Hi all,
> On Aug 15, 2020, at 18:27, kont...@beberlei.de wrote:
>
> The Voring RFC clearly states 2 weeks from the announcement on this list.
Which rule was clearly not followed ...
> If we consider the current vote an instance of human error
... which consideration I agree with ...
> then i
On 16.08.20 01:07, Paul M. Jones wrote:
/me furrows brow
If I understand correctly, that means the currently-running vote overlaps with
the discussion period? If so, that sounds (again) highly irregular.
The proper thing to do here is a full reset: restart the 2-week discussion
period at the
> Am 16.08.2020 um 01:08 schrieb Paul M. Jones :
>
> HI all,
>
>
>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 18:00, Benjamin Eberlei wrote:
>>
>> Additionally, Derick and I are waiting for word from Sara and Gabriel at
>> the moment, but we suggested to close and reset the vote to wait until the
>> discussion
HI all,
> On Aug 15, 2020, at 18:00, Benjamin Eberlei wrote:
>
> Additionally, Derick and I are waiting for word from Sara and Gabriel at
> the moment, but we suggested to close and reset the vote to wait until the
> discussion period is over on Tuesday to accommodate the criticism of us
>
On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 11:47 PM Jakob Givoni wrote:
> This will probably be my only contribution to this thread so I'll keep
> it simple:
>
> Am I in favor of a revote? Yes
> Can I vote myself? No
> Do I think a revote will change anything? No
> Have there been any good arguments for why
This will probably be my only contribution to this thread so I'll keep
it simple:
Am I in favor of a revote? Yes
Can I vote myself? No
Do I think a revote will change anything? No
Have there been any good arguments for why attributes need an ending
delimiter? No
The RFC says that
> The main
>
> I am for stopping the current voting too - because the results are very
> different vs. the previous voting, they are almost random and the
> discussion is still very hot which violates rule when voting can be
> started.
For what it's worth, I'm for resetting the voting, too, and restart it
I am for stopping the current voting too - because the results are very
different vs. the previous voting, they are almost random and the
discussion is still very hot which violates rule when voting can be
started.
My personal opinion on the attributes is:
- allow not grouped syntax (with @@
On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 16:07, tyson andre wrote:
> I also want a revote.
>
I do too.
Partly because of the rules, but mostly because this discussion has gone on
so long I am now less clear about what is an "ending delimiter" and why it
matters than before.
And whether the begin/end delimiters
Hi Internals,
> Next to Theodore, at least 4 other people in this mailing list have
> stated that they think the RFC process should be followed as stated in
> the RFC documents (with proper time for discussion and voting, which was
> clearly not adhered to) and/or that there is important
> 2020年8月15日 上午2:16,Eric Norris 写道:
>
> Hey internals,
>
> I've submitted https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/5935 as a way to expose
> an underlying PDO driver's check_liveness function to userland scripts.
> Often advice given on the internet is to issue a no-op statement (e.g.
> SELECT 1
> On Aug 15, 2020, at 04:54, Michał Marcin Brzuchalski
> wrote:
>
> Currently you're the only one who wants to wipe the vote and there is no
> much voices willing to follow your proposal.
He's not alone. This whole re-vote on the attribute syntax has been highly
irregular.
This vote should
On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 2:53 PM Björn Larsson
wrote:
> Den 2020-08-14 kl. 21:23, skrev Derick Rethans:
>
> > On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, Sara Golemon wrote:
> >
> >> Derick was trying to be good and meet my beta3 deadline.
> > And I even got that date wrong by a week. Oops.
> >
> >> Fortunately, I gave
Den 2020-08-14 kl. 21:23, skrev Derick Rethans:
On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, Sara Golemon wrote:
Derick was trying to be good and meet my beta3 deadline.
And I even got that date wrong by a week. Oops.
Fortunately, I gave him that deadline (while thinking RC1) knowing
some kind of bullshit like
On 15.08.20 12:35, Michał Marcin Brzuchalski wrote:
If you wanna follow democratic rules then first of all 4 is not a quorum.
Secondly, you should be fine with additional voting about stopping current
RFC vote, right?
The RFC process has been agreed upon by the people involved with PHP. It
Hi Andreas,
sob., 15 sie 2020, 12:24 użytkownik Andreas Leathley
napisał:
> On 15.08.20 11:54, Michał Marcin Brzuchalski wrote:
> > I don't think there's anything significant changed in the RFC. I really
> > doubt the vote result will change significantly.
> >
> > Currently you're the only one
On 15.08.20 11:54, Michał Marcin Brzuchalski wrote:
I don't think there's anything significant changed in the RFC. I really
doubt the vote result will change significantly.
Currently you're the only one who wants to wipe the vote and there is no
much voices willing to follow your proposal.
On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 at 10:54, Michał Marcin Brzuchalski <
michal.brzuchal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Theodore,
>
> pt., 14 sie 2020, 22:16 użytkownik Theodore Brown
> napisał:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 2:23 PM Derick Rethans wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, Sara Golemon wrote:
> > >
> >
Hi Theodore,
pt., 14 sie 2020, 22:16 użytkownik Theodore Brown
napisał:
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 2:23 PM Derick Rethans wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, Sara Golemon wrote:
> >
> > > > Derick and Benjamin (and Sara), are these requests reasonable? If
> > > > the RFC follows the discussion
On 15.08.2020 at 11:04, Jakub Zelenka wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020, 09:59 Jakub Zelenka, wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, 23:36 Gabriel Caruso,
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 19:16, Jakub Zelenka wrote:
>>>
Hi,
Just a heads up that I would like to drop support for
On Sat, 15 Aug 2020, 09:59 Jakub Zelenka, wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, 23:36 Gabriel Caruso,
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 19:16, Jakub Zelenka wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Just a heads up that I would like to drop support for OpenSSL 1.0.1 in
>>> PHP
>>> 8.0 as it doesn't seem to be
On Fri, 14 Aug 2020, 23:36 Gabriel Caruso,
wrote:
>
> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 19:16, Jakub Zelenka wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just a heads up that I would like to drop support for OpenSSL 1.0.1 in PHP
>> 8.0 as it doesn't seem to be supported by any major distro (think that
>> RHEL
>> switched to
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