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At this stage, I intend to close the vote in a week's time: so
Wednesday, December 5.
+1 for deprecation in 5.5
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to expose the data, because
why not if its useful to some users like the *_logo_guid() functions
did/does.
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actively against this problem, which indeed is a problem for us and
especially the MySQL guys that a literally forced to support it.
TL;DR, if we don't do it now, we just keep postponing it and nothing
will happen.
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5.4 is in security-fixes-only mode then I think 5.5 should remain as the
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2012/7/19 Andrew Faulds ajf...@googlemail.com:
Forgive my ignorance, what is APC?
Alternative PHP Cache
http://pecl.php.net/apc
http://php.net/apc
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and people expect it
to exist. I'd say it is an inconsistency.
* It can be used as a callback, which is why a bool-cast does not suffice.
Does it really matter nowadays when we got closures anyway:
$bools = array_map(range('a', 'z'), function($a){ return((boolean) $a); });
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language that have a dynamically changed syntax, which makes
it seem inconsistent.
Hope this was some constructive feedback if you decide to write an RFC about it.
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not do any magical
overloading without explicitly declared, witch I think is a good
decision.
TL;DR, in basic terms, if you want it as a one-liner, you must
implement the overloading methods yourself to obtain that chaning you
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2011/10/13 Xinchen Hui larue...@gmail.com:
Hi:
If send signal enabled, no system will be called.
Thkans
What about systems without Zend Signal Handling, like Windows?
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parent is abstract.
Sure the warning could go away if both the interface and abstract
class signatures match, but that would seem inconsistent to me.
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PHP because
people will quickly adapt to their distro behavior and wonder why
their code breaks when they run it on their server thats using a
de-facto version of PHP and the blame normally ends up at us.
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we added the FPM SAPI in 5.3. Like it was raised in the original
thread, bringing more awareness about an opcode cacher into a standard
distribution of PHP will benefit us all in the long run.
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some more attention to APC from a developer perspective (other than
those who dwell into pecl/).
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and always available in ZTS mode, not sure why we haven't
extended this to work in NTS for those two cases.
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for it not to be available in NTS? I haven't dug into the
code that deeply so I'm just curious.
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that would be awesome.
I reckon Felipe had a patch for this back in the early 5.3 development
days, Felipe?
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could do like that of above and cast an exception instead of
E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR (as I believe is being cast now) in 5.4.
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not gonna vote because they
don't follow Internals.
But -1 from me.
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are seeing (should be a 10 liner script for this
incident)
[1] http://bugs.php.net/
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() triggers autoloader
I have attached a simple one liner patch to the report, which like
Hannes said, should go into 5.3.8 to keep BC.
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Also check the database if you choose to report it, as there would be
no need to open a new report if an already existing one is open or if
one recently have been closed.
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their will last time. Okay maybe thats a bit over the line
of what we have here, but I honestly don't see that religious hate
against this model which works absolutely fine.
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remember much of the discussion other than
it was moved to another list which I didn't subscribe to, I just
remember it was long and ongoing with our beloved namespace separator
at the same time which floated internals.
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byte and have to validate what
kind of character sequence we're at now.
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to the object model,
like final properties, interfaces with properties, getters, setters,
But in the end I think it would rime greatly with traits and
other goodies in 5.4 if someone took the time and care for this RFC,
just worried its way too late already.
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in extensions thats synced in all active
branches to limit the amount of work needed to maintain different code
in active branches so its without a meaning.
See main/php.h for the API version thats updated at every major/minor
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, it would make more sense to have the votings over before
doing the next Alpha, so theres time to cook up relevant patches and
commit them.
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2011/6/22 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net:
WTF should this do?
this won't return boolean
It's an expression, so its evaluated result is a boolean hence why it
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by any PHP function.
Can this be added to 5_4 please?
I'll merge it within the weekend
Thanks,
Paul Dragoonis.
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2011/5/28 marius adrian popa map...@gmail.com:
Removing some cruft from php
I'm thinking that the logo should be optional --disable-logo
PHPE9568F34-D428-11d2-A769-00AA001ACF42
expose_php = Off?
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magic_quotes which still is pending for discussion. See [1] for more
information about the removed features.
[1] http://php.net/php6news
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see it harmfully in anyway, Johannes?
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as a name for something
like a class/method/function etc. but of course still allowed in
variable and constants (defined using define() -- not const as its
compile time).
class global { } /* fatal error */
function default() { } /* fatal error */
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be done, but I'm not sure how good it would be and if
it requires hacks to the parser. Someone with more in-depth knowledge
of ZE might be able to answer this ;-)
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error but private
function foo(){} not?
The var keyword is an alias of the public keyword for BC with
PHP4. So it would be illogically to declare a property both private
and public at the same time ;-)
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2010/11/27 Johannes Schlüter johan...@schlueters.de:
RFC: http://wiki.php.net/rfc/optional-t-function
Patch: http://schlueters.de/~johannes/php/zend_optional_t_function.diff
+1, I've missed being able to skip the function keyword for a while now.
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$a =
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Lets forget about the past PHP6 and make the present PHP6 happen instead.
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running an ancient version of PHP and never would upgrade
or similar reasons.
But all in all, I think it depends on us advertising it properly in
the manual, how to deal with it that is.
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this summer, so yes register_globals are gone along with safe_mode:
http://php.net/php6news
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that out of the core so we can educate our developers about a more
solid way about database handling but lets not hijack the topic with
ext/mysql ;-)
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into the binary to fallback to On)
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('...') ...)
Disabling them):
This will help to disable the spread of magic_quotes even more, and it
can safely be removed in the next major version of PHP.
My personal vote here goes towards removing them entirely.
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2010/11/16 Pierrick Charron pierr...@webstart.fr:
+1
+1 for annotations in 5.4
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in a regular build unlike
leak() and crash() which are defined in zend_builtin_functions.c in
debug mode only or did I miss something here?
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./configure, so I believe it is indeed a bug on the Unix build system
causing this, so yeah I suppose it should be fixed.
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the --enable-zts option is
used? Thats what the SAPI config.w32 files does for things like
Apache2
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interfaces that interact
directly with the language syntax (like Iterator) and not in SPL.
The patch itself is flowlessly simple and I think it would be a great
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2010/9/28 Michael Wallner m...@php.net:
On 09/28/2010 07:05 AM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
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2010/9/27 Johannes Schlüterjohan...@schlueters.de:
I think Mike's point was that these functions, according to the comment,
only exist for BC reasons. So they should either keep BC or be dropped
OpenGrok, but it was only used within the
date extension, so i think the break is minor to nothing.
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Is there any reason for we don't support expressions like:
test() or throw new Exception('test() failed');
If no, is there any argument against supporting such a syntax in trunk?
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ReflectionAnnotation::__construct() :)
But I'm a +1 for merging this into trunk, as it will without doubt get
improved as we go, like with Traits.
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On a personal level I only think E_ALL would make sense, because in
the old PHP6 E_STRICT were not apart of E_ALL, that is ofcourse, if
you choose not to use the magic -1 thats always contains all the
bits no matter what.
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for zend_parse_parameters() to expose it to
userland and its available in PECL:
http://svn.php.net/viewvc/pecl/params/trunk/
Im a +1 for exposing such functionality from the core/stdlib.
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Indeed it doesn't solve the current arguments for and against type
hinting. But its a good step in the right direction for a better way
to parse passed parameters from a library developer perspective.
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is a backslash which most people belive is a escape character in all
cases outside string interpolation.
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Just a ping on this one, with the 3.1.4 release would anyone be in
favour of moving it into trunk now? If not, then I can do it with some
help from someone who have moved a pecl extension into core before.
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thats yet another thing we should get settled soonish.
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of APC thats going beta soon is having
full support for the latest development branch (5.3.99).
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the other statements in this threads. So no
its not going to be removed.
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the
LastInsertId you recently did. For 5.3 its a possibility if Johannes
agrees on it, I looked at the commits and I think they would be fit
for 5.3.
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way I think it should get committed and APC moved into trunk,
we seem to have enough votes for this.
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, did it need
Windows support or any other things? If so then I dont see a reason
not to include it as it is now, as it will be improved anyway as we
are getting closer to a release.
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by default, atleast on Windows, like
GD is.
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better on Windows, and I think its well on its way getting there.
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a question of including APC in the core, but
rather a per extension discussion ;-)
What are your views on including APC in the core, or reasons not to?
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strongly consider removing the ext/mssql extension as
well, its not maintained, there is countless bugs, and its officially
not supported on Windows since 5.3, but it can however still be built
and used if you do it manually.
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on non-windows?
Not even ODBC?
There still is pdo_mssql/pdo_dblib
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Tutorials and articles that builds on mysql is unfortunate when we
want to prommote mysqli, but if we want to change it, i think now is
better than never, because people will continue to write articles
about it if its still exists within the main distro.
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[2] http://wiki.php.net/summits/pdmnotesmay09#php_6 (see point #13)
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2010/6/4 Tig tigger...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen ka...@php.net wrote:
So does this mean array-dereferencing was original declined but still
a possible for PHP 6?
That is how I'm reading it, but just want to make sure.
I belive its because when its been
it changes the values of the constants,
but it can be fixed by changing the checking code, or the dirty way to
increase the values so they don't conflict with the old ones.
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decide on a version number and see if we can get an
Alpha release out by Q4 this year if possible, since the current
releases of new development branches have been taking forever during
the last couple of years.
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which is wrong ;-)
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. As for the mergesort patch, is it used anywhere in PECL
or something? If not then I think we should remove it.
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to win32/build/config.w32
so that it gets built on Windows aswell.
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that short_open_tags except the PI
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these be added to this list? And I suppose session.bug_compat_warn
goes along with session.bug_compat_42.
Feel free to add them if they were listed as things that was supposed
to be removed in PHP6 on.
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safe_mode/register_globals/register_long_arrays/magic_quotes_*/allow_call_time_pass_reference
- Something we have long time been wanted to remove from PHP, I don't
see a big reason to keep those in the next version, even if its going
to be a 5.4
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2010/3/31 Philip Olson phi...@roshambo.org:
And while Rasmus may [or may not] deny his BDFL status, I'd love to see it in
high gear especially now that he's funemployed.
+1
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deprecated in
5.3 and removed in the old trunk? If thats the case then I will work
on merging those removed features like safe_mode and so on out.
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are
wanting a VC6 build
Thanks,
iamstever
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