
From: Dmitry Stogov [mailto:dmi...@zend.com]
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To: Ard Biesheuvel; Gustavo Frederico Temple Pedrosa
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Le 17/03/2015 14:12, Jan Schneider a écrit :
Hello,
now that RFCing has settled down a bit, and things should get back
to more development and less politics, can someone please take a
look at this regression:
Hello,
now that RFCing has settled down a bit, and things should get back to
more development and less politics, can someone please take a look at
this regression: https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=68948 that has a PR
here: https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1153
This BC breaking
The Generator Return Expressions RFC vote has concluded with the following
results:
YES: 32
NO: 0
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/generator-return-expressions#vote
Thank you again to everyone who took time to read and consider the
proposal. The associated patch will be merged into master in the
hi all,
Phar::convertTo*() methods have a design flaw such that phar files can't
be successfully converted and retain the proper file suffix at the same
time when the base name contains dots. An expression of this is
attempting to convert something-v3.0.0.phar to say a tar.gz via
Hi Dmitry,
I can confirm a ~10-11% reduction in execution time of the bench.php from
last month build (x64) to today's commit (from 1.154 sec to 1.010). Amazing
job!
Albert
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Gustavo Frederico Temple Pedrosa
gustavo.pedr...@eldorado.org.br wrote:
Hi, Dmitry.
On 17 March 2015 at 08:37, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
To help towards that end, can someone who understands what is wanted
from the weak type hint mode actually produce a summary of that as it is
very difficult to extract just what has now been agreed for that area of
type
Hi!
Repeatedly, explicitly, strongly asking to shut down a RFC or general
proposal is what I consider as harassment. Even more if prominent
figures do it.
As I suspected, your definition of harassment is very different from
mine. If someone would ask me to shutdown RFC without explanation,
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