On 2014-09-23 06:00, Sanford Whiteman wrote:
What would happen is it'd throw an E_DEPRECATED for at least the remainder
of 5.x, then throw the usual E_WARNING for a missing argument starting in
7.x with no default.
Sounds OK to me now that I've noticed this:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
On 2014-09-23 06:00, Sanford Whiteman wrote:
What would happen is it'd throw an E_DEPRECATED for at least the
remainder
of 5.x, then throw the usual E_WARNING for a missing argument starting
in
7.x with no default.
On 2014-09-23 09:30, Kris Craig wrote:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net
mailto:m...@php.net wrote:
On 2014-09-23 06:00, Sanford Whiteman wrote:
What would happen is it'd throw an E_DEPRECATED for at least the
remainder
of 5.x, then throw
I don't think you tracked the behavior in the bug report.
If checkdnsrr() is doing an MX query -- not including implicit MX,
only explicit MX -- it must fail when there is no MX record. It can't
return `true` when there is a CNAME (and no MX record for the
canonical hostname, only an A) but
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:38 AM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
On 2014-09-23 09:30, Kris Craig wrote:
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net
mailto:m...@php.net wrote:
On 2014-09-23 06:00, Sanford Whiteman wrote:
What would happen is it'd
On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Sanford Whiteman
figureone...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think you tracked the behavior in the bug report.
If checkdnsrr() is doing an MX query -- not including implicit MX,
only explicit MX -- it must fail when there is no MX record. It can't
return `true` when
if somehost.example.com has the MX, it should return true with
checkdnsrr('somehost.example.com'). If example has the MX set to
somehost.example.com or similar, it should return true as well. Or am
I missing your point?
You are missing it, as there are no MX records involved. I'm
On 2014-09-23 10:11, Sanford Whiteman wrote:
if somehost.example.com has the MX, it should return true with
checkdnsrr('somehost.example.com'). If example has the MX set to
somehost.example.com or similar, it should return true as well. Or am
I missing your point?
You are missing it, as
On 2014-09-23 10:47, Michael Wallner wrote:
On 2014-09-23 10:11, Sanford Whiteman wrote:
if somehost.example.com has the MX, it should return true with
checkdnsrr('somehost.example.com'). If example has the MX set to
somehost.example.com or similar, it should return true as well. Or am
I
Hi Mike,
So it could still be seen as works as expected, because it just checks if
any answer is received. If that functionality is useful could be debatable.
That's not expected. Chasing (dereferencing) CNAMEs is one of the
understood burdens of any DNS app; you can't treat the CNAME itself
hi Kris,
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
Per discussion in an earlier thread. Here's the RFC:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/checkdnsrr-default-type
Basically, this RFC seeks to make it so that PHP's checkdnsrr() function,
which is most commonly used to
On Sep 21, 2014 11:52 PM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
hi Kris,
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 4:15 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
Per discussion in an earlier thread. Here's the RFC:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/checkdnsrr-default-type
Basically, this RFC seeks to
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 21, 2014 11:52 PM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
Well, for what I can see users already take into account this part of
the issue then:
https://github.com/search?l=phpq=checkdnsrrtype=Codeutf8=%E2%9C%93
On Sep 22, 2014 1:09 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 21, 2014 11:52 PM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
Well, for what I can see users already take into account this part of
the issue then:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 22, 2014 1:09 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 21, 2014 11:52 PM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
Well, for
On Sep 22, 2014 2:16 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 22, 2014 1:09 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sep
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 22, 2014 2:16 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 22, 2014 1:09 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon,
Hi Kris,
On a broad level, your RFC asserts that checkdnsrr() is used to
determine whether or not a hostname exists, but you don't actually
define exists. It seems to me you're glossing over the fact that
existence is application-specific and doesn't add up to one single
RR type or set of types.
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Sanford Whiteman figureone...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi Kris,
On a broad level, your RFC asserts that checkdnsrr() is used to
determine whether or not a hostname exists, but you don't actually
define exists. It seems to me you're glossing over the fact that
What would happen is it'd throw an E_DEPRECATED for at least the remainder
of 5.x, then throw the usual E_WARNING for a missing argument starting in
7.x with no default.
Sounds OK to me now that I've noticed this:
https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=68081
Pretty sure that's a sane report,
I checked and it looks like E_WARNING is what we currently throw for that.
Should we consider changing that to E_ERROR? I mean, if a function
*requires* an argument that's missing, I don't think we'd want that script
execution to continue.
What's the reasoning behind the current behavior of just
On Sep 19, 2014 10:50 PM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
On 20 Sep 2014 04:15, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
From what I can tell, there are valid arguments to be made for both, so
I
would love to see some discussion/debate here regarding which solution
should be
Per discussion in an earlier thread. Here's the RFC:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/checkdnsrr-default-type
Basically, this RFC seeks to make it so that PHP's checkdnsrr() function,
which is most commonly used to see whether or not a hostname exists, no
longer restricts itself to only MX records by
On 20 Sep 2014 04:15, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
From what I can tell, there are valid arguments to be made for both, so I
would love to see some discussion/debate here regarding which solution
should be implemented, as I'm currently undecided. Also please feel free
to point
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